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That guy was on the track. I think Tony had to steer away and gas it; because he didn't realize how close Ward was, and because he was outside the #45 car. Tragedy happened.
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Gargoyle posted:So just to kill that whole logic off of murder charges or vehicular manslaughter or any of that, the other driver broke two rules of the sanctioning body. Uh, thats now how criminal charges work. You can't waive your right to not get killed.
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VikingSkull posted:like, I knew what to expect but I clicked the thread anyway
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Aug 10, 2014 12:28
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Cygni posted:Take a gander at your av you piece of loving poo poo. whoa now let's be easy I was referring to goons jumping the gun and posting irrational nonsense
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Aug 10, 2014 12:29
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Cubey posted:with a skirt that short she was just begging for it Possibly the worst counter argument I've ever seen.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:33
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VikingSkull posted:whoa now let's be easy What noise do you think the kids head made when it broke? was it *crunch*? Again, gently caress you.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:33
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this was one time where a fightin' mad driver keeping his helmet on was a good idea
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Aug 10, 2014 12:36
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Level1Wizard posted:That guy was on the track. I think Tony had to steer away and gas it; because he didn't realize how close Ward was, and because he was outside the #45 car. Tragedy happened. After watching Tony race in nascar, I know he goes high to low through turn four. I don't know if this is a stretch, but this is not out his racing style on oval tracks. Level1Wizard fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Aug 10, 2014 12:36
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you don't have a "style" on dirt you go where the grip is
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Aug 10, 2014 12:39
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VikingSkull posted:you don't have a "style" on dirt Tony put a guy in the wall and came around a lap later and finished him off im not seeing what your confusion is???
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Aug 10, 2014 12:40
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Harveygod posted:
Harvey, you do understand that the two cars didn't actually -hit- right? Tony went a little wide on the inside line, lap 14 of 25. Inside dries up as it's used in Dirt racing. The other car got pushed wide and instead of backing off mid corner and potentially losing 3-4 positions over the next few laps he risked it and hit the wall, doing significant damage to his car. As far as racing incidents go, it's a non-issue. poo poo there isn't even an incident. Tony had nothing to be 'worked up' over, or anything to be 'angry' or 'running his racecar into other people just because'. He has a good rep with the locals here, he races 3-4 times a year at all the local dirt tracks. People like him and he likes the people. So when he slowed up for the caution and started following the #45 I can believe that he wasn't expecting a human being to be right near the caution low line angrily stalking towards him. poo poo for all we know the 5 seconds it took for him to go from corner exit to backstretch he was looking at the car on the side of the road damaged. or the front stands. In Dirt racing you don't get out of your car and cause fights on the track. If you want to start something do it in the pits. It's taboo to cause trouble on track. Bowman Grey has started a trend in on-track fights. I hate it.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:41
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I've only seen him at Dover. I have been wishing for softer tires maybe until now.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:42
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Cygni posted:Uh, thats now how criminal charges work. You can't waive your right to not get killed. I'm going to run in front of a train and sue them because that train murdered the poo poo out of me. Am I doing it right now? I was just making angry gestures at the train and walking in front of it. There are rules Mr Cygni, when you break those rules you can't expect people to help you. Heres a little treat, you note how all news agencies are saying he was DOA at the hospital? Do you know why none of them are saying he was pronounced dead at the track? because then the track would be liable insurance wise and have to pay out money. So if he dies 'en route' to the hospital he simply has died from complications to racing, not racing itself thereby clearing the insurance of the Race Track. Yeah. Gotta love it.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:45
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he was more culpable for shattering a dudes face with a helmet in Australia and he only did a night in jail over that
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Aug 10, 2014 12:46
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Gargoyle posted:I'm going to run in front of a train and sue them because that train murdered the poo poo out of me. Well you can't sue them, because you'd be dead, just like kid that Tony Stewart murdered. Bringing a lawsuit is also a civil action, not a criminal one.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:49
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Gargoyle posted:Mr Cygni
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Aug 10, 2014 12:51
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Gargoyle posted:Harvey, you do understand that the two cars didn't actually -hit- right? Tony went a little wide on the inside line, lap 14 of 25. Inside dries up as it's used in Dirt racing. The other car got pushed wide and instead of backing off mid corner and potentially losing 3-4 positions over the next few laps he risked it and hit the wall, doing significant damage to his car.  ing the video. It doesn't seem like Tony acted with as much deliberation as the guy flailing wildly at the heavy equipment he's walking toward.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:52
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Jenna Fryer @JennaFryer 10m Tony Stewart will race today. With all due respect, dude can afford to miss this weekends race IMO.
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Aug 10, 2014 12:56
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Gargoyle posted:Do you know why none of them are saying he was pronounced dead at the track? Because EMTs can't pronounce? I mean your conspiracy theory is fun and cool but the more likely explanation is that there wasn't a doctor at the track to pronounce him dead. I don't know, do dirt tracks usually have a doctor on hand? One willing to unethicaly help the track avoid their insurance rates raising?
