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theflyingorc posted:This Aleppo thing is getting a lot of traction, maybe it will help drive Johnson's numbers back down? You know, even if it does, it just emphasizes how loving ridiculous it is that Johnson can make a gaff and get nailed for it and Trump is immune.
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theflyingorc posted:This Aleppo thing is getting a lot of traction, maybe it will help drive Johnson's numbers back down? He already put out a statement he thought they meant a L.E.P.O. and didn't know what the acronym stood for and that's why he asked. I'm sure his supporters believe that since I'm willing to believe he's that dumb.
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ImpAtom posted:You know, even if it does, it just emphasizes how loving ridiculous it is that Johnson can make a gaff and get nailed for it and Trump is immune. I can sorta see it. Trump's remaining voters are the people who are voting for him no matter what gaffes he makes, whereas a pretty significant portion of Johnson supporters are Republicans who can't bring themselves to vote for Trump because of all the stupid poo poo he's said and see Johnson as "the adult in the room." So Trump's supporters won't hold him accountable for anything, but some Johnson supporters at least have standards.
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CommieGIR posted:Where was the good guys with a gun?! couldn't even make it to the next page before this stock ironicpost appeared
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CommieGIR posted:Where was the good guys with a gun?! We need to legalize open carry on school grounds.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Well, according to the New York Times, Aleppo is the "de-facto capital of the Islamic State" 
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ComradeCosmobot posted:We need to legalize open carry on school grounds. UT already has this.
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Uranium 235 posted:NYT changed it to "stronghold of the Islamic State" which is also totally wrong. ISIS does not hold any part of Aleppo--it is split between the Syrian regime and Syrian rebels. The Syrian regime holds territory between ISIS and Aleppo. hahahahahaha it's just straight up that 'it keeps happening' hella jeff comic
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Kulkasha posted:Is NYT run by loving idiots now? Now?
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A bit unusual this time of not being in a metro suburb but in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, west Texas.
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Lightning Knight posted:Anybody who would vote libertarian doesn't give a poo poo about something like this. Johnson's numbers will fall because almost nobody who says they're going to vote third party actually does. I disagree, I know some Johnson voters and people who say they're considering him, and a lot of them just kind of like him as an alternative with a few good policies and protest vote to two candidates they dislike. Negative exposure can hurt him, I think, and Gary Johnson isn't actually that good of a politician, he's kind of a space cadet.
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SpaceDrake posted:The thing that gets me, though, is that he's cozying up to a Russian dictator. Yeah you're just describing people who like authoritarianism man. Facts don't figure into it.
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In pro-Johnson spaces on the internet, I'm seeing "I'd rather vote for someone who can admit their deficiencies instead of bluffing about something" and "most people don't know what Aleppo is either, so can you really hold it against him?"
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Pakled posted:In pro-Johnson spaces on the internet, I'm seeing "I'd rather vote for someone who can admit their deficiencies instead of bluffing about something" and "most people don't know what Aleppo is either, so can you really hold it against him?" In fairness, he immediately did damage control admitting he screwed up, which is more than you can say for Donny.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:couldn't even make it to the next page before this stock ironicpost appeared  the joke is that Texas is actively pursuing right to carry on college campuses.
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Old James posted:Gonna give you a little slack since you admitted you were abysmal at geography, but a capitol is a building while a capital is a seat of government. Also, Damascus is the capital of Syria while Aleppo was a major stronghold of the non-Isis anti-Assaad forces. It was a thriving metropolis and has been almost obliterated. I admitted already that I'm a big dumb retard. Please have mercy. 
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Lightning Knight posted:I'm a little bit afraid how lovely the Presidency is going to be for Hillary. Not that, that should disqualify her or anything. But coming into the Presidency over the age of 55 sounds like an utter nightmare to me, let alone pushing 70. Obama came in as this doe-eyed idealist with delusions of Lincoln bringing the disparate sides together in honest debate and 70% approval ratings and promptly got his poo poo pushed in hard. There will be no such wishful thinking on Clinton's part. She will put her head down, figure out the fissues in the Republican party, exploit them to get what she wants by promising to work with even the most odious of Republicans to make them look good in a way she can stomach (maybe more funds for their district, jobs, whatever is near and dear to their black little hearts) so she can get what she wants (a vote for expanding family leave 'we both support families don't we?'; raising the minimum wage 'look, fully 65% of your constituency has a minimum wage job, some have more than one, you want people to spend time raising their kids make it so they only have to work one job, unemployment goes down and kids get more parent time, its win/win', whatever). And for this she will be excoriated on the left and right as she always has, and will just brush it off and go on her way, doing what good she can and working her rear end off to make the world a better place than she found it, not seeking accolades or tooting her own horn, because that is who she is and always has been.
