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Twerk from Home posted:Would you write Mazda a $50k check though? That's a ton of new, expensive things at once for a company that is low on R&D money, and given that a Miata starts at about $24k sticker, I'd expect an N/A RX-7 to be north of $30k and one that hot to run above $40k for sure. Mazda doesn't even have any hybrid systems available to them that I know of. Their whole current ethos seems against the idea of a tech'd out, expensive RX-7. Mazda is currently focused on weight reduction and high efficiency 4 bangers. The Miata is a perfect halo car for their current line, so they have no reason for the RX he is imagining.
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Wasn't the RX-7 the worst selling even out of all the overpriced overteched japanese 90s halo cars?
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Cream_Filling posted:Wasn't the RX-7 the worst selling even out of all the overpriced overteched japanese 90s halo cars? Mazda is a small company with a small dealer base compared to a Toyota or Honda, it wouldn't surprise me, and the FD was old on sale for a few years in total in the US I think.
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Also, the FD didn't have a cheaper base model. You could get a NA Supra, 3000GT or 300Z. The RX-7 of that time only came in hot TT trims. And I don't think any of the mid-late 90's higher end Japanese sports cars sold that well.
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MrYenko posted:Still waiting for a gas-turbine extended-range EV. Nothing much came of the Volvo ECC sadly. Well, except for the S80 design being heavily influenced by it six years later.
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Twerk from Home posted:Would you write Mazda a $50k check though? That's a ton of new, expensive things at once for a company that is low on R&D money, and given that a Miata starts at about $24k sticker, I'd expect an N/A RX-7 to be north of $30k and one that hot to run above $40k for sure. Mazda doesn't even have any hybrid systems available to them that I know of. I would, actually. A lot of the people that grew up idolizing the Supra/300ZX/FD/3000GT have grown up and now have the money for something like that. While I didn't idolize those cars growing up I'm certainly in the age range and I have a lingering fondness for the rotary. The car I described doesn't make sense for Mazda but then again, the rotary has never made financial sense for them. If they never release another rotary sports car there's a very good chance I'll get another FD and build up a decent 3-rotor at some point in my life. And when I say I'll build it up, I mean let Aeka do all the work.
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MrYenko posted:Still waiting for a gas-turbine extended-range EV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy1n6pUXpM8 http://www.truckinginfo.com/channel...maker-says.aspx
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAeDuBMgSIc Everything about this sounds excellent: -Rear-engine, rear-wheel drive -Manual and twin-clutch gearboxes -4 doors -Turbo 3-cylinder engine -RenaultSport version in the future (fingers crossed) ... I need to move to Europe 
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Would have been funnier if it was rear-engine, front-wheel drive. (I'm just wondering why they felt the need to point out that yes, our rear-engined car is in fact RWD.)
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:... I need to move to Europe Supposedly it's coming here under Smart branding
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Snowdens Secret posted:Supposedly it's coming here under Smart branding Auto only no doubt.
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Hog Obituary posted:You mean like this? Neat concept, this would work well for city buses too, all that stopping and starting really fits the drivetrain. Lower emissions/noise would be a huge plus too, and hey no DPF!
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Hey look, there's a new http://jalopnik.com/2015-jeep-renegade-this-is-it-1534601079 (sorry for Jalopnik)
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Snowdens Secret posted:Supposedly it's coming here under Smart branding Got a source for that one? I mean, it sounds like a pretty wild extension of the Renault-Nissan-Mercedes triumvirate.
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blk posted:Hey look, there's a new If it looks like that and not some version of the new Cherokee, I'd be tempted. Would have to see the numbers, first, though.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:Got a source for that one? I mean, it sounds like a pretty wild extension of the Renault-Nissan-Mercedes triumvirate. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2014/02/nobody-told-renault-that-its-backwards-day/#more-746073 Correction, it will 'underpin' a Smart
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Snowdens Secret posted:http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2014/02/nobody-told-renault-that-its-backwards-day/#more-746073 A rear-wheel drive French car that doesn't suck possibly coming state-side and BMW will start using front-wheel drive - I'm scared... 
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blk posted:Hey look, there's a new Hey it doesn't look like crap. I'm shocked.
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I'm more OK with that than the new cherokee.
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Powershift posted:I'm more OK with that than the new cherokee. Also from what I've heard the at least the older Panda 4x4s were surprisingly good and useful off-road, so it probably won't even really hurt that aspect of the brand image. Don't know much about the latest versions though.
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THey are a short wheelbase car with small overhangs, just like the old Suzuki Samurais, in factory stock form I'm sure they do fine off road until you roll over.
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Saw the other angle shots that came out after. What is up with the fatass c pillars? That greenhouse in general is bizzare from anyrhing other than the myspace angle of the first leaked shot.
