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Doctor Butts posted:Can you source this? I'd love to read more Page 10 of this brief.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:For the record, we also would have accepted variations on "any who run are Fixed.
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Talmonis posted:All poor Republicans are culture warriors who don't understand the issues they espouse. She also is ideologically opposed to most vaccines. Majorian posted:Is it mainly a pride thing for her, or is she just incredibly ideologically indoctrinated? (or lazy, that would work too) Severe anxiety issues, probably neurological since I'm a huge sperglord (as per psychiatrists, not self-diagnosis via the Internet) and our father is too. Probably didn't help that we're one generation removed from poor Maine white trash, so she got the brunt of that in her youth. I like quizzing my family whenever they start talking politics. Asking who the Speaker of the House is usually shuts them up. Or gets them yelling at me for being smug.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:
I don't get these pictures. Who is supposed to be the target audience? People who want the governor of Texas go all Platoon on children? Who is dumb enough to think that Perry would do that and if not, what is the purpose here again? If yes...aren't there also equally dumb people who yet manage to be anti-child murder and who are horrified by this?
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DarkCrawler posted:I don't get these pictures. Who is supposed to be the target audience? People who want the governor of Texas go all Platoon on children? Who is dumb enough to think that Perry would do that and if not, what is the purpose here again? If yes...aren't there also equally dumb people who yet manage to be anti-child murder and who are horrified by this? I was under the impression that this particular picture was not from today but from some random military photo op completely unrelated to the border issue. There's no way a sane individual would portray himself as prepared to literally gun down little children, after all! I... I'm wrong, aren't I? 
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DarkCrawler posted:I don't get these pictures. Who is supposed to be the target audience? People who want the governor of Texas go all Platoon on children? Who is dumb enough to think that Perry would do that and if not, what is the purpose here again? If yes...aren't there also equally dumb people who yet manage to be anti-child murder and who are horrified by this? Sometimes when men get old they feel a challenge to their virility and do dumb things like buy a sports car or shoot at children with a grenade launcher in an attempt to re-create their (wholly imagined) glory days. Takes a big man to unload grenades on some unarmed kids. Big strong man.
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Radish posted:I'm curious of the break down of up-voters that are in on the joke, literal Nazis, or people that don't realize they are agreeing with Nazis but are still incredibly racist. Or people clicking the link from here and upvoting it for laffs.
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Jul 22, 2014 20:22
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Pong Daddy posted:The only moral capitalism is my capitalism. Link to the comments? I don't see them when I load the article 
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comes along bort posted:Or people clicking the link from here and upvoting it for laffs. Yeah that's what I meant by in on the joke.
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Magres posted:Link to the comments? I don't see them when I load the article Toledo1488, Race Warrior, God-fearing American posted:This will not stand. We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.
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gradenko_2000 posted:That comment section added another entry to the Obummer vocabulary: OweBaMao Yes, Mac/Uroy is usually good for new names. I wonder what his Freep handle is Magres posted:Oh loving lord I figure some of you are thumbing it up, what's more impressive is I posted it 6 hours ago and it's still there; the moderators there usually strip out all offensive comments after an hour or two
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DarkCrawler posted:I don't get these pictures. Who is supposed to be the target audience? People who want the governor of Texas go all Platoon on children? Who is dumb enough to think that Perry would do that and if not, what is the purpose here again? If yes...aren't there also equally dumb people who yet manage to be anti-child murder and who are horrified by this? I suppose you could claim it is an attempt to scare away the children (children hiking through other countries and this don't have access to American news to see the pictures...) but really it is the usual "guns as a totemic symbol", "I am one of you, I am strong" bullshit
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iamnotcreative posted:Yes, Mac/Uroy is usually good for new names. I wonder what his Freep handle is I feel like it's juuuust subtle enough to slide if they don't know 1488 or that phrase. Like I can even see it  : Oh that's okay, it just says that white people shouldn't be exterminated! That's reasonable
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Ballz posted:There's no way a sane individual would portray himself as prepared to literally gun down little children, after all! Don't worry, to be prepared to gun down little children, he'd have to actually load the drat thing.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:
I like how he has the cap on backwards, like he's a loving sniper or something. This man has the smallest penis in the world.