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Night10194 posted:In fairness, he immediately did damage control admitting he screwed up, which is more than you can say for Donny.
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Lightning Knight posted:Exactly. I think Trump is immensely dangerous in what he represents - the hypothetical possibility that a vapid conman with no ideology and no interest in the public good could win an American election and obliterate the status quo in the worst way possible - but I don't think he personally should be taken seriously as some great threat to us. He's not trying to win and he's not in it to become President. Does that mean we shouldn't work really hard to get Hillary elected? No, of course not. But everyone trying to ascribe some kind of meaningful motivations, policies, or ideals to him is just going to end up confused and scared because Trump isn't about that poo poo. He's in it for the money, the fame, and the potential for more money and fame down the line. He absolutely, sincerely, does not like black people (but he likes blacks he can order around of course). He absolutely, sincerely, does not like women that can challenge him (just ask the women that have worked for him, the most pro-Trump ones somehow being the most damning). He absolutely, sincerely, believes in the tough guy mythos that led to Attica and the invasion of Iraq. This includes keeping up the war on inner cities commonly known as the War on Drugs. He absolutely, sincerely, believes in creating a tax structure advantageous to billionaires like himself. He hones in like nothing else in keeping tax credits advantageous to land developers for example. He absoultely, sincerely, believes in bilking people poorer than himself for pennies to a billionaires dollar. This can be ascertained by everything he's done.
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Is the day after this event too early to see any potential bounce back in polls for Hillary? Noticed she was ~2% back up on five thirty eight about after about a month of slow decline.
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Svanja posted:GODDAMMIT. Almost forgot its the first day of classes, and therefore the beginning of school shooting season.
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Shageletic posted:He absolutely, sincerely, does not like black people (but he likes blacks he can order around of course). I 100% agree. But I also think that trying to ascribe meaningful policy to Trump based on what he believes is pointless. He might personally agree with some or even all of the stupid poo poo he says. But even if he doesn't (and I don't think he does; that is not that same as him being a secretly good person, which he is not), he's willing to say that he does in order to get what he wants. That's what I was trying to get across, to people who don't understand why he seems to make no sense. Trump's one and only policy is, whatever you want to hear, that gets me money and attention.
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Dork457 posted:Is the day after this event too early to see any potential bounce back in polls for Hillary? Noticed she was ~2% back up on five thirty eight about after about a month of slow decline. yes, that should be related to something else
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Lightning Knight posted:I 100% agree. But I also think that trying to ascribe meaningful policy to Trump based on what he believes is pointless. He might personally agree with some or even all of the stupid poo poo he says. But even if he doesn't (and I don't think he does; that is not that same as him being a secretly good person, which he is not), he's willing to say that he does in order to get what he wants. That's what I was trying to get across, to people who don't understand why he seems to make no sense. Trump's one and only policy is, whatever you want to hear, that gets me money and attention. I'd ascribe it to pathological incuriousness and debilitating entitilement. George W had the former down pat.
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emdash posted:yes, that should be related to something else Its about a week after Trump went full Hitler in Arizona, so polls might be picking that up.
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The right likes Putin because he's a big manly white conservative Christian man who likes to blow things up and shits on Obama and Hillary, it's not complicated. It doesn't cross their minds as unpatriotic to support him over their own nation because in their minds the leaders of their own nation are all evil internationalists who have no allegiance to whitemanistan uh I mean America so the duty of a proper patriot is to oppose them.
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The Glumslinger posted:Its about a week after Trump went full Hitler in Arizona, so polls might be picking that up. Considering he started doing better when he started 'softening' on Immigration, I would hope deciding to go Full Hitler and pull the rug away pretty definitively would hurt him.
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canepazzo posted:Meanwhile, Johnson on Morning Joe: Now's the perfect time to ask him about the situation in Agrabah.
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ImpAtom posted:You know, even if it does, it just emphasizes how loving ridiculous it is that Johnson can make a gaff and get nailed for it and Trump is immune. You see Johnson's problem is that he admitted a weakness by asking what Aleppo was. If he had just started bullshitting "Well it's a very serious problem and we'll have to look closely in the coming days next question." he would have been fine. A stream of verbal diarrhea gets you a few funny looks, being weak is punishable by death. 7c Nickel fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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CelestialScribe posted:Once again, it doesn't matter what was said: Trump gave a better performance, and nothing else matters. He will continue to rise in the polls as a result of this.  or  Edit- 123 != 133. woops. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Sep 8, 2016 |
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