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Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

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Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

I'm assuming the league was confident this wouldn't come out until the season started and figured by that point it would blow over quickly because football and sadly, I'd be shocked if they don't turn out to be right.

Props to John Harbaugh though. To end up looking like the biggest rear end in a top hat in a family that includes Jim Harbaugh is impressive.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Kull the Conqueror posted:

All true, but Donald Sterling was also always awful and a damning piece of media can work wonders on public opinion/discourse.

The players drove that. If it weren't for their stance the league wouldn't have done a drat thing. I don't see the NFL players doing that type of thing here.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Colin Cowherd says and does dumb poo poo for exactly the reaction you fuckers give every single time.

I don't understand why more people cannot see this.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Chokes McGee posted:

This. There are people who will buy the line about "She hit him first," roll their eyes, and write it off as a "truth in the middle" situation. Showing that she was not only defending herself from the first punch but was knocked out by a second leaves no ambiguity, however small, of how hosed up this is.

The problem is that it's going to have to hit the wallet before anything more happens. People might be more outraged but until there's an internal movement or fans revolt in great enough numbers to harm the product (spoiler, this will never happen), there's not going to be a whole lot more than what's already been done.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Chokes McGee posted:

You'd be surprised. That's twice now Goodell has been hit in the face with his own stupidity (replacement refs, the original Rice incident) and, after a couple of weeks of intense negative press, had to walk back or surrender on his position.

I seriously think this is going to cost Goodell his job. Maybe not right away, but the furor will get to a point where the owners feel seriously threatened that sales are going to go south and will send him to the guillotine to save face.


If the players really want him gone, now is the perfect time to pounce.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

wilderthanmild posted:

The thing that really stands out about the video is that he was clearly waiting for the doors to close. It makes it feel like he was planning it and has done this before.

LeCharles Bentley was going all in about this on Twitter. Said it looked like he definitely knew he was going to do it.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

I hope they follow Lewis' comments with the C'Mon Man segment

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Everybody on Earth knows that casinos have elevator cameras. I wouldn't be surprised if the NFL purposely never asked for the tape from inside the elevator knowing full well what it would show so they could maintain plausible deniability.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

By Thursday afternoon Ray Rice will be a Seahawk

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

windshipper posted:

No I'm pretty sure that was just a dumbass equating PEDs or a DUI to literally beating your wife.

Lol no they just seem to claim everyone

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Abel Wingnut posted:

This seems to be causing a much bigger stir than Roethlisberger's rape incidents, Lewis's murder escapade, Miguel Cabrera's beatings, countless DUI. Why? Is it solely because of the videos?

It's a lot easier to go all in when there's video proof.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Teddybear posted:

Guys. I think we're nearly there. The NFL is now rapidly approaching being as corrupt and lovely as FIFA. Soon, American football and association football will join hand in hand, exploiting the young and turning a blind eye to hideous violence together.

Ah, young love.

Lol no. I mean, gently caress the NFL here, but no.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

All of the cumulative blood on the NFL's hands is equal to like a good month for FIFA.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Olbermann owns so loving hard

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Whirlwind Jones posted:

Schefty and Mort going off on the NFL front office on NFL Live right now. Really surprised ESPN isn't reeling in the dogs a little bit on this one, considering their relationship with The Shield.

Turn to espn2 because Keith Olbermann is loving eviscerating everyone

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Hahaha so Bisciotti's cool with his daughter being casually dragged out of an elevator and kicked out of the way of the door but this....this is just too much

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Ray Lewis seems to want to defend the guy but knows he can't. He also appears to have a pint of shoe polish on the back of his head

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Would bet anything Mort has been told to tow the company line to counter Schefter.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

It's a loving casino elevator. The whole goddamn world knows there's a camera in there. Even if your request for the tape was denied, you keep loving asking for it. On the off chance the league really DIDN'T see it, it's only because they really didn't want to.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The Puppy Bowl posted:

Yeah, Rice is getting hosed over. If the NFL thinks a domestic assault charge is worth expuslion from the league there should be about 50 other players out are there asses come Friday. The first of whom should be Terrell Suggs. There won't be. It's hypocritical bullshit.

There is a video of him committing the crime. I get that there are a bunch of situations where what happened is obvious, but obvious and literal video evidence are two completely different beasts, for better or worse.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Goodell saved the video on iCloud

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Abel Wingnut posted:

Wouldn't they just replace him with another morally-bankrupt, financially-minded empty suit? Isn't the problem with the NFL one more of culture and the fact the NFL doesn't have to answer to anyone and completely disregard consequences outside of bad PR?