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Taaaaaaarb! posted:
I totally want one, and I think it's actually more faithful to the design of the old Fiat 500 than the current 500 is.
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I absolutely love that new little Jeep Renegade.    4x4, diesel engine (supposedly for North America!), 9spd auto... Not too bad! Ralph Gilles says everything will be officially unveiled tomorrow at 4am EST.
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There's a ton of Renegade pictures here and also in red: http://www.autobild.de/artikel/jeep-renegade-genfer-autosalon-2014-4957576.html I think Jeep has another hit on its hands.
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I like it because it reminds me of dream factory blow's minimurican kei trucks. They should make a ute/pickup version. Edit: hopefully it either comes with a stick, or they figure out how to stop the 9-speed from grenading itself every 5000 miles.
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Tekne posted:
Yeah, that's probably going to sell really well. It's quirky and people like that sort of thing.
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Powershift posted:I like it because it reminds me of dream factory blow's minimurican kei trucks. want that Chevy stoner van.
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Powershift posted:Edit: hopefully it either comes with a stick, or they figure out how to stop the 9-speed from grenading itself every 5000 miles. The 9-speed is made by ZF though, I thought their transmissions were fairly reliable. Manual would be best though, especially with low range for the three people who actually take it offroad.
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Ineptus Mechanicus posted:The 9-speed is made by ZF though, I thought their transmissions were fairly reliable. Manual would be best though, especially with low range for the three people who actually take it offroad. With 9 gears I don't think you'll need a separate low range 
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Ineptus Mechanicus posted:The 9-speed is made by ZF though, I thought their transmissions were fairly reliable. Manual would be best though, especially with low range for the three people who actually take it offroad. The 9-speed is designed by ZF, it's still built by chrysler who has a reputation for glass transmissions. http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/33-engine-technical-discussion/4762-transmission-woes.html You Am I posted:With 9 gears I don't think you'll need a separate low range First gear is still 4.7:1 and 5th is still 1:1. It just has a fuckton of overdrive gears.
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"Real Jeep People!!!" are super mad about it which means it's going to be successful.
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Cream_Filling posted:Also from what I've heard the at least the older Panda 4x4s were surprisingly good and useful off-road, so it probably won't even really hurt that aspect of the brand image. Don't know much about the latest versions though. Throatwarbler posted:THey are a short wheelbase car with small overhangs, just like the old Suzuki Samurais, in factory stock form I'm sure they do fine off road until you roll over. The new ones aren't quite as focused, but then again they're nowhere near as basic, either. Certainly more capable than anyone would believe, though.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:"Real Jeep People!!!" are super mad about it which means it's going to be successful. I kinda feel like I'm a part of "the problem" because because we're car shopping for my wife and we absolutely HATE CUVs but I see this, show her, and we both go 'Yeah this looks good'. I don't get how I can look at almost any other CUV and go 'gross!' but look at this and thumbs up. I suppose it's because she drives a Nissan Cube right now so the quirk works much like has already been stated. If it doesn't come with a manual option though it's a no go, she demands a manual and a hatch or wagon which means we'll probably add another VW to the stable since they are the only ones offering.
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KakerMix posted:I kinda feel like I'm a part of "the problem" because because we're car shopping for my wife and we absolutely HATE CUVs but I see this, show her, and we both go 'Yeah this looks good'. I don't get how I can look at almost any other CUV and go 'gross!' but look at this and thumbs up. I suppose it's because she drives a Nissan Cube right now so the quirk works much like has already been stated. *ahem* 
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Powershift posted:The 9-speed is designed by ZF, it's still built by chrysler who has a reputation for glass transmissions. Not every ZF product has to be good, either.
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Saw two Cadillac test mules on the way to work today. First was a two door, not covered up much - think it was an ELR mule. Second was a large four door in full camo.... not sure what that was.
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KakerMix posted:
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Mr. Wiggles posted:*ahem* I get that the Cube has people that hate it, but the 500L is straight up hideous. Interiors of them is just as bad as the normal 500s too, a big slab of shiny plastic right in your face. Also the dealership wouldn't let us test drive the Abarth they had on the lot even though we pulled up in a Golf R. Cream_Filling posted:Also Subaru still does a manual Imperza I think. No hatch on the normal Impreza so that's out and the Crosstrek is ok (and has a 5 speed option) but it's kinda worse than a SUV because it's a crossover. The STI maybe but man those interiors, also the newest model doesn't have a hatch! PCOS Bill posted:There's always the Scion xB The xB is flabby now and this 'new' one goes completely against the whole idea of the first xB. I could sell her more on the FRS/BRZ more than I could sell her on an xB. Basically we are on the end of consumers that car manufacturers don't care about, but we're aware of it. If that means we have two Golf Rs then so be it.
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