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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

As some day it may happen that a scapegoat must be found,
I've got a little list, I've got a little list.
Of counterrevolution'ries who are often in the Graun.
And whose work is frankly piss, I've got them on the list.

There's those whose resignations could replace a metronome,
Whose letters of departure had a sycophantic tone,
Yet now they complain constantly of ev'ry past concern.
A shame they didn't feel the need to mention it in term.
At least their many articles elucidate this twist.
I'm sure they'll not be missed, they'd none of them be missed.

He's got 'em on the list, he's got 'em on the list;
And they'll none of 'em be missed, they'll none of them be missed.

There's the people who re-run elections 'till their choice prevails,
The drat-ed centr-ists! I've got them on the list!
And what about the people who think that democracy;
Means “disenfranchise anyone who doesn't vote for me”.
Whose disdain for the membership personifies disgrace,
The reciprocity of which must be perceptible from space.
Ensure your criticism of their actions misses home,
Because the most important part of argument is tone.
But don't let use of simile articulate your wish,
We can only copy tories, all those others are dismissed.

You may put 'em on the list, you may put 'em on the list,
And they'd none of 'em be missed, they'd none of them be missed.

The worst are those who think equality begins with wealth,
Democratic socialists! I've got them on the list!
We wouldn't want to win any election with ideas,
That suggest the wealthy's owings might perhaps be in arrears,
We mustn't spend on infrastructure that could have any use,
Nor the myth of nation'l credit cards attempt to disabuse.
It's better to continue like it's nineteen ninety four,
And try to find an ersatz Tony Blair to take the floor,
I'm sure that we'll win them back with “soft left” Owen Smith
Because otherwise we're stuck, with that bearded Bolshevist.

He'll put us on a list, he'll put us on a list,
Like a bloody Stalinist, a bloody Stalinist.


Nice.

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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Vitamin P posted:

You are vastly underestimating the efficacy of the UK drug market. It may be garbage but by gently caress they'll get it to you, often alongside a pizza you didn't order.

Yeah. I don't do any drugs except caffeine and alcohol these days, but I reckon it's actually less convenient to get weed here in Holland because coffee shops don't deliver and have actual opening hours. Although I guess if you're in Amsterdam you can just ask literally any non-Dutch person if you can get something off them and you'll probably score a joint (if you want pills or coke otoh you can ask any Dutch person standing on a street corner in A'dam and they are obliged by law to provide).

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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ultrabindu posted:

Is Sturgeon really going to push for independence 2.0?

Scottish independence is kinda the SNP's "thing".

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Mhairi Black for First Minister of the Democratic People's Republic of Scotland.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Alchenar posted:

Ok so 50 years ago MI5 may have surveilled hard left groups which were obvious candidates for infiltration by the Soviet Union. What's your actual point and how does it relate to the modern context?

e: an obviously real threat given that we know that in this same period MI6 had been infiltrated by the Soviet Union.

Given that Corbyn joined the CND in 1966 when it was a "communist controlled" subversive organisation under active surveillance it's completely factually accurate to say that MI5 have worked against him.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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I have intelligence that there may be communist sympathisers in this very thread. Stay vigilant everyone.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Foxtrot_13 posted:

These are not paranoid fantasies in a Jeffery Archer novel, the USSR and it's client states were actively trying to ferment a Communist revolution in this country

If only they'd succeeded.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Not only should your license expire, but you ought to have to retest every 10 years imo.

I haven't been able to figure out a way of implementing this that doesn't lead to loads of bad drivers losing their jobs by no longer being able to get to work though. Aside from cheap, regular, well run and properly funded public transport but I'm not a complete fantasist. You'd probably have to phase it in just for new drivers and wait 50 years for the current generation of people who got their licenses at 17 and then promptly forgot how not to be a hazard on the roads to die.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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some interesting points raised here tbh

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Pistol_Pete posted:

Old people are more of an economically exploitative class, like landlords (poo poo, a lot of them ARE landlords), cynically and maliciously sucking wealth out of the young to make their useless, wrinkly old lives even more comfy and luxurious. Fighting back against them is no more than legitimate self-defense.

In fact, I'd be in favour of a Purge style scenario where, one night a year, it's legal to break into houses and, if you manage to kill the owners, you get to keep the house. THAT'D solve the housing crisis, by god!

Of an evening I like to put on my most menacing hoodie (it's got a meme on it), get my zombie knife and go out mugging olds in economic self defence.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Pesmerga posted:

Well, it's not really a case of people buying something that they know is an imitation, it's that you're paying over the odds for a knock-off that could potentially be unsafe. For example: -

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35075642


Counterfeits can actually be quite problematic, whether we're talking about cosmetics containing arsenic, products with electrical defects, fake medicines etc.

One of the weirder research bids I've considered applying for was a means of automatically detecting fake olive oil by shining a laser through bottles of the stuff and looking at the characteristics of the refracted light. Apparently bottling lovely olive oil as expensive stuff or even adulterating it with other oils is big business.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Zephro posted:

It was one of the Mafia's first lines of business and apparently is something they're still involved in. There was a programme on Radio 4 months ago, in the aftermath of the horse-meat scandal, that was looking at adulteration of food and I seem to remember them claiming that most of the olive oil you buy at supermarkets has been cut with other, cheaper oils in shady circumstances before being sold to the big buyers.