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So what's this about the Supreme Court likely getting a case on the AHCA? Is it just sensationalism or does the whole thing now rest in the hands of our favorite 5-4 decision court?
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Majorian posted:I like how he has the cap on backwards, like he's a loving sniper or something. This man has the smallest penis in the world. Look at how he squints as he looks off into the distance. That is the look of a man pretending to keep an eye out for Luftwaffe patrols.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:
This... this is a photoshop, right? Perry didn't actually do a photo op of him preparing to gun down children. Lie to me if you have to.
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Hedera Helix posted:This... this is a photoshop, right? Perry didn't actually do a photo op of him preparing to gun down children. Lie to me if you have to. It is of him "defending" the borders but its from 2 years ago. https://www.facebook.com/r.php?fbpage_id=168578053240786&r=111
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Hedera Helix posted:This... this is a photoshop, right? Perry didn't actually do a photo op of him preparing to gun down children. Lie to me if you have to. I could have sworn I saw in some other thread that it's from an earlier photo op where he was out with the Texas National Guard or something, and not itself directly related to the refugee crisis, but I cannot now find where I thought I saw that. EDIT: Ah, that's where.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So what's this about the Supreme Court likely getting a case on the AHCA? Is it just sensationalism or does the whole thing now rest in the hands of our favorite 5-4 decision court? 4th Circuit and DC Circuit put out conflicting opinions on subsidies today. The case is whether or not people can receive subsidies on the federal exchange. A panel of 3 DC Circuit judges struck it down, but it should go to en banc, where the entire bench reviews it. The bench is 7-4 liberal, so the DC decision today should be reversed, which makes it less likely you'll see it at the Supreme Court.
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jackofarcades posted:4th Circuit and DC Circuit put out conflicting opinions on subsidies today. The case is whether or not people can receive subsidies on the federal exchange. Ok, so it's not "KEY OBAMACARE DECISION GOES TO SUPREME COURT" like CNN says. That's good I guess.
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jackofarcades posted:4th Circuit and DC Circuit put out conflicting opinions on subsidies today. The case is whether or not people can receive subsidies on the federal exchange. Well you can expect the plaintiffs to appeal in either case though, because it is who they are. In a sane world the SCOTUS would deny cert since there isn't an interesting constitutional question to decide and the circuit courts are in agreement. If they did agree to hear it then one would expect a simple reference to the limited role of the courts and to defer to congress in that the legislation is to be functional and let it stand. But we aren't in a sane world anymore. If we were, a piece of legislation that is reducing costs to people, increasing access to people, reducing the debt, and just all around making lives better wouldn't be getting challenged like this. Rooting for worse circumstances for actual people in the hope that it leads to better political outcomes for you is loving insane. This isn't disagreement on how to provide better circumstances for actual people. They don't have a plan. They just want to make the daily lives of regular folk worse because it means they might get power. Anyways, here is a read from WaPo that SCOTUSBlog is pushing. http://wapo.st/1paFpFp
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http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2014/07/21/cherry-bekaert-obamacare-having-negative-impact-on.html random poll of "employers" says they're already quote:About 83 percent of respondents believe Obamacare will continue to put upward pressure on medical plan costs I can't really find any information at all about the poll, though. FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jul 22, 2014 |
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Funny how social darwinism only applies to workers and not business owners. Also, why the gently caress should anyone care what an accounting firm as to say about public opinion? (I mean, I know the answer is because 'OBAMA BAD  ' but still)
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Shifty Pony posted:I want Warren to stay exactly where she is. The financial industry opposing her nomination for CFPB head only to have her end up on the Senate Banking Committee is just too drat perfect. I mostly don't want her in a position of power where her lovely opinions on Palestine can do extra damage (not there there are many alternatives)
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ok, so it's not "KEY OBAMACARE DECISION GOES TO SUPREME COURT" like CNN says. That's good I guess. It could go to the Supreme Court, and given that two appeals courts dropped disagreeing opinions on the topic, that's not an unreasonable assumption. And it could still very well go to the Supreme Court after an en banc hearing. wheez the roux posted:I mostly don't want her in a position of power where her lovely opinions on Palestine can do extra damage (not there there are many alternatives) Is there a viable Democratic Presidential candidate who is less pro-Israel in any notable way?
