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Did not think that would be the flip. No clue who is Scum now. Who it is should prob earn win, they have done well. kordansk, which choice is best?
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 00:04 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 08:13 |
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I should be the next lynch, prob not wise to have me at LYLO. Am just Adventurer, and was wrong back in days ago, post weird, vote wrong, am sad. No clue who is Scum now, blind luck. Not TNL, not kordansk. Rarity seems true? Quid claims Doc but may be lie? BHB still seems Scum. MMT not 3p? KK God Dad? TMM bad vig, not post like he tends to? No clue.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 00:11 |
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Sad for KB, could not let him off, just cause he is good and can lie well. Thought he was a real caught Scum who play hard and not give up.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 00:17 |
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kordansk posted:I'm thinking we should stand and fight. The message implied that our supplies were dwindling and might not last long.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 01:25 |
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I'm Town, but there is room to be wrong I think. I think MMT is the best lynch. Will not cry if I go. Quid looks def Town now, for TMM case, but why not save TNL? Oh, but true, KK, Quid, kordansk are all Town since God Dad flip. Rarity looks good for the read one more time posts. MMT look BAD for 3p claim now, counter claim SK good for Scum, and be safe from Cop, like Miller claim, have to lynch by LYLO. BHB less bad than MMT. ##vote Murmur Twin
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 15:37 |
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Have BHB or Rarity made any claim? 8 alive, 5 to lynch. MMT, Lumpen, BHB, Rarity in doubt. Quid, kord, KK confirmed. If MMT is true Survivor, this will prob come down to kordansk choice of BHB or Rarity.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 15:57 |
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Barehanded Brother posted:Looks like I owe Quid an apology. I'm still pretty sure it's Lumpen, but if I'm wrong and we turbo, that's probably a bad thing.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:15 |
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If Rarity is Scum, she earns win. I think shes Town. kordansk will do right and kill BHB at end, if MMT is 3p. I prob need to die now to stop Scum from bring me to LYLO as bait. ##vote Lumpen It is ok. I am fine. Bye bye. Do good at end kordansk.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:19 |
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Barehanded Brother posted:Isn't it 7 and 4? No gambit, right move. I die now, I win with Town. I go to LYLO I am bad bait and Town lose. Too bad for me, push wrong guy last day, and some days past. Like KB.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:36 |
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Like KB did.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:38 |
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Ugh, that might be right. BHB might be Town. Do not put me at LYLO any way. Also have to take out MMT. I did not read Rarity one more time, just BHB. Will go look too, can help when i have flip
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:51 |
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Barehanded Brother posted:The flavor makes it sound like the game mechanics did.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:53 |
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I must go now for bad reads and votes, not bad post style.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 16:54 |
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BHB was in range to end day, but chose to call gambit, could have put down last vote and not gave much heat for it, if he took fake stance of feel sure. WIFOM, but still.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 17:00 |
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Rarity posted:Well I'll be damned.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 17:02 |
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Rarity posted:Quid/KK, do either of you guys know what BHB's meta is like? I've only played with him a couple of times and it was when I was a fresh faced newbie so I don't have a sense of him as a player. He is good, can win as Scum. Sneak and fake well. Not weak.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:02 |
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Rarity posted:Your name isn't Quid or KK!
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:03 |
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kordansk posted:Good, that's where I'm at too. I have hard time to pick Rarity or BHB for Scum. Real real close call. If MMT told truth, then MMT must go before LYLO too. So that's my first pick if not me, then see who dies at night. I still need toread Rarity one more time, will do right now.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:34 |
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Murmur Twin posted:Like all of them mentioned that Lumpen might be scum there but none of them made a concerted effort to get him voted out - to my recollection that was mostly me and KB. Don't you guys think that if Lumpen was town, the scumteam would have tried harder?
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:41 |
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Barehanded Brother posted:I'm rereading Rarity and one thing I completely forgot (and others may have too) is that Jimson tracked her N1 and she didn't go anywhere, so if she's scum, either she's a ninja or didn't do the NK. I'm guessing they'd have hung on to the juggernaut kill and the roleblocker would have roleblocked, so the question is would you have the godfather do the N1 kill or a vanilla goon?
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:45 |
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Other chance is MMT told lie, is not 3p, just claim to get cred for BK lynch and in case of Cop catch. BHB and Rarity both look more Town right now than MMT. So if 3p or Scum, my first pick if not me.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 18:58 |
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Murmur Twin posted:You're more than welcome to go over my body of cases and explain why your rationale for voting for me first just switched from "threat at LYLO" to "might be lying about her role".
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 19:04 |
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Lumpen posted:MMT look BAD for 3p claim now, counter claim SK good for Scum, and be safe from Cop, like Miller claim, have to lynch by LYLO.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 19:06 |
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Rarity posted:Well yeah, the game is essentially solved at this point. It's either you or Lumpen and barring some kind of CYOA madness we've got enough time to lynch both of you. That kinda takes the drive away cause I don't really need to work at it to find the last scum. It would be nice to get MT a win as well cause she's been one of our best scum hunters but it's not essential. It's weird to me that you don't feel the same way.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 20:01 |
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Quidnose posted:Lumpen, MMT claimed Survivor during N1, so there's only two options I see here that would make her scum: I guess Rarity is top Scum pick for me right now.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:00 |
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Yeah just did read Rarity one more time, and can't see why I had thought her so Town. I feel much more sure than BHB or MMT now. ##vote Rarity
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:08 |
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Rarity posted:I guess at this point it's not the end of the world if we just lynch all of me/BHB/Lumpen. MT would go into LYLO already knowing who's town and who's scum and at this point I have faith she'd rather win with town. Don't trust that "plan" one bit.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:09 |
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Rarity posted:I swear, this happens every loving endgame
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:16 |
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Rarity posted:I figure out what's going on and how the game's going to run and everyone starts freaking out cause they're not seeing game theory like I see it and then it gets turned back around on me. I shouldn't really care because we've already won this game but it's still frustrating when people don't see poo poo that is really drat obvious. What game else? Weird post, if you think I am Scum, but you say "because not know game theory". Rarity posted:I guess at this point it's not the end of the world if we just lynch all of me/BHB/Lumpen. MT would go into LYLO already knowing who's town and who's scum and at this point I have faith she'd rather win with town.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:40 |
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Hmmm. Did not think you would.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 21:49 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I thought you said you were the best person for town to lynch today, where did this come from? :crossarm:
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 22:01 |
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Where is KK?