The nature of the position is such that, yes, you will get a money-first, empty suit. But Goodell takes poo poo to a whole new level, imo.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The Harbaughs are obviously lovely parents because their two sons are loving dickheads and their daughter chose Tom Crean to spend the duration of her life with.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

nachos posted:

That's what the bad apple argument is for though. It's easy to throw the book at him and show how good you are at rooting out the bad actors and gain positive press for it.

the problem is that it's not one bad apple and they know that people know that

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Vire posted:

You do realize he was going to get that even if he wasn't a racist piece of poo poo and that joining the kkk would not give you any more money than just selling the team? A lot of people close to the situation pretty much said that having his team taken from him was going to make him miserable. Thats probably the best punishment you could give the guy.

yea the money either way is really pointless to Sterling. They hit him hard in the ego and that's what really talks with shitbags like him.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Mahoning posted:

So who is the odds on favorite to get fined for writing some dumb thing like Ray Rice's initials on his shoes during Sunday's game in solidarity with that shitbag.

has to be Terrell Suggs, right?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

/r/TheFootballFunhouse

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Grittybeard posted:

From that deadspin thing


This seems...like a really dumb way to run things. I'm guessing the idea behind it is NJSP handles all casino policing and the ACPD is responsible for other stuff, but this seems like a huge pain in the rear end for whatever regular old crime happens there.

the elevators are probably considered part of the hotel and not part of gaming

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Lol whoever was sent that video better have hard evidence they passed it to Roger, otherwise they're getting railroaded so goddamn hard.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

The Goodell family history is not strong when it comes to relying on rich old white men for job security.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

African AIDS cum posted:

Make Goodell in street clothes go over the middle against Meriwhether and that guy on the Texans, can't think of his name, with Peyton Manning throwing hospital balls, for a few hours

Swearinger

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Burger Trench posted:

I think it's really just a matter of:

1. Roger's priorities are hosed up and he doesn't, intrinsically as a person, see domestic violence as negatively as he should.

2. There were no charges filed.

3. He's given similarly light sentences (or no sentences at all) for similar cases and there was no real public backlash.

In fact, without the juxtaposition of the year-long Gordon ban, I wonder if the two-game suspension would have been much of a public issue at all.

Roger pretty clearly sees anything that's not related to getting money for the owners as a nuisance and just hand waves it as best possible while still trying to look like he's doing his job.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Chris James 2 posted:

Rockefeller's getting members together to do a Senate hearing on this.

@ArmandoSalguero
Sen. Rockefeller is retiring so this should not be portrayed as stunt to win votes. Think more way of going out on high note, source says.
If Sen. Rockefeller finds traction for NFL hearings among members, announcement could come within days.

His uncle appointed Goodell's dad to the US Senate, right?

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Retail Slave posted:

I know someone posted it from a twitter user before, but has anyone on ESPN or SI made the "ignorance is no excuse" argument to Goodell that he used on Sean Payton?

I believe it was Trey Wingo that first brought this to light earlier today

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Grittybeard posted:

Old news but I still can't believe Mayweather decided to chime in. Like...most of me just wonders why bother because everyone who cares already hates you (or loves you) at this point Floyd, you're not selling any more tickets with that take from an admitted abuser--ok, sort of admitted and damned near undoubtedly true either way.

On the other hand you might as well go whole hog because it isn't like boxing can get any more evil at this point.

He has a fight on Saturday and he makes his money by making people want to see him get his rear end beat.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

Burger Trench posted:

Well I mean I obviously can't do poo poo complaining on an Internet forum, but the columnists on ESPN and SI calling for Goodell's resignation should make it clear that Mara and Kraft are every bit as culpable if they keep supporting Goodell.

lol none of these rich white male owners give a flying gently caress about an SI or ESPN column assigned for the primary purpose of generating clicks

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Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

DangerKat posted:

It's less about the column and more about the mouthpieces they utilize to both promote their sport and leverage to gloss over unpleasant issues, like a player knocking his wife unconscious. It's not a good sign for the league to have ESPN teeing off on this daily if what it leads to league sponsors threatening to remove their support. That's ultimately the only thing that will force their hand.

The thing with ESPN is that the public has to reach that level on their own for ESPN to even start entertaining the idea of teeing off on the NFL daily, so at the point at which ESPN does it, it's usually nothing more than them jumping on the pile.

I agree that the sponsors drive the ship, but at the end of the day, the fans drive the sponsors and if tonight does a huge number despite the Baltimore Ravens being involved, nobody is going to give a poo poo. Sponsors aren't going to sever ties on something that draws as many eyeballs as the NFL until those eyeballs start looking elsewhere.

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