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Jackson Taus posted:Is there a viable Democratic Presidential candidate who is less pro-Israel in any notable way? Actually make that any possible/potential Democratic Presidential candidate, since viable is a very small pool even if Hillary and Biden decline to run.
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Jackson Taus posted:Is there a viable You used an extra word there. (That said, I still think Warren would make a terrible president - not because I think her policy goals are bad, just because she wouldn't be able to actually achieve much of what those goals are in the presidency.)
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FizFashizzle posted:http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2014/07/21/cherry-bekaert-obamacare-having-negative-impact-on.html Personal anecdote time! A an organization of roughly 300 employees that have healthcare coverage benefits, we self-insure and pay a BC/BS group to administer our coverage payout pool. We just locked in 2 years of no increases for our "HMO" plan and 6% increase for our "PPO" plan. This is in contrast to our previous yearly ~10% increase. As far as I can tell, Obamacare is helping.
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wheez the roux posted:I mostly don't want her in a position of power where her lovely opinions on Palestine can do extra damage (not there there are many alternatives) The Senate voted unanimously on that there is no one. Congress has garbage opinions on that issue. Warren can do more good where she is and no progressive can get through the primary without having to bend to big money,at least without massive grassroots efforts which will take longer than two years and needs to take place when the Dems have Congress on lockdown otherwise attempts to change it will be framed as helping Republicans and being idealists. So your choices at the moment are center left candidates and you want one with experience so Hillary or Biden.
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FizFashizzle posted:http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2014/07/21/cherry-bekaert-obamacare-having-negative-impact-on.html Why isn't it the automatic response of every person to this poll to say "gently caress those businesses"?
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wheez the roux posted:I mostly don't want her in a position of power where her lovely opinions on Palestine can do extra damage (not there there are many alternatives) For those who aren't aware, wheez the roux is parroting Greenwald et al's latest line of bullshit, attacking Warren for simultaneously being anti-Israel and being anti-Palestine. EG: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/490138373500469248 It's almost like people backed by multi billionaires will throw out any line possible to discredit someone who is taking the fight to them. 
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wheez the roux posted:I mostly don't want her in a position of power where her lovely opinions on Palestine can do extra damage (not there there are many alternatives) Meh. I'm much more focused on domestic issues, where I think Warren would be fantastic and add a lot to the conversation. Because Israel is becoming an apartheid state (some would argue it is already there) they are a problematic ally, I agree. Also, American support has turned Israel into a violent client-state in the ME, which is also not that great. Those are all bad. But, Jews have been a long-time ally of the left-wing both in America and abroad. Israel has become a major wedge-issue, especially among older Jewish voters (who still remember Israel's precarious beginnings) and serves to drive the Jewish electorate rightwards. Look a Lieberman. He was reliably pro-labor, pro-choice, pro-gay rights and while an ardent capitalist, he felt a strong social safety-net was the only way for a capitalist system to effectively operate. He certainly wasn't perfect, but on the issues I care most about he was, at worst, reasonable and was often pretty fantastic. His hawkish pro-Israel stance made his foreign policy pretty awful and it also poisoned some of his domestic issues (like spying, whistleblowing, etc.). I don't like those, but I can live with them. I don't want to undervalue their importance, they matter, but I'm more concerned about things like curbing the excesses of capitalism. Because of his foreign policy, Joe got pushed towards the Republicans and that tainted his domestic agenda. They whole thing is sad. While it would be great to avoid total Pentagonization, right now I view the American political landscape from a triage-perspective so I'm willing to let my hands get bloodier internationally if it means cleaner hands domestically. I know, I know, FYGM. It isn't that far a stretch from this to the crazies looking to shoot children. I'm aware of that and I try to be cautious. I'm not thrilled with the idea that dead Palestinians (and generations of Palestinians being kept in poverty) is the price we pay for keeping Florida a swing state, I'll take it. If it keeps a key demographic voting for Democrats, if not outright supporting leftist candidates while also keeping the Military-Industrial Complex and other financial overlords OK with the Democratic Party, well, that's a bitter pill I'll swallow. Not happy about it, but it is better than the alternative.
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