Could well be, it was a serious sized project, couple million euros of EU funding. I didn't apply in the end because I didn't think I had enough experience or the right collaborators but it sounded interesting and working with lasers is cool. I was just surprised to discover that fake olive oil is even a thing, let alone a major source of income for organised crime.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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There's still more than two weeks to go until the Labour leadership contest is finally over. It feels like it's been dragging on since forever, gently caress.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

Terrorists are wrong but you have to respect them for doing what they believe in.

Historically, some terrorists have been right.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Darth Walrus posted:

No, no, those are freedom fighters.

I think when you're not quite sure yet whether they're right or not you just call them militants.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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OwlFancier posted:

No more money to the Eurocrats! Except whenever we want to leave the country!

Why would anyone ever want to leave glorious post-Brexit Britain?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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The cool thing with secure, well paid jobs is that if they start getting in the way of following your dream of hawking twee shite on Etsy and writing the Great British Novel in a cottage in Cornwall while you rent out your London flat, you can always quit. Weirdly it isn't quite so easy to go the other way.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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tooterfish posted:

So are you if you think the "dozens of armed men" part of the headline isn't misleading and deliberately alarmist though.

"Dozens of drunk men wielding daggers occupy church in bizarre sex ritual." A traditional Scottish marriage.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Pesmerga posted:

Hope you're feeling OK, and that it heals soon.

In other news, in between articles decrying fiction writers writing about anything other than their own, direct, personal experiences, and the 'zero hours contracts are awesome, honest' opinion pieces, we now have this too (which mysteriously has not been opened for comments).

Jews in Labour: the Magazine for Jewish Mothers-to-be

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Cerv posted:

no-one takes an actual bladed knife to a wedding. all sgian dubhs are just props
Mine has a blade, it's not very sharp though. I should probably get one of those bottle opener ones instead, much more useful.

Guavanaut posted:

How do they cut the cake? :ohdear:
The last wedding I went to in Scotland the groom wore a claymore, which they used to cut the cake.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Yeah, it was strapped to his back. I don't know why exactly he wanted to wear one, but I guess you can do what you like with your own wedding.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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When I voted for a party other than Labour in the Westminster elections because I didn't like their candidate for MP Pissflaps said I shouldn't be a party member, now he's recommending this course of action?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

When I google my name it just replies with "you died alone" and then turns my computer off. :smith:

Turning your computer off is a good first step towards not dying alone. If that's what you're into.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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The Dutch have got rid of their 5c and 10c coins and now it's annoying when I go to Germany or Belgium and have to deal with all their lovely shrapnel. I don't think it would work in the UK though because they still charge prices between 5c increments and just round up or down, and no way could you convince the Great British People to give up on the 3p change that they're entitled to.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

If you steal a Reliant Robin can you get done for both car theft and motorcycle theft?

If you steal a Reliant Robin you're probably saving its owner a messy death rolling on a tight bend into an oncoming lorry and should be applauded as a hero.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

DesperateDan, can we trade lives? That sounds like heaven and I can't afford several acres of woodland just yet.

For what it's worth I do exercise, I eat well and am generally in pretty good shape, but when the only reward is the vague fluffy knowledge that it's good for you, the only way I can be bothered to make the effort is if I can condense it into 15-20 min bursts, tops. Weights and chin up bar etc at home, and quick blasts of sprint training instead of marathons.

I know that you wouldn't be able to tell from YLLS, but other exercise than weightlifting is available. Cycling, swimming, hiking, climbing, gymnastics, ball games, racquet sports, yoga, martial arts, surfing, orienteering, diving, skating, just going for a walk from time to time, even rowing... Maybe one of them has something that you prefer to picking things up and putting them down again. Most people find that they do a sport because they enjoy the activity itself, not as a way of being rewarded, so I'd suggest finding something that doesn't feel like a chore. Maybe try a team sport or something competitive?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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It makes your piss smell really weird though.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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TomViolence posted:

A&E departments need to offer more competitive services so that today's freewheeling, modern, connected, injured and dying people can shop around for the emergency care service that suits them best.

You joke but even in countries with government controlled health insurance rather than the NHS this is exactly what they do. I can only go to certain hospitals with my insurance or the costs will only be partially covered.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Kurtofan posted:

Has Jeremy won

Still more than a week until they announce the result.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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kingturnip posted:

I met with a parent during the holiday because she was stressing about choosing a secondary school for her child and she said (I paraphrase):


Some parents now believe that the school you choose for your child at 10/11 will determine whether your child grows up unemployed or not.
I mean, I empathise, because that must be a poo poo mindframe to have, but it's kind of bonkers that we've let things get that way.

The best thing for her child's education would probably have been to move to Finland before they were born and any decisions she makes now are just attempts to mitigate that initial mistake. Looking at some studies it appears that places like Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea and Japan have overtaken Finland as giving the top education in terms of stuff like maths and science exam results, but anecdotally those places also seem to put insane pressure on their kids so I dunno if it sounds all that great if you also care about them being happy and well rounded individuals rather than just getting into a top university.

