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quote:jobber talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVJo2z3C_1Y
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Mar 22, 2014 05:14
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Barry Horowitz was such a good jobber that they gave him his own baseball card.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:25
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I seriously think Heath Slater is the best jobber working today. The best thing that ever happened to the dude was WWE giving up on the Slater/Gabriel tag team and having him lose a bunch of matches and I mean that in a positive way. I don't even think of the word "jobber" as a derogatory term when talking about him because they are needed and he's perfect.
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Mar 22, 2014 05:43
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Having him be the guy to primarily work with Bret Hart in-ring was about as high an endorsement you can get, given one wrong move could have basically killed or paralyzed Bret for life.
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Mar 22, 2014 06:06
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Minidust posted:Is there any reason why the Ax Kick seems to be the Universal Black Person Finisher in WWE? Booker T, R-Truth, Alicia Fox... even Ahmed Johnson did it, though not as a finisher. Meh that's only four people over twenty years. Maybe it's because they're leggy and athletic, maybe Truth/Fox do it as a tribute to Booker T. It's not as black as rap entrance themes or never winning the Raw world title.
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Mar 22, 2014 06:15
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Jerusalem posted:Having him be the guy to primarily work with Bret Hart in-ring was about as high an endorsement you can get, given one wrong move could have basically killed or paralyzed Bret for life. And if I'm Heath Slater, I'm probably marking out inside nonstop for the entire time I'm working with Bret Hart.
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Mar 22, 2014 06:32
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The best jobbers are the guys with gimmicks so lame you relish watching them lose, and vividly remember matches they won. Brooklyn Brawler is forever king of the jobbers and his win over Triple H is the best.
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Mar 22, 2014 06:58
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I saw Heath Slater vs. Zack Ryder at a house show and Slater got NUCLEAR heat. It was insane. He easily got the most heat that night.
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Mar 22, 2014 07:11
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oatgan posted:The best jobbers are the guys with gimmicks so lame you relish watching them lose, and vividly remember matches they won. Brooklyn Brawler is forever king of the jobbers and his win over Triple H is the best. Ric Flair is the best jobber because he got paid a bunch of money to lose to Hulk Hogan for 20 years and Hulk Hogan is the best.
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Mar 22, 2014 07:40
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projecthalaxy posted:Dolph Ziggler is the greatest jobber or in this case I would prefer "enhancement talent" of this generation. Makes everyone look like a billion bucks. Dolph Ziggler is going to literally murder himself one day over-selling something. Heath Slater is far safer to himself, and has the perfect amount of southern slimeball to make people want to see him get beaten up regularly. When you talk about how safe someone is or isn't, it has to go both ways.
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Mar 22, 2014 09:25
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Ziggler sometimes pulls me out of his matches by overselling. Like, I get it dude, you can sell but I don't need to see you do a flippy-do for every little clothesline.
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Mar 22, 2014 09:27
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Gillberg is the best jobber because he got a multi-year gimmick out of having a 3 minute intro and then a 2 minute match.
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Mar 22, 2014 10:23
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Justin Godscock's avatar reminded me of a question I've being meaning to ask. How well recieved was Vince being the Higher Power to you goons watching at the time? Was it pretty obvious it was going to be Vince or was there a lot of swerves between that and the reveal? I know the Jake idea was thrown around at the time but were there other candidates? The Cosby Mysteries fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Mar 22, 2014 |
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Mar 22, 2014 13:26
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The other big candidate was The Jackyl, because he was always put over as a cult leader.
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Mar 22, 2014 13:29
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Personally I was annoyed because I liked the idea of Vince losing everything but becoming a better person/being in the "trenches" with his workers etc, and having him revealed as the big bad guy AGAIN just felt like,"Oh, it's THIS again." That said, I really dug the sheer size of the Corporate Ministry, I'm pretty sure it encompassed 99% of the WWF roster at one point.
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Mar 22, 2014 13:29
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All of the other ideas being floated around at the time (Ted Dibiase/Jake Roberts/The Jackyl/Brian Pillman having faked his death, you smart marks) were so much better.
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Mar 22, 2014 13:40
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The idea I heard was that they offered the role to Mick Foley, who turned it down. I'd have loved one last big time heel run for Foley, but he supposedly was uncomfortable with the religious implications of the angle and turned it down.
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Mar 22, 2014 14:00
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Even though Vince wasn't the best choice for the Higher Power role, he sold the gently caress out of that reveal. He looked like the devil himself as he went "IT'S ME AUSTIN!" with the most evil looking grin on his face. You could tell he was having a blast.
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Mar 22, 2014 14:13
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Justin Godscock's avatar reminded me of a question I've being meaning to ask. How well recieved was Vince being the Higher Power to you goons watching at the time? Was it pretty obvious it was going to be Vince or was there a lot of swerves between that and the reveal? I know the Jake idea was thrown around at the time but were there other candidates? The weirdest thing about the reveal was that the week before on Raw, the Higher Power briefly showed his face to a beaten-down Austin (and I think Austin actually mouthed "Vince, you son of a bitch"). Then, next week, Vince revealed himself to Austin ... despite already revealing himself to Austin. Even 15-year-old me had to say, "Uh, didn't Austin already know it was you?"