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 22:03 |
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Murmur Twin posted:I'm not really talking about the language of that post as much as the message itself. Even if it wasn't written in the language of a PR, it'd be scummy because the opinion he's representing (that I should be killed before his scumpicks because I am a LYLO threat, but that he himself is the right vote even though he's town) contradicts itself.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 22:13 |
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Scum dream last 3 is (in my view) Lumpen, MMT, Rarity. From posts, MMT should say same, right? Rarity should say same, right? In that case Town will lose I think.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2016 22:18 |
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Ok, what was I doing? I was just having fun. Coming off a couple of hardcore tryhard Nailbiters, I wanted to just play loose and entertain myself. So first I was sort of riffing on Kash's somewhat overwrought purple prose flavor style and the CYOA element, and just being silly with the third-person posts, which I tried to start each day with after I started that way. Then I had a serious fever and I was thinking about my idea inspired by Allen Wren's simulations, of making a Markov Chain Generator to do AI Mafia posting, and in my fevered state I started just making some ridiculously long and disjointed posts with tons of nonsense Mafiaesque phrasing and purposeless namedropping. Rarity actually said that it looked like a Markov Chain. And that was fun, but limiting past jokephase because it was a bad way to communicate actual content, although it was cool for generating reactions and I laughed. So since in this game we could post at night, and after several people said they could not penetrate the wordy posts, I decided that at night I would post monosyllabically. I ended up also going monosyllabic when I needed to actually communicate. The graphics were a riff on the "stroke narrative" that emerged, and a riff on people always acting like my Lists are nuts or too complicated, and a riff on my normal overconfident "11-dimensional chess" Mafia persona. I have been thinking lately about how megaposts are skimmed, and my posts are especially skimmed, and how I tend to post verbosely with a lot of snooty vocab, and some of my later wordy posts were not such a semantic mess as the early ones, they were just ridiculously pompous runons and tortured vocab exercises. I was trying to channel HP Lovecraft and Thomas Jefferson. Then finally at about post 75 I actually did set up a Markov Chain Generator and dumped in all the previous wordy posts, set it to generate 5000 words, and did very minor editing of the results. It was pretty funny when TNL tried to make sense of that post. After that I just stayed monosyllabic to try to actually contribute and be comprehensible. I figured this whole style would risk me being taken to LYLO and cause a Town loss, and tried to be sensitive to it, and was glad that it worked out ok. I thought it was a fun and positive experience, because it prevented me from trying to make myself the center of attention all the time and overbear discussion, as I sometimes do. The game ended up being really fun! Lumpen fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Mar 29, 2016 |
# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 01:56 |
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I LOVE doing photoshops for Mafia games, even more than making pretty charts. So doing esoteric art projects was also a big highlight and a lot of fun, and since it fit with what I was already doing I just went with it.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 02:01 |
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Scum team this game were real pro. Very well played.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 02:09 |
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I was not a fan of the CYOA effects in this game. I felt they detracted frkmt the fun overall, made the nights take even longer, and TMM's death by RNG was totall bullshit. It would be MUCH better to have the effects of each choice OPEN and directly said, and for each path to have a balanced but intereting twist to the game day, and for the path to be decided using public votes during the day, so there is something interesting to argue about which can also provide hints to alignment. So for example: you may go West, into the dragon den (if this is chosen the FIRST player who voted for it will be EATEN by the dragon, but the Town Cop gets 3 investigations tonight from talking to the wise sated dragon)<-- potential big cost, potential big reward, Godfather makes it attractive to Scum, makes a very interesting discussion of who will sacrifice themself You may go East, and camp on the sandy beach (all actions for the night will be publically Tracked because of footprints inn the sand)<-- if Scum Ninja is alive, Scum will want this! You may go South into the whispering wood (Random Busdriving of all players in the night) <-- useful if Town Power Roles seem to be depleted, could cause a Scum death if the Scum attempt a kill You may continie North (no effect, default if no majority reached)
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 02:58 |
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Check out the 4 names in the middle square.Lumpen posted:I have decidedly come down in favor of resting my trust and esteem upon JakeP, imgay, Rarity, and TMM with confidence that bespeaks their qualities expressed in posting and voting.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 03:18 |
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# ¿ May 17, 2024 08:13 |
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Khris Kruel posted:yeah I'm pretty sure the outer squares were who you thought were scummy and the inner was who you thought were town Actually it was Town on top to Scum on bottom, like an inverted LumpenList And for the Time Cube, it was Midday= Totally Town, Sunup=Tentatively Trustable, Sundown=Somewhat Suspicious, Midnight=Supposably Scummy For the 4-d cube diagram it was inner=Town, outer=Scum, radiating out from myself For the Masonic tracing board it was just matching people's claims or demeanor with symbology, it wasn't really alignment based. I was very much wrong on that day with my reads, of course.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2016 03:40 |