OTOH there's that whole depressed, alcoholic Finns thing so who knows.

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Hoops posted:

I actually just went back through the OP links and I'm sorry it turns out I'm absolutely wrong about this, so never mind, disregard. Don't know why I thought I'd seen it so many times.

Edit: also found out that Guavanaut does the OP every month. Good effort from you.

I think it was Red October initially another year and got changed later in the month.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Fair play to Mr. Parsons, he looks way better in a skirt than you'd expect from that headshot.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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UnquietDream posted:

On a completely divergent point. Bloody hell was Cardiff busy today, I'd expected some crowds for the City of the Unexpected but that was frankly absurd. I hope whoever organised that learns a few lessons for the future (their messaging solution for telling people about events did not seem to actually work) and does another one because on a technical level the whole thing was quite impressive.

I blame forums downtime forcing people to leave their homes.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Zephro posted:

I've often wondered what foreign TV news does when they're reporting on Britain and want some stereotypical sound effects. Do they use a Kinks track? A few bars of Rule Britannia? Some hurdy-gurdy music?

If it's a story that's obviously about Scotland, then generic bagpipes. Otherwise The Clash - London Calling.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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quote:

“in 2010 a man was sent a pornographic video purporting to be of a tiger and a woman engaging in a sex act but which turned out to be a man dressed as a tiger – a fact that was only uncovered in the courtroom”

If I remember the story correctly wasn't he pretending to be specifically Tony the Tiger?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Pesmerga posted:

Brexit is going to happen. Once Article 50 is triggered, that's it, and most of the EU is quite happy to see it happen.

forkboy84 posted:

the desire for us to leave as swiftly as possible has hit strong in the rest of the EU. They don't want us, & they want to make leaving as unpleasant as possible to discourage others who might think about leaving like Poland's current government.

I don't think this is true. Yes, if we are going to leave then the rest of the Union would like to see it happen quickly to minimise the period of uncertainty. But the EU as an organisation doesn't want to lose one of its richest and, even now, most globally influential members. Governments of other EU countries don't want to lose access to UK markets or their citizens' access to the UK. The people living in the rest of the Europe might not have all that much sympathy for the UK's long-time attitude of "we're next to Europe but not part of Europe", but even so my impression is that Britain and Britons are generally viewed positively.

Now that the decision to leave appears to have been made, people would like to see us get on with it, and they are of course to a degree people are resentful of that decision, which is after all an explicit rejection of Europe and European unity as a concept. But Merkel and Hollande and Rutte and the rest aren't sitting there rubbing their hands together going "finally an opportunity to be rid of hated Britain, where our citizens love to go on rain filled holiday, whose citizens come to spend money in our sunnier country, and who buy so many of our exports".

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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I'm not saying that Britain won't be treated harshly for leaving, or that there isn't resentment over that decision. I was objecting to the idea in both those quotes that the rest of Europe wants to see us go in the first place. At a national or supranational level I just don't think that's the case, and at an individual level I don't think it's something that people generally feel strongly about. I think people in the UK overestimate just how big a deal it is elsewhere - while to Britons it's an important personal decision and the EU has dominated headlines and national political discourse for a couple of decades now, for the average person in other countries it's mostly just another thing that's happening Somewhere Else. You can compare it with the Russian intervention in Ukraine - a huge event that some people in the UK cared deeply about for personal or ideological reasons, but ultimately something that leaves the headlines for the inside pages with the next big domestic story and doesn't seem to much impact your daily life. If you ask people about it specifically they'll probably have an opinion, but in general it's not something they care all that much about.

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forkboy84 posted:

We've been the awkward bastards of Europe since almost day one. But, I wasn't saying they are happy that we voted to leave because that's terrible for everyone, but now we have voted to leave they just want to get the inevitable over with quickly and in a manner which discourages other nations who are voting in Eurosceptic parties in large numbers from following us. Even in the unlikely event our next government wants to defy the referendum result, there's huge questions & uncertainties about how the next Tory government would react. Better to just yank the plaster off and get it over with than slowly dragging it out over years from their perspective.

I think perhaps I misunderstood the intention of both your posts then. Sorry!

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Let's follow the Irish and change our road signs to km and km/h imo. Or we could even one-up the Europeans by going to the SI standard for speed limits, m/s. That'd show Johnny Foreigner.

big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Sep 21, 2016

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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MrL_JaKiri posted:

Not even that, he just got some cigarettes and tore them up

Paging Horselord to the thread to confirm/deny this outrage.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Guavanaut posted:

Excuse me sir I think you'll find that this sticker that says "fighting for white rights" is not racist because it contains no reference to any race.
__/
:heritage:

In fact white is a colour. not a race, and furthermore,

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big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

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Is it usual to arrest someone just on 20 year old claims they make in an autobiography? Does the arrest mean there's other evidence for a crime actually having been committed or are they just hauling him as a matter of course to see what's what?

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