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Mar 22, 2014 15:18
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Justin Godscock's avatar reminded me of a question I've being meaning to ask. How well recieved was Vince being the Higher Power to you goons watching at the time? Was it pretty obvious it was going to be Vince or was there a lot of swerves between that and the reveal? I know the Jake idea was thrown around at the time but were there other candidates? Having Vince be the higher power was an unfortunate necessity. They had built it up to the point that the idea was greater than the actual person. Remember, the higher power was someone that had created this power stable of unconnected heels for the purpose of destroying Austin. This higher power was someone that the Undertaker answered to, so clearly it was someone that was either physically or psychologically imposing. Had it been a wrestler, it would have had to have been basically Flair or Hogan (1999 versions) to be believable if the higher power was going to wrestle. And a non wrestler that wasn't already introduced as a major player would have flopped. So it kinda sucked that the whole story line ended up making zero sense but they made the most of it.
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Mar 22, 2014 15:30
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DeathChicken posted:All of the other ideas being floated around at the time (Ted Dibiase/Jake Roberts/The Jackyl/Brian Pillman having faked his death, you smart marks) were so much better. Yeah, I was holding out the unrealistic hope that it was Ted or Jake.
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Mar 22, 2014 15:45
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All of that poo poo was only the problem it became because Vince Russo is a bad writer and had no idea where it was going when he started it
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Mar 22, 2014 15:55
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TL posted:One combination that never really clicked was Shawn Michaels and Curt Hennig. The hype for their match at SummerSlam 93 was "This will be the match of the year" and it was just ok. Also Michaels vs. Tito Santana at WM8. I think in Michaels' book, he mentioned how surprised and disappointed he was that they had no chemistry.
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Mar 22, 2014 18:11
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oatgan posted:All of that poo poo was only the problem it became because Vince Russo is a bad writer and had no idea where it was going when he started it The Undertaker's Hower Power is no match for oatgan's glower power! 
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Mar 22, 2014 19:16
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birdlaw posted:The Undertaker's Hower Power is no match for oatgan's glower power! I never thought I'd get to use this again after I sent it to AEPodcast when they talked about the Hower Power slip-up. 
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Mar 22, 2014 19:43
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oatgan posted:All of that poo poo was only the problem it became because Vince Russo is a bad writer and had no idea where it was going when he started it It's not like it was the first time it's been done. See the Survivor Series egg and the Black Scorpion.
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Mar 22, 2014 19:54
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Rusty Shackelford posted:It's not like it was the first time it's been done. See the Survivor Series egg and the Black Scorpion. Wasn't the Gobbledy Gooker always the plan with the egg, though? That was just a bad idea to begin with, I thought. They seriously thought people were going to go nuts for the Gooker.
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Mar 22, 2014 20:08
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What is Bard Maddox's avatar from? It looks like Dean Ambrose and a midget.
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Mar 22, 2014 20:30
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Defiance Industries posted:What is Bard Maddox's avatar from? It looks like Dean Ambrose and a midget.
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Mar 22, 2014 20:37
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This is still my favorite picture of all time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34tkresuPx8 
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Mar 22, 2014 20:49
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Pinstripe Hourglass posted:Wasn't the Gobbledy Gooker always the plan with the egg, though? That was just a bad idea to begin with, I thought. They seriously thought people were going to go nuts for the Gooker. They thought it would be big for the kids, like a mascot. They hired a big name independent guy at the time, Hector Guerrero, to be in the suit, it wasn't a random jobber. Vince seriously thought he would be the next big thing. And some guy known as Kane the Undertaker debuted at that show too.
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Mar 22, 2014 20:57
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Ambrose still looks like he wants to eat the back of Fakebrose's head.
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Mar 22, 2014 21:05
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Shima Honnou posted:Ambrose still looks like he wants to eat the back of Fakebrose's head. My favourite part is Seth's  expression.
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Mar 22, 2014 21:14
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DeathChicken posted:All of the other ideas being floated around at the time (Ted Dibiase/Jake Roberts/The Jackyl/Brian Pillman having faked his death, you smart marks) were so much better. At the time Eric Bischoff would give off Raw spoilers on Nitro. I remember him saying something like "oh, and the higher power on Raw? It's just Mick someone." I took that to be either Mick Foley or one of the McMahons. It made me wonder if it could possibly be Linda or Shane.
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Mar 23, 2014 00:18
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Luigi Thirty posted:They thought it would be big for the kids, like a mascot. They hired a big name independent guy at the time, Hector Guerrero, to be in the suit, it wasn't a random jobber. Vince seriously thought he would be the next big thing. Foley shared the idea that it might have originally been planned for Undertaker, but they changed their mind once they saw his potential.
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Mar 23, 2014 00:19
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VogeGandire posted:I never thought I'd get to use this again after I sent it to AEPodcast when they talked about the Hower Power slip-up. I've... seen things, you people wouldn't believe.
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Mar 23, 2014 04:31
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The Grey posted:At the time Eric Bischoff would give off Raw spoilers on Nitro. I remember him saying something like "oh, and the higher power on Raw? It's just Mick someone." Weird way of saying it.
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Mar 23, 2014 04:35
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LividLiquid posted:No, he got it right. As I remember, it was "Oh, and the guy in the hood? His initials are VM." plus I don't believe it was a spoiler, it was just a guess Bischoff made that turned out to be accurate
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Mar 23, 2014 04:45
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LividLiquid posted:No, he got it right. As I remember, it was "Oh, and the guy in the hood? His initials are VM." Vincent Moneybags!?!?
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Mar 23, 2014 04:46
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WadeBartender posted:plus I don't believe it was a spoiler, it was just a guess Bischoff made that turned out to be accurate It was a guess but he did present it as a spoiler (and he was relieved when it turned out to be right.)
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Mar 23, 2014 04:48
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