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http://achewood.com/index.php?date=08112005 God dammit Todd
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Mar 5, 2013 06:32
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God I love that shirt. If he would have offered that shirt in the store, I would have bought it. What is it with small media, especially webcomics, not offering anything that people actually want to buy?
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Mar 5, 2013 07:30
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They sold a:code:code:
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Mar 5, 2013 08:25
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I have this strip signed and framed. http://achewood.com/index.php?date=01262004 Also, I am hella gald to have my Todd Creation Myth T-Shirt and Dude and Catastrophe hoodie.
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Mar 5, 2013 08:58
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I think only one person said Achewood was misogynist, and didn't really explain their position at all. It's not a useful thing to respond to when most of the conversation has been about portrayals and the role of women in the comic rather than whether or not it hates women, which is a totally different thing.
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Mar 5, 2013 10:42
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Molly's line in the fourth panel here: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03142003 always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. "I'm sorry I straight up roasted your ding dong" is still fantastic, though. Polly was a great character, though, and I wish she was around more.
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Mar 5, 2013 13:59
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Tonfa posted:Honestly the only problem I personally have is from a certain point on half the strips with Beef and Molly involve him yelling at her and it's really uncomfortable to read on an archive binge of what is otherwise a really fun comic. Are the ones where she is yelling at him just fine though? Also, I've always heard Lyle as Adam Carolla, and Lie Bot as Christopher Walken.
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Mar 5, 2013 14:43
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Still one of my favorite arcs just because of how ridiculous it is (while still managing to capture everyone's personality) http://achewood.com/index.php?date=05132003
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Mar 5, 2013 14:57
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Sigma-X posted:Who said you can't talk about it? I think people have merely said that expecting strong female characters in a comic about dudes and dude relationships is like hoping to find blueberries in your strawberry patch. Might happen, but not necessary. Good female characters aren't a necessity in everything, no, but Achewood's treatment of women could be a reason why actual real-life women might not like the comic as much, and that is factor in recommending the comic to friends and acquaintances. Again, people aren't saying "we need badass female characters that are amazing in Achewood, stat!", they're saying "Achewood rarely treats women in a sympathetic or humanizing way", which is a negative trait in the comic, and worth talking about.
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Mar 5, 2013 14:58
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Rodney the Piper posted:Molly's line in the fourth panel here: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03142003 always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. "I'm sorry I straight up roasted your ding dong" is still fantastic, though. Onstad is certainly not a pioneer in gender relations, but given how Molly ends up fleshing out compared to her early appearances he does not come across as misogynist. Not the world's best writer of women for sure, but if one includes the blogs she is a decently well rounded character who is not just defined by her relationship to Beef. Its why she is in the comic though, since the comic is completely centered on male characters. As for Beef yelling at her a lot, she also yells at him and straight up mocks him plenty of times. Perhaps I am missing something there, but Beef is clearly portrayed as awkward and sometimes a total jerk since he uses his background as an excuse for bad behavior. Also he is really worried about the taco guy taking a dump in the taco.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:19
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Atmus posted:Also, I've always heard Lyle as Adam Carolla Eh, I don't know. I'm a huge Carolla fan. But doesn't Lyle need to have some kind of southern twang to his voice, even if slight? I would never expect Adam to be able to accomplish that. It's close, you've got the right idea. But Adam has zero range, and Lyle needs a little more. Revol fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 15:32
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I never really thought of him being 'southern', so I didn't really apply an accent to him. Adam Carolla has kind of the voice you would expect a biker (even though Lyle isn't one) to have without being really over the top about it like Bobcat Goldthwait.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:41
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Actually, Adam Corolla would work great for LieBot I always envisioned him having that kinda game show host pitch.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:42
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Rodney the Piper posted:Molly's line in the fourth panel here: http://achewood.com/index.php?date=03142003 always kind of rubbed me the wrong way. "I'm sorry I straight up roasted your ding dong" is still fantastic, though. For what it's worth, that's a pretty tame comment about gender for a woman from the 1600s.
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Mar 5, 2013 15:49
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You know, I've always pictured Ray as being voiced by Emo Phillips. And Roast Beef by Morgan Freeman. And Lyle by the sound of a can of tuna being dropped down the stairs. And Philippe by a scratchy 1978 vinyl recording of Bach's English Suite #6 in D Minor. And Molly by Robert Mitchum, because who needs women in a strip this utterly misogynist.
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Mar 5, 2013 16:17
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Atmus posted:I never really thought of him being 'southern', so I didn't really apply an accent to him. Adam Carolla has kind of the voice you would expect a biker (even though Lyle isn't one) to have without being really over the top about it like Bobcat Goldthwait. When I think of Adam's voice, I think of a high school shop teacher, but that's because I'm typecasting him.