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FuzzySkinner posted:Jenna Fryer @JennaFryer 10m maybe he doesn't want to and feels the best way to deal with what is probably the biggest tragedy in his life is pushing forward
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Aug 10, 2014 12:59
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I'm not sure why nascar would let him race until the investigation is concluded. Doesn't make sense to me.
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Aug 10, 2014 13:10
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probably because everyone with half a brain already knows that Smoke didn't intentionally murder someone and the kid was an idiot for charging a field full of winding down sprint cars at night it was dumb luck that the car in front of Smoke didn't kill him, that guy missed him by inches
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Aug 10, 2014 13:13
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VikingSkull posted:maybe he doesn't want to and feels the best way to deal with what is probably the biggest tragedy in his life is pushing forward Was he pushing forward when he hit that kid and drug him through the turn? Excuse me while I don't feel sympathy for the murdering piece of poo poo.
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Aug 10, 2014 13:14
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VikingSkull posted:probably because everyone with half a brain already knows that Smoke didn't intentionally murder someone and the kid was an idiot for charging a field full of winding down sprint cars at night I'm sure there wasn't intent, at least not to kill him. However, I do think that until we know all the details and the police have fully investigated he should be suspended. That's just my opinion.
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Heathen posted:Was he pushing forward when he hit that kid and drug him through the turn? Excuse me while I don't feel sympathy for the murdering piece of poo poo. it's ok I hate Richard Petty for the same reason anotherblownsave posted:I'm sure there wasn't intent, at least not to kill him. However, I do think that until we know all the details and the police have fully investigated he should be suspended. That's just my opinion. it's entirely possible that while we don't know a ton, other people know more
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Theris posted:Because EMTs can't pronounce? I mean your conspiracy theory is fun and cool but the more likely explanation is that there wasn't a doctor at the track to pronounce him dead. There's no conspiracy here bru. Standard procedure for race tracks man. Also no poo poo EMT's cant pronounce, but Paramedics can. He was treated on the scene by a Paramedic. But yeah it's really easy to just say 'He died on the way to the hospital" because then you don't have liability and stuff to pay. .... I don't even know where you get conspiracy from... Whos conspiracy? ... Like I'm seriously worried now, what do YOU think happened? like, this is normal. They did this poo poo with Dale Earnhardt, Aryton Senna... list goes on and on and on and on. Sorry, wish I had some cool rear end conspiracy. Then I'd feel important. But I don't. Just have what normal people have :I EDIT: OH WAIT I GOT ONE Richard Petty once killed an 8 year old drag racing and hurt a bunch of people. So uh. poo poo help me out here guys... Somehow.... That means Tony Stewart will win the Championship this year? Yeah. We'll go with that. Gargoyle fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Aug 10, 2014 |
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Yup, every driver that has been killed at OCFS was pronounced DOA except the guys from way back when no one cared about that poo poo
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Gargoyle is my fav new poster who only posts really terrible wrong poo poo he tried to google. Like a loving paratrooper is gonna declare a body 5 minutes after it happens at a goddamn racetrack, honestly.
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Aug 10, 2014 13:36
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Glad to see we got some full force victim blaming going on here
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Fanhouse reporting thatquote:"Mr. Stewart has cooperated with the investigation, which is ongoing," http://www.sportingnews.com/nascar/...glen-kevin-ward Espn clarifies (using the AP story which is repeated around places like the times) that quote:Ontario County Sheriff Philip Povero said his department's investigation is not criminal.
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there was a bird called and then cancelled and he was transported by ambulance to be pronounced DOA he was dead at the track and everyone knew it yet they transported him to the hospital..... why would they do that?
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Holy loving hell if NASCAR lets Tony race today though.
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Somehow I can see Smoke being the kind of person who would just down enough Indiana corn whiskey before bed to numb himself of it to wake up with a clear enough conscience to race.
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kidcoelacanth posted:Holy loving hell if NASCAR lets Tony race today though. Innocent until proven a cold blooded murderer and all that
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Aug 10, 2014 13:50
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"how could NASCAR let someone involved in a fatal racing accident compete?" *makes up three dozen cards for a game whose entire premise hopes for carnage*
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I sincerely have a hard time believing that Stewart actually meant to kill somebody, but if they're not even doing criminal investigations then loving welp.
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Aug 10, 2014 13:53
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VikingSkull posted:"how could NASCAR let someone involved in a fatal racing accident compete?" Dude don't even try to shift it on to me with that avatar.
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kidcoelacanth posted:Dude don't even try to shift it on to me with that avatar. I knew I should have had a Dale Earnhardt themed avatar if I was gonna base it on racing deaths goddamnit
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Aug 10, 2014 13:56
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Everyone knows you have that av because you are butthurt you got run out of the ICS thread.
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Anyway I hope Allmendinger wins today
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