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theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
IIRC, Italian Pan-nats are different because they don't care about having a GP and will give it to Sardinia Piedmont even if an Italian cultured GP exists. I've had that happen to me as the Papal States once.

Edit: Missed the section on Garibaldi's Redshirts.

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theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

WhitemageofDOOM posted:

gently caress Uber Britain, Uber Britain makes the game unfun and it's impossible to peacefully beat them(which you know, Britain ~was~ peacefully surpassed historically.), i have a save day 2 that is Britain with every nation it can spin off except Scotland spun off.

I've seen the US do it a few times, but that's typically due to China Civilizing and the massive tide of Chinese people moving across the pacific that causes.

Civilized India is about as game breaking as civilized China, but that requires fighting Britain and taking all of those states is hyper tedious.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Patter Song posted:

Played the next update.

I'm going to have a vote in which I beg you guys to reverse the revolution policy. I expect you'll do the right thing.

Please tell me it's German Pan Nationalists

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

A1

Yeah, those events can be killer if you're taking out loans, but they're also kinda bugged. Basically they can get you to default even if you could loan the amount to cover it. Usually reload when that happens just because it's so crippling.

I've had the bankruptcy fire when I was paying off my loans using the pay loans button and the money to pay back in full.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
C-3

Hungary would just cause us problems if it is whole

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Xenoborg posted:

I'm pretty sure releases getting all your tech and all inventions related to them is hard coded. What should work though:
1) Make a new save just before release
2) Use "provid" in console and get the ID of your capital
3) Edit your save file, search for "capital=XXX" to find the SGF contry section.
4) Remove whatever you want from the technologies section.
5) I don't think you need to remove anything from the active_inventions section.
6) Release, and edit your technologies back.
You could also use human=yes to find yourself.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Patter Song posted:

It really was. If I were Wiz I'd probably have overturned that. It wasn't a great move in real life, it was even less so in a world where Italy formed (with Lombardy!) with no need for French assistance and with Austria crumbling at the seams.

One almost suspects that Cavour did it just to spite Garibaldi.

EDIT: Fun fact. For a while a few months ago I was considering changing my avatar to a picture of Count Cavour (Mainly because I find his "Victorian Gabe Newell" look amazing). I decided against it, but in retrospect I wish I had because it would've made this update even better.
That decision is just stupid to take in V2, almost as stupid as Forming the SGF as Austria.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
In my Austria-Germany game the Hungarians all assimilated to Germans. The only states I had that wasn't 80-90 German minimum were Venice and Lombardia. Ahhh old Vicky 2

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Patter Song posted:

Yes. As of AHD they stopped doing that.
That was a really good decision because it was hilariously stupid.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
We are going to need to pick all sorts of fights to be Germany and get pretty borders.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Patter Song posted:

We'd look like a dislocated jaw trying to bite Russia. That's not pretty at all. No, I don't think we have any more territorial ambitions in Europe.

That's why we'd need to conquer Krakow and Russian Poland. Which is why I said we would need to pick a ton of fights. Not forming Germany seems like an elegant solution to those problems I will admit.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

TheMcD posted:

We're not forming Germany, I think that has been established, but if we were gunning for that, we'd need the NGF out of GP status so we could sphere them and we'd need to beat up France for Elsaß-Lothringen, and that should be it.

But then we need to eat Krakow and Russian Poland because our borders would be hideous and that's a ton of infamy

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

TheMcD posted:

So essentially, it's WAD, and the D is broken in and of itself.

I really wish rebels could just declare independence if they spend like a year occupying an area.

I will never understand why communists/reactionaries/anarcho-liberals/ect. won't declare indepence if they've been holding on to some corner of your nation for years and there is another core on it that isn't your union group/an existing nation.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
This time Berlin needs to be brought to heel and learn it's rightful place in Europe.

EDIT: I really hate India's monarchist flag.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
If it were me I'd just be like gently caress you NGF, :getin:, but most people are more patient than me.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
So who wants to volunteer to be the guy in parliament who ends every speech with "Also, Berlin must be destroyed"

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
DC.

Berlin delenda est

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
V2 has problems with not having tags in places where there should be tags.

The Levant is really, really bad about this, with cores for wrong culture Ottoman Empire and wrong culture Egypt being the only ones present in Vanilla

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

JT Jag posted:

The Danubian Federation LP basically went Max Ron Paul If Ron Paul Was Also A Crazy Military Nutjob, and they did well for themselves.
Except that's Darkest Hour, where instead of leaving idiot capitalists in charge of everything, the Invisible hand of the Free Market makes everything build at superspeed.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Soylent Pudding posted:

LF doesn't suck as westernized China. I mean it probably still sucks but micromanaging your industry is very tedious and you're so ridiculously powerful anyway it doesn't really matter.

