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JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy
Nick Fails is only good at throwing games

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JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy
ive been screaming boos at my tv since liks 115

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?
Hell Gem
So am I supposed to unvote Ixt?

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

Yo, I'm here. Yesterday was a busy day, and I just got back onto my computer.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Juanito posted:

So am I supposed to unvote Ixt?

No

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

JakeP posted:

ive been screaming boos at my tv since liks 115

Sanchize...SancHIZE! SANCHIZE. SANCHIZE!!!!

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

anime gently caress pillow posted:

Between the post I quoted a second ago and this one, I see two thoughts I can't see someone having.

His logic in the first post is that Lumpen is townie for trying to break the voting system. If anything, that would make Lumpen seem scummy to an outsider since it's a dangerous move for the thread ruler and is a lot of fluff that makes it seem like he's contributing. If he had said "the thoughtlessness of it makes him town" I'd get it, but he went a route that doesn't make sense.

In the post above, he claims he understands that it says nowhere that I cannot be lynched and that there are probably multiple ways to kill me, yet still he assumes I'm lynchproof simply because of the number of scum? Further, he uses it to defend Meinberg weakly. It's almost like he sees the Meinberg situation resolving itself and wants to have a stake in being right on both ends. It's non-content, and it's effectively all he has aside from the "lol whoops" when confronted on his defense of Lumpen.

Am I wrong here?

I condensed a lot of thinking into those few lines. Generally I try to explain my thought process leading up to the (if a bit tentative) conclusion.

To me, it seemed (at the time) weird that you'd not be lynchproof (though I based some of that on unreliable information from capps). I started out looking for a simple case on Meinberg, but convinced myself otherwise rather quickly. As an extension of that, I found 50s vote a bit too easy...

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


anime gently caress pillow posted:

Chaos, before you vanish, tell me your impressions of the following people (and it needn't be wordy): Dorkanoid, Ixtlilton, Lumpen, 50lbs

Dork: leaning scum
Ixt: lurker, hasn't posted in thread recently. Disinterested, not sure if scum or town
Lumpen: leaning town
50lbs: leaning town

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


anime gently caress pillow posted:

Also, Ranged or Melee?

Melee

chaoslord
Jan 28, 2009

Nature Abhors A Vacuum


Also I took Philly in my eliminator today so I feel yalls pain.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

chaoslord posted:

Dork: leaning scum
Ixt: lurker, hasn't posted in thread recently. Disinterested, not sure if scum or town
Lumpen: leaning town
50lbs: leaning town

Ixts meta is as town he posts and shares reads freely. As scum he withdraws and wishes he didn't sign up

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

chaoslord posted:

Also I took Philly in my eliminator today so I feel yalls pain.

lol this fool doesn't know how shameful and disapointing philly sports are

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

dorkanoid posted:

I condensed a lot of thinking into those few lines. Generally I try to explain my thought process leading up to the (if a bit tentative) conclusion.

To me, it seemed (at the time) weird that you'd not be lynchproof (though I based some of that on unreliable information from capps). I started out looking for a simple case on Meinberg, but convinced myself otherwise rather quickly. As an extension of that, I found 50s vote a bit too easy...

Since you are here, please post some reads and/or cases.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

JakeP posted:

Ixts meta is as town he posts and shares reads freely. As scum he withdraws and wishes he didn't sign up

I can confirm this. Ixt really dislikes playing scum, and so I'm fairly confident that once he became a target for today, he has decided not to engage in order to purposefully keep information disclosure to a minimum.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Mein, do you prefer dork or PM?

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

anime gently caress pillow posted:

Mein, do you prefer dork or PM?

I think dorkanoid is more likely to be scum. His "joke phase" vote and unvote feel very sketchy to me, like he put a vote on a target he thought was an easy target, but then unvoted once he realized there really wasn't any momentum behind it.

Reading PM, she seems very genuine to me.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg

Oh wow, I figured I'd gotten lynched reading the thread, but apparently there's like 8 hours left or something.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg

Anyway I moved yesterday and my power's been out and I think I still have to set up internet at my new apartment so lynch me or put me on the front line because I'm a fairly good melee fighter and I'm probably not going to start caring.

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

Meinberg posted:

I think dorkanoid is more likely to be scum. His "joke phase" vote and unvote feel very sketchy to me, like he put a vote on a target he thought was an easy target, but then unvoted once he realized there really wasn't any momentum behind it.

I unvoted 2 minutes later. Hardly any time for any momentum to build. How fast should I unvote to make it a clear joke vote?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Ixtlilton posted:

Anyway I moved yesterday and my power's been out and I think I still have to set up internet at my new apartment so lynch me or put me on the front line because I'm a fairly good melee fighter and I'm probably not going to start caring.

I'm very sorry if you're town, then.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg

Weeeeeee.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/09/05/powerful-storms-knock-out-power-across-michigan/15175885/

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

Puntification posted:

Since you are here, please post some reads and/or cases.

Meinberg posted:

Reading PM, she seems very genuine to me.

Last I read the thread I think PM had 4-5 posts, mostly joke phase.

