Ray Rice may have just punched Roger Goodell out of a job

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Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

It still really fucks with me that during the ESPN round table Ray Lewis was the voice of reson

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:28

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 09:25

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Bigass Moth posted:

They almost certainly coached him in what to say due to his history and being a Raven.

Yeah but they had another guy who said that it was unfair to punish him and they should wait until all the evidence was in and this was a guy with a pending domestic abuse charge so its not like ESPN was on "don't say terrible poo poo" alert

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:32

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Saying you are praying they can make it work is literally the most loving horrible response you can have to this jesus christ

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:40

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Jim Harbaugh is now the more likable Harbuagh

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:41

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Hell the poster Jim Harbaugh is more likable right now

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:42

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Bigass Moth posted:

It's troubling that they aren't trying to get her help (whether she claims to want it or not) and instead are focusing on fixing the marriage god bless the bible bullshit.

Marriage is a sacred union between a man's fist and a woman's jaw

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:43

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

armoredgorilla posted:

Non-Baltimore viewers, please note that Gerry Sandusky is NOT Jerry Sandusky.

And yet it would make sense if it was

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:46

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

seriously guys don't punch women god bless

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:51

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Codependent Poster posted:

Both the Harbaughs are scum. Jim's letting Ray McDonald play, after letting Aldon Smith play two days after being so blackout drunk driving that he hit a tree and still had his foot on the pedal.

Man every time an NFL player comes out as terrible it makes me feel better about the lifelong traumatic brain injury thing

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 00:59

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

football fuckerman posted:

Mel Hottaker

Man I can deal with some people being thinking that is a real post but I expected better from you dude

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:11

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

football fuckerman posted:

yeah i know, but you still wish they could have the best possible life, which to me would include leaving, so it sucks to see that's not what happens sometimes

The biggest problem are all the people acting as if this is something that can be "fixed". One of the most common reasons women stay in abusive relationships is because they believe their husband is sick and be cured and that they just need someone who will love and stay with them.

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:14

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

You are probably also missing the depressing fact that the NFL has a sizeable part of their fanbase that doesn't care about Ray Rice or even supports him

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:19

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Basically what I am saying is imagine every fan you've ever seen call a heavily concussed player a pussy and imagine how he probably treats the women in his life

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:22

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Chris James 2 posted:

Why are we fighting amongst each other when we're amidst the last months of the Goodell Era

We should be celebrating

because I fear who might replace him

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:24

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Chris James 2 posted:

JFF (Joe loving Flacco) pulls off his helmet, rips off his uniform to reveal a suit with a gummy bear bow tie, and takes his rightful throne

This would be cool tho

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:30

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

haljordan posted:

I still fail to see how Donald Sterling getting $2 billion for the loving Clippers counts as a punishment.

When you're that rich money doesn't matter, prestige does

He's already a billionaire, but he is no longer and owner and is hated by literally everyone

Plus his wife is gonna get all that money anyways

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 01:34

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

FAT SLAMPIG posted:

Bring in Condi Rice. Seriously. I'm 100% for it now. 110% if she's cool with touchdown dances.

I think we could all deal with the occasional spousal abuse if they could dunk on the goalpost again

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 02:10

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

When I was a kid I thought NFL teams were owned by the city government and I still kinda think that should happen

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 02:45

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

tbp posted:

Why?

All the money earned goes back into the city's infrastructure and so the fan base sees tangible benefits from their support?

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 03:00

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

tbp posted:

The fan base could always start their own football league if they'd like.

So you don't have an actual opinion and just want to be a disagreeable prick ok cool

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 03:03

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

tbp posted:

If fans weren't okay with this I don't think they'd be attending games in such high numbers though

Holy poo poo look at this post

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 03:09

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Probably Magic posted:

So what did Ray Rice actually tell the team then?

Apparently he was #completelyhonest and #remorseful

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 04:01

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

haljordan posted:

Men come out ahead on the whole double standard thing so loving often you'd think "Don't ever put your hands on a woman for any reason" would be an acceptable compromise. But I guess not.

CM Punk had a great response to when someone said "What if the woman is hitting you?"

He was just like "I would leave"

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 04:13

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

what did Suggs do that everyone hates him for?

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 05:00

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Uh, beats up his wife and pours bleach on his kids?

hhaha seriously how did I miss this?

# ¿ Sep 9, 2014 05:02

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

C. Everett Koop posted:

Anxiously awaiting Olbermann demanding that Roger Goodell light himself on fire today.

Its kinda funny seeing Olbermann going all W Bush on Goodell

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 16:32

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

euphronius posted:

Silver got rid of a racist owner once it had been a PR nightmare.