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Mar 5, 2013 16:17
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Onstad is certainly not a pioneer in gender relations, but given how Molly ends up fleshing out compared to her early appearances he does not come across as misogynist. Not the world's best writer of women for sure, but if one includes the blogs she is a decently well rounded character who is not just defined by her relationship to Beef. Its why she is in the comic though, since the comic is completely centered on male characters. I don't think he's a misogynist all-around, just that one line that has always stuck out to me pretty weird and doesn't really mesh with the rest of his writing. But maybe it's part of her "from 1600" deal.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:06
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Danny McBride would make a good Lyle. Todd should be voiced by whoever does Dr. Rockso. (He does cocaine) Also here's a strip being misogynistic, but then again, it's Nice Pete.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:08
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SoupyTwist posted:Also here's a strip being misogynistic, but then again, it's Nice Pete. Yeah, but since Nice Pete is a sociopathic murderer, I doubt any of his qualities or opinions are espoused by Onstad. In fact, if Nice Pete is doing any given thing, it's a good bet that you probably shouldn't be agreeing with it. ie: That strip is telling you not to be a misogynist. Also to not be in a band because they can cause much trouble. VV Obviously Just Offscreen fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 17:26
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Except for the fried chicken.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:33
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SoupyTwist posted:Danny McBride would make a good Lyle. Yeah, yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:36
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PepeSilvia posted:They sold a: I've mentioned this before, but a female exchange student asked if the context for "sucks" meant I was advertiing that I like to suck dick. The best translation I could give was, "it means no fun to be around." That was the first and only time I wore that shirt to a bar. So it's true, you can't meet women while wearing that shirt.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:41
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Revol posted:Eh, I don't know. I'm a huge Carolla fan. But doesn't Lyle need to have some kind of southern twang to his voice, even if slight? I would never expect Adam to be able to accomplish that. I've always imagined Lyle as sound kind of like Gilbert Gottfried but A) at a reasonable volume and B) with a stereotypical New York/New Jersey (Maybe Brooklyn? I'm not familiar enough with the local subtleties.) "gently caress you " accent. It's either that or, as mentioned, an aging biker who can still kick some rear end if he really needs to.
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Mar 5, 2013 17:56
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I think Lyle sounds like Jason Lee as an angry version of Earl.
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Mar 5, 2013 18:04
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ManiacClown posted:. It's either that or, as mentioned, an aging biker who can still kick some rear end if he really needs to. Chuck Zito.
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Mar 5, 2013 19:18
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I never bothered reading any of the blogs until now and Jesus Christ despite the dearth of good female characters or racial stereotypes or whatever that is some Writing that this man has done.
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Mar 5, 2013 23:16
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:I never bothered reading any of the blogs until now and Jesus Christ despite the dearth of good female characters or racial stereotypes or whatever that is some Writing that this man has done. Yeah, Molly's blogs (all the blogs really) rule. As was mentioned earlier, Molly's in particular feels like a serious effort to write a legit woman's perspective and for the most part it does so well. e: also, wow, read the blogs! Some are weaker/less in-depth than others but most of them are magnificently well-written, interlink with the strips which were released at the same time, and feature fully developed independent storylines for each character. Big reccs in particular are Ray, Lyle and Cornelius. Android Blues fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Mar 5, 2013 |
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Mar 5, 2013 23:21
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In rebuttal, I offer this piece of misogyny: not really, I just think this is probably the funniest Philippe moment
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Mar 6, 2013 00:30
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Android Blues posted:e: also, wow, read the blogs! Some are weaker/less in-depth than others but most of them are magnificently well-written, interlink with the strips which were released at the same time, and feature fully developed independent storylines for each character. Big reccs in particular are Ray, Lyle and Cornelius. Seconding the Lyle blog rec. In particular, his trip to Scotland is a pretty interesting read (plus it builds up to Lyle arriving drunk at Ray's toilet party.)
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Mar 6, 2013 01:51
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wait! guys! how come when characters who usually wear clothes are naked we see their dicks hangin out, but chars like roast beef and pat are frequently naked and we do not see their dicks? does this bother anyone else? where are the dicks, chris?
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Mar 6, 2013 03:02
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The answer is obvious.
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Mar 6, 2013 05:46
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withak posted:The answer is obvious. We can't get enough ROCK HARD CAT COCK ?
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Mar 6, 2013 06:03
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I always imagined Lyle sounding like a rougher, raunchier version of Dietrich Baeder in Office Space. "HEY PETER, MAN, CHECK OUT CHANNEL 9! IT'S THE BREAST EXAMS!"
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Mar 6, 2013 06:16
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http://achewood.com/index.php?date=02142002 Ran in to this one today and it might be my favorite pre-party strip.
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Mar 6, 2013 12:58
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 Superman wouldn't wear a police hat in the shower! Applesauce! 
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Mar 6, 2013 14:15
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I somehow totally forgot about this one, but it's got some incredible lines. "Actually dates to the earliest monotheists" "The Hindenburg of walkin' into a room" 
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Mar 6, 2013 17:03
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http://achewood.com/index.php?date=02262002 We never hear anything else about Pat's sister after this.
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Mar 6, 2013 17:29
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Ron Perlman as Lyle would be pretty much the best thing ever.
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Mar 6, 2013 17:56
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Pakled posted:I somehow totally forgot about this one, but it's got some incredible lines. The final panel in this is just brilliant. JU WANN SOME MOCHA CHICA?!
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Mar 6, 2013 21:54
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NoneMoreNegative posted:
Oh my God, this is awesome. Even though I know that the strip is about teddy bears co-existing with cats and an eternally 5-year-old otter, seeing this image kinda made it hit home.
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