The AI can do industrialization with enough Craftsmen, usually due to enormous populations, but anyone who lacks pops will fail under LF.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Poor India can never catch a break.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Having the Wolf of the Steppes in our sphere would be a coup. No one would dare challenge us but those crazy North Germans! A!

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Blackunknown posted:

It's the devil to whatever the god of pretty borders is. It is painful for me to look at it. I vote to play as China-Greece.

We must play as the glourious land of Land

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Where is Secret Denmark available? Googling Victoria Secret Denmark surprisingly doesn't come up with the mod. Who would have thought?

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
That reminded me that I really wish there was a button I could press to automatically upgrade all of my Naval Bases.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

TheMcD posted:

USA is kind of wonky since HoD. Sometimes they'll land in Hedjaz because their ally called them into a colonial war, but sometimes they won't bother landing in France, even though that's a much more feasible goal.

The USA was a massive pain in the butt in any game I played around Arabia because they always Sphered Egypt and prevented me from taking anything.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Akratic Method posted:

That was a hell of an update. I can see why you picked "war crimes trial" for the update theme: those were some brutal slaughters with an absolute wreckage of countries left behind. I'm kinda surprised that the UK and USA are still ahead on the GP list, though! What's the deal with the industry score--how come the UK has such an insanely high one?


What is that second one, Soviet Lebanon?

New England

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
It's kind of a shame that if you can form Babylon you are probably capable of forming Arabia and better off doing that.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
I just imagine Heligoland as being a massive series of expansions to the island, like a steampunk floating city.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
When I was playing a Divergences game as Austria-Germany Bohemia had a colony in Libya that became populated almost entirely by Czechs and North Germans after I conquered all of their continental territory.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Is there a reason I'm missing Restoration of order CBs as Austria in Secret Denmark or is my copy of everything messed up?

EDIT: Figured it out. I didn't realize Venice had the Greek Islands

theblastizard fucked around with this message at 13:05 on May 10, 2014

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

BBJoey posted:

So why do all the weird nations have logical adjectives? For example, The Kingdom of has the adjective "Kingsmen" which makes sense, but who the hell actually programmed that in?

Paradox created all of those so you could release nations that didn't have cores on them, primarily for Africa, so you could release for example the Kingdom of North Cameroon

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
I played a game as Austria and I didn't realize that I could have sphered all the German cultured nations in bizarre places to annex them when I formed Germany. Although Hamburg is the only one that's conveniently placed.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

WeaponGradeSadness posted:

The only time I've played an entire Paradox game from start to finish was as Persia in Victoria 2, so I'm real interested to see just how much you'll outclass me at it :p

I've also never played a game from 1861 before except for a brief test to see if the Civil War was winnable as the Confederates which I quit as soon as I found out (yes, it is), so I'd like to see that start date too, see how much it changes everything.

Vicky 2 is the only Paradox game I ever actually play all the way through.

Although I've never gotten Persia to work out the way I want it to.

And the Civil war is totally winnable, it's just that the Union will constantly declare war on you forever.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
I had a PDM game as Japan where the OE was able to hold strong and even start pulling chunks of Egypt off of it after Britain had it in it's Sphere.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Technowolf posted:

The Papal States is a reactionary presidential dictatorship rather than, you know, a theocracy. It probably got hit hard by reactionary rebels or something like that.

Although V2 abstracts them to an Absolute Monarchy in their normal state because V2 doesn't have Theocracy as a government.

Normally though any revolution should change their name to Roman Republic.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

Zeron posted:

Actually, rather than Persia I'd really like to see an attempt at creating Arabia. Granted that's probably not great for a 1861 start but Persia is just so...easy.

I've never played much with Persia, but I have no idea how to get them to be above like a 6th ranked power. The population just doesn't seem to be there.

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Speaking of Divergences and whacky gov type/nation name combinations,

theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009
Now I want to play V2 as South Africa and paint the continent orange.

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theblastizard
Nov 5, 2009

RowansWarden posted:

I had a really fun game once as Hawaii, back before any of the expansions. You start as a tiny island with almost nothing going for you except for one of the most literate populations on earth. After save scumming to get around American auto-annexation, overrecruiting of generals, and unreasonable production of capital ships, I managed to claw my way up to secondary power and colonize most of Oceania and, at the very end, Korea. Pretty fun game. It might be worth seeing if you can do anything with it nowadays.

I had a game as Hawaii where I was a hyper socialist Absolute Monarchy where the flood of immigrants from China caused the population of Honolulu to rival New York.

Also as soon as I civilized I took over Iceland and Greenland from Denmark

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