I don't see how the posts since then are "genuine"; while I agree with

Pinterest Mom posted:

but yeah i agree re: fiddy's vote on meinberg, that looks precision-engineered to be a vote that sticks around unnoticed, only to be defended as "oh it was a joke vote i forgot to take off" after/if meinberg flips town.

there are just a few loose opinions, and an Ix vote based on the prompting by AFP, I have no problem with ##vote PM.

I note that the post quoted above had no vote attached, so I don't mind switching back to 22.7kg

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

General warning (though I doubt it matters): Deadline is something like 3 AM here, so I have to lock in my vote for the night in a few hours.

I'm very ranged, but I doubt that matters, too.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Ixt, I'm willing to move the vote if you put in the effort.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg

anime gently caress pillow posted:

Ixt, I'm willing to move the vote if you put in the effort.

Alright, I've got a couple hours, let me read the game more than just skimming.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

dorkanoid posted:

Last I read the thread I think PM had 4-5 posts, mostly joke phase.

I don't see how the posts since then are "genuine"; while I agree with


there are just a few loose opinions, and an Ix vote based on the prompting by AFP, I have no problem with ##vote PM.

I note that the post quoted above had no vote attached, so I don't mind switching back to 22.7kg

I really don't like how when asked to case someone you immediately target the person diqnol's Thunderdomed you with. It reeks of self-preservation.

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

Rarity posted:

I really don't like how when asked to case someone you immediately target the person diqnol's Thunderdomed you with. It reeks of self-preservation.

Well, a little bit, I must admit - but it was the quoted part of Meinberg's post that triggered me to read PM.

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

I also think Juanito is seeming to try to stay below the radar;

some soft town reads

Juanito posted:

I think Lumpen is town. And I've defended chaoslord in multiple games because his posts seem noob scummy (even though he's been town), but this time I really don't think he's town.

Also Meinberg seems like he's putting in more effort than usual on D1? Makes me think he could be scum.

Juanito posted:

I really don't know. His av looks evil, so there's that. One of his posts makes me think we should leave him alive? But I don't want to point it out..

no scum picks, no suspicion, just a weird vote sequence on Ixt:

Juanito posted:

##vote Ixt

he's at -1 now

Juanito posted:

Oh right

##unvote

Juanito posted:

##vote Ixt

sorry don't mind me, it's saturday and I'm tired

Juanito posted:

So am I supposed to unvote Ixt?
It seems a bit scummy to be so hesitant; there should be no culpability if Ixt is town since it was AFP who initiated it, so the only other thing I can think of is not wanting to overtly vote off a scumbuddy?

Would vote Juanito.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg

chaoslord reads kinda scummy to me and Lumpen cares so he's probably town. You could also dayvig me and create a mad scramble around deadline, that seems like it'd be pretty cool, Diqnol.

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe
I am appeased by dorkanoid's efforts and think pinterest is a better choice ##vote pinterest mom

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

I try, since I haven't been around long enough to have "can skip day 1" as my meta. :sigh:

dorkanoid
Dec 21, 2004

dorkanoid posted:

I try, since I haven't been around long enough to have "can skip day 1" as my meta. :sigh:

Not that I want to; this was a not-so-subtle lurker callout.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

dorkanoid posted:

Not that I want to; this was a not-so-subtle lurker callout.

Hm, let's take a look at the player with the lowest post count:

MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:

##vote Lumpen

My nemesis is Lumpen.

MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:

Sir, I would like to nominate myself as your Grand Vizier.

I will handle all of the plots and scheming so that you may focus on your glorious vision for Arrakis.

MEDS CURE SCHIZOS posted:

If we had a vote down prior to the formation of Lumpen's "Guys, let's all pinky promise not to vote anyone" plan, does that count?

What the hell Meds? You can't rally up to more than three posts over the entire course of this game?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Betrayer hasn't posted very much since I started playing mafia, just about. I'm hoping he comes in, goes "whoa" and steps it up or for the mods to replace him at this point. No fun lynching a guy with 3 posts.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Rarity posted:

I really don't like how when asked to case someone you immediately target the person diqnol's Thunderdomed you with. It reeks of self-preservation.

Self-preservation is fine, though. If you're town and you know you're town, it's better that the other guy get lynched than you, even blindly (0% chance of you being scum, ~25% of them being scum). In a situation where the options get artificially limited, you're going to want to throw the other guy under the bus.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

Deadline is coming up quick. Let's get some more discussion going, please. In about 2 hours I'm going to have to pick which of the two we lynch.

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

PM, do you want to make some cases?

Diqnol
May 10, 2010

I would like one more person to claim if they're Melee and one more person to claim if they're ranged. I have my lineup set, otherwise.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Pinterest Mom posted:

Self-preservation is fine, though. If you're town and you know you're town, it's better that the other guy get lynched than you, even blindly (0% chance of you being scum, ~25% of them being scum). In a situation where the options get artificially limited, you're going to want to throw the other guy under the bus.

I see where you're coming from but I'd still like dorkaoid to expand his reads to other players.

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Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

anime gently caress pillow posted:

I would like one more person to claim if they're Melee and one more person to claim if they're ranged. I have my lineup set, otherwise.

I am melee.

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