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Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
What if there was a modern, properly computerised and networked (cybernetic as they call it) planned economy? Like, it would use a national level barcode tracking and stock checking system (computerised checkout tills) that would quickly read and predict and react, using artificial intelligence, to the network effect of aggregate individual wants? And the emergent properties of this network would cause everything to be picked up and moved about like an invisible person moving chess pieces.

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Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

I give my dick the ol' invisible hand if you catch my meaning.

Fart Puzzle
Jul 25, 2007

compressed fart pieces

sounds great but don't we all have to have brain implants for this to work? not that i am against brain implants unless they are anti weed brain implants then i would be hella loving pissed

Anne Frank Funk
Nov 4, 2008

CIA would be quick to stop any such thing from happening OP, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Fart Puzzle posted:

sounds great but don't we all have to have brain implants for this to work? not that i am against brain implants unless they are anti weed brain implants then i would be hella loving pissed

they should make pro weed brain implants

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax
Shut the gently caress up

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
I'll never shut up about weed

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
BEING
ESCULA GRIND'S
#1 SIMP

Ahundredbux posted:

I'll never shut up about weed

A patriot is born.

tazjin
Jul 24, 2015


The AI should just slowly abolish humanity in a peaceful way by sterilizing everyone, then colonize and conquer the galaxy. I've said this before OP why does nobody listen to me

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
robot weed for our AI pals

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Apr 8, 2012

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I picked the tracer tong dark age ending actually

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
merge is the canon ending

Elukka
Feb 18, 2011

For All Mankind
It's a trope among some scifi authors (Kim Stanley Robinson, Iain M. Banks) that maybe a form of communism with modern networks could be Cool & Good. Otherwise I've seen very little said about it.

At least it'd solve one of the main absurdities of capitalism in a technological society where the automation of menial things is, counter to all sense, a bad thing. (and thus our economic system wants us to be luddites). But maybe some band-aid like basic income would be more feasible.

Soup du Journey
Mar 20, 2006

by FactsAreUseless

Maoist Pussy posted:

What if there was a modern, properly computerised and networked (cybernetic as they call it) planned economy? Like, it would use a national level barcode tracking and stock checking system (computerised checkout tills) that would quickly read and predict and react, using artificial intelligence, to the network effect of aggregate individual wants? And the emergent properties of this network would cause everything to be picked up and moved about like an invisible person moving chess pieces.

dude, this is already here. how do you think amazon has such great delivery times? they have some gnarly algorithms in place that know what your region wants before you press the button.

thankfully we live in a capitalist utopia where the savings from all this increased efficiency get passed along to a handful of silicon valley cunts instead of being wastefully distributed to the national population

Fart Puzzle
Jul 25, 2007

compressed fart pieces

First robot weed then space weed man the future is looking bright

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_73vDgBjU

Pitdragon
Jan 20, 2004
Just another lurker
then the AI glitches out and thinks that humans need vapes to survive and the next thing you know everyone is chained to a giant vape rig 24/7

that really want you want OP?

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
lol if you don't

Fart Puzzle
Jul 25, 2007

compressed fart pieces

ya know moist pussy is really onto something here I think, just gotta make a robo marx and we are good to go

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
I'd chill with robot mao

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms
like, the poster maoist pussy turned into a robot or at least a cyborg and when you pass the robot weed they say "I never asked for this" like Adam Jensen from robocop the game

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
all labor is collective

all profit is private expropriation of value created by collective labor

eat together poo poo together gently caress together

inshallah

monkey
Jan 20, 2004

by zen death robot
Yams Fan
If a networked AI with such capability existed it would be capitalist as gently caress. Tech needs money in the same way that humans need oxygen. The emergent behaviour would be worse than Wall St. in terms of concentrating wealth.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

monkey posted:

If a networked AI with such capability existed it would be capitalist as gently caress. Tech needs money in the same way that humans need oxygen. The emergent behaviour would be worse than Wall St. in terms of concentrating wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_trading

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
i press the buton on my computer today and the package arrives tomorrow

Dial-a-Dog
May 22, 2001
I like this idea but what if instead of anticipating our material wants and needs, the ai predicted where we'd be hiding from it and dispatched Hunter killer androids to drive us into extinction

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Aralan posted:

I like this idea but what if instead of anticipating our material wants and needs, the ai predicted where we'd be hiding from it and dispatched Hunter killer androids to drive us into extinction

either or tbh

The Protagonist
Jun 29, 2009

The average is 5.5? I thought it was 4. This is very unsettling.

Aralan posted:

I like this idea but what if instead of anticipating our material wants and needs, the ai predicted where we'd be hiding from it and dispatched Hunter killer androids to drive us into extinction

Ahundredbux posted:

either or tbh

ManDingo
Jun 1, 2001
The whole thing would come crashing down when the SJW's demanded the AI receive a "living wage" and ample time to explore vis sexuality.

edit: wow that word filter rules...S J W s

Danger Mahoney
Mar 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Maoist Pussy posted:

What if there was a modern, properly computerised and networked (cybernetic as they call it) planned economy? Like, it would use a national level barcode tracking and stock checking system (computerised checkout tills) that would quickly read and predict and react, using artificial intelligence, to the network effect of aggregate individual wants? And the emergent properties of this network would cause everything to be picked up and moved about like an invisible person moving chess pieces.

Well whoever owned the company who owned the patent to this machine would make a killing selling it to marketing and data aggregation companies, and a smaller fortune selling to retailers with large and numerous warehouses. The engineers who made it would receive a small bonus at the end of the year (if their stocks are vested).

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
'Benevolent Dictator AI' is the best form of government.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

Ahundredbux posted:

robot weed for our AI pals

seconding this

to the max :megadeath:

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Apr 8, 2012

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glowstick party tonight
Oct 4, 2003

by zen death robot

Maoist Pussy posted:

What if there was a modern, properly computerised and networked (cybernetic as they call it) planned economy? Like, it would use a national level barcode tracking and stock checking system (computerised checkout tills) that would quickly read and predict and react, using artificial intelligence, to the network effect of aggregate individual wants? And the emergent properties of this network would cause everything to be picked up and moved about like an invisible person moving chess pieces.

change wants to needs and yeah I guess that would be communism

nice mechanical turk reference tho

JiveHonky
May 12, 2001

by zen death robot
Grimey Drawer
robots are dumb as hell (except r2d2 from starwars 2)

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax

mdm posted:

change wants to needs and yeah I guess that would be communism

nice mechanical turk reference tho

It was as close as I could get to "Invisible Hand" without being 100% obvious

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
The AI will just be a shadowy figurehead for the Google engineers giving high level directives behind the scenes.

SOME PIG
Aug 12, 2004

Hittin' Switches,
Twistin' wigs with
Phat Radical Mathematical type Scriptures
i had the same idea during one of my psychotic breaks. I dubbed it "techno-communism."

GastonEatTheEggs
Nov 7, 2012

good thread op, but communism of all types is "fail" as the kids are saying

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Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
I bet that some alien society that was already communist could make ppl be communist after a few generations of living in a perfect communist utopia. It'd take a whole lotta doin though, if you know what I mean. And the aliens would have to be sexy as hell.

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