And what would you call this?

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 16:35

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Maybe I am too optimistic but I really feel like, especially in our current social climate, the idea that this will "blow over" is a little too cynical for me.

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 16:41

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

You know in wacky comedies when they went to show there is chaos at a place and there is always a guy in a suit running around the in the background on fire?

That guy is at NFL headquarters today

# ¿ Sep 11, 2014 21:10

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

I don't have any guilt about watching football because I do not see football players as human beings hth

# ¿ Sep 12, 2014 16:18

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Dexo posted:

If she wants to stay with Ray, then she should be able to stay with Ray without people jumping on her and insulting her. Maybe he'll do it again, and she'll regret it later, or maybe Ray realizes that he hosed up and lost control, and this was a one time thing. But please try not to insult the victim for trying to continue on and salvage/repair a damaged relationship.

You're right, insulting a victim of domestic violence is hosed up. But there is no "cure" for this kind of abuse, and there is no "maybe this was a one time thing."

She needs to get the gently caress out of that relationship and the idea that the whole thing can be "salvaged" is hosed up. Women need to leave abusive relationships and given the support and encouragement necessary to do so.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2014 01:04

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Kim Jong Il posted:

The average relationship with domestic violence being like that isn't proof that every relationship is like that. She has repeatedly said that this was a one time thing, and it's god damned patronizing to throw someone into a situation where they literally can never redeem themselves in the very small minority of cases that don't fit in the norm.

Perhaps you missed the part where he closed fist punched his wife in the face, knocked her out against a wall, and dragged her unconscious body around.

People don't "just" do that sometimes. The very fact that it could happen at all is the problem itself.

Also, no, most human beings would not leave. Its the nature of abusive relationships, the abused partners sense of intimacy and loyalty to their partner means they often don't leave. Abusive relationships are very very complicated and it is absolutely not in our place to judge her for her decisions. But, this is not going to be a one-time thing. Abuse doesn't just happen. It will not get better.

# ¿ Nov 30, 2014 04:16

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Kim Jong Il posted:

That just as easily fits the hypothesis that he was ridiculously drunk.

Oh gently caress off

# ¿ Nov 30, 2014 07:37

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Kim Jong Il posted:

There's a difference between saying "X might have caused Y" and "I approve of X." People who do insanely, unspeakably stupid things while drunk is a minority but unfortunately is not an unknown phenomenon.

You can keep digging that hole dude but it ain't gonna lead to China

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 04:23

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

So basically the argument is that as long as I am sorry afterwards I get one official mulligan if I ever want to punch my girlfriend in the face

Good to know

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 15:14

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

That Works posted:

No you see each successive poster in this thread has to be more outraged about the issue than the last.

heh look at these plebes who are upset about domestic violence and attempts to defend the abuser's behavior. Not me though. I am too cool and chill to get upset about things.

*puts on sunglasses, revs shitcycle*

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 15:54

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

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Mister Fister posted:

It's almost like there's more nuance to some situations and statements like 'attempts to defend the abuser's behavior' makes you look dumb.

I mean, if we found out that Ray Rice is the Bill Cosby of abuse, then have at it, but at this stage, you're basically saying that Ray Rice cannot rehabilitate himself and he can't live in an abuse free relationship with his wife.

Tell you what.

Find a single trained domestic abuse professional that will go on record saying "Sometimes violence is a one time thing and you should stay with the guy while he tries to work through it" and I will shut up.

One, find one.

Go.

Mel Mudkiper fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Dec 1, 2014

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 16:02

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Mister Fister posted:

Your feelings are dumb though.

Buddy not to flame war but you just unironically dropped SJW into a conversation so maybe we have reached a cognitive impasse

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 16:06

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 09:25

Mel Mudkiper: Jan 19, 2012; At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

Mister Fister posted:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/domestic-abusers-can-reform-studies-show-1410822557

quote:

A major factor in most of these men's motivation is their desire to save their relationship, says Barbara Gilin, a licensed clinical social worker and associate clinical professor for social work education at Widener University in Chester, Pa., who has worked with intimate-partner violence victims and their abusers for 35 years.

"The longer the women can hold out not living with the partner, the more motivated the partner is to change, she says. "They are so afraid they will lose their woman."

Still though, fair enough.

I am not trying to deny that Ray Rice can change. What bothers me is the idea that she should stay around and feel socially or religiously pressured to do so. Women die every year from that, and I worry about the message it sends when a woman in a high profile abuse case "stays with her man" when the consequences of it have been apparent in many different situations.

But hey I am an SJW hugbox or whatever.

# ¿ Dec 1, 2014 16:21

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