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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Just thought of how to make buy saga the best. Fighting candy
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While the Buu saga is my favorite, thanks to the titular villain, it really suffers from the post Freeza single antagonist setup, meaning that there is just a single villain for out heroes to fight. Without any henchman, really nobody but the main hero (read Goku) gets everything to do. I mean , let's not kid ourselves, with shounen it always comes down to main baddie vs main hero, but if said baddie has at least a couple of henchman, the rest of the cast gets something to do besides sideline cheering.
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Sep 16, 2014 14:11
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:It's still not worse than Goku. "Well looking back, I probably could have beaten Buu when I first fought him in Super Saiyan 3, but I wanted to give you all a turn!" To be fair, he never saw or felt Buu while angry (when his eyes open and steam comes out). He just saw the fat, goofy one. When angry, Fat Buu was probably somewhere near Super or something since he easily handled anyone around him (normally, he just let himself be beaten up or danced around and stuff); Super was basically him just always angry. In other words, Goku's opinion was hugely non-knowledgable in the Buu saga because he was KOed when the most important stuff happened, and didn't even know how SSJ3 worked.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:23
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Darko posted:To be fair, he never saw or felt Buu while angry (when his eyes open and steam comes out). He just saw the fat, goofy one. When angry, Fat Buu was probably somewhere near Super or something since he easily handled anyone around him (normally, he just let himself be beaten up or danced around and stuff); Super was basically him just always angry. On the other hand, this poo poo was so serious the god of gods was begging for help and Buu had already taken out cities. Hell, he even convinces Buu to slip off the leash and go do what he wants. Yeah, he wasn't really that informed, but it was more his inherent Goku-ness that lead to horrible decision making.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:36
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And it's not like he hasn't already seen villains get powerups beyond expectations.
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Darko posted:To be fair, he never saw or felt Buu while angry (when his eyes open and steam comes out). He just saw the fat, goofy one. When angry, Fat Buu was probably somewhere near Super or something since he easily handled anyone around him (normally, he just let himself be beaten up or danced around and stuff); Super was basically him just always angry. Fat Buu was just Super Buu without being childish, goofy and honestly fairly docile.
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Sep 16, 2014 23:47
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Did Goku say something different in the anime or is there another spot where he says he could have won? In the Viz Manga(which had some weird localization) after Goku returns to the tower after showing off SSJ3, Piccolo asks Goku "Couldn't you have beaten Boo if you'd fought with all you had at Level 3? Why didn't you?" To which Goku responds "I dunno, Boo's mighty strong...I don't think I could've", before going into the spiel about the the kids being the ones to have a try.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:21
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In retrospect, I can't say I ever really liked Goku. I just never really could get into the guy's mindset compared to everyone around him. (Even Vegeta, who is an archetype I'm usually not fond of.) I think I like the Buu saga the least not because it's silly but because a big chunk of it is spent on Goku and Mini-Goku.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:27
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They call him Boo in the Viz manga?
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ImpAtom posted:In retrospect, I can't say I ever really liked Goku. I just never really could get into the guy's mindset compared to everyone around him. (Even Vegeta, who is an archetype I'm usually not fond of.) I think I like the Buu saga the least not because it's silly but because a big chunk of it is spent on Goku and Mini-Goku. Goku isn't very likeable through a lot of DBZ, but he's a lot better in Dragonball.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:37
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Cozz posted:Did Goku say something different in the anime or is there another spot where he says he could have won? In the Viz Manga(which had some weird localization) after Goku returns to the tower after showing off SSJ3, Piccolo asks Goku "Couldn't you have beaten Boo if you'd fought with all you had at Level 3? Why didn't you?" To which Goku responds "I dunno, Boo's mighty strong...I don't think I could've", before going into the spiel about the the kids being the ones to have a try. At the end of the anime, when they're fighting Kid Buu, Goku admits he totally could have handled this the first time he fought him, but now they might be hosed.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:42
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SALT CURES HAM posted:They call him Boo in the Viz manga? They do. They also call Goku "Son" for some panels, which is weird as well. Lumberjack Bonanza posted:At the end of the anime, when they're fighting Kid Buu, Goku admits he totally could have handled this the first time he fought him, but now they might be hosed. Ah, I found the manga panel where he says the same thing. Well, Goku is an idiot.
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Sep 17, 2014 00:47
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:At the end of the anime, when they're fighting Kid Buu, Goku admits he totally could have handled this the first time he fought him, but now they might be hosed. Well, at least Gohan proved it was genetic
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Sep 17, 2014 00:50
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Cozz posted:They do. They also call Goku "Son" for some panels, which is weird as well. Bulma calls him Son almost exclusively in the original text.
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Sep 17, 2014 01:06
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SALT CURES HAM posted:They call him Boo in the Viz manga? viz's translation uses all the lovely weeb names
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Sep 17, 2014 01:16
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To be fair it isn't like Boo is really off considering the dude was created by Bibbidi and Babbidi.
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Sep 17, 2014 01:17
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KoB posted:Bulma calls him Son almost exclusively in the original text. I didn't know that. I should have mentioned that the "Son" that stood out for me was Tien talking about him when he was going SSJ3.
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Sep 17, 2014 01:23
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Dred Cosmonaut posted:viz's translation uses all the lovely weeb names Vegerot
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Sep 17, 2014 01:34
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The world may never know where the "ito" in Vegito comes from.
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Vegita and Goku 
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It's Vegetto. Vegeta + Kakarotto. Vegeta has precedent in the body and thus would refer to his counterpart by his "real" name that he's used to calling him. Esroc fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Sep 17, 2014 |
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Sep 17, 2014 02:37
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Yeah but then it got translated to Vegito http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Vegito Also, there is an entire wiki dedicated to Dragonball. Huh.
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Sep 17, 2014 02:40
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carry on then posted:Yeah but then it got translated to Vegito http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Vegito Are you really surprised? There's an entire wiki dedicated to everything. There's a wiki for Mario fanfiction.
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Sep 17, 2014 02:41
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carry on then posted:Yeah but then it got translated to Vegito http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Vegito If that's remarkable to you, for the love of god, don't seek out the Star Wars one.
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Sep 17, 2014 02:57
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:On the other hand, this poo poo was so serious the god of gods was begging for help Supreme Kai: THE FATE OF THE UNIVERSE is more important than your egos! Please don't fight each other right now and awaken the unstoppable killing machine! Goku: Let's fight each each other right now, Vegeta. See, this is why I can't hate Supreme Kai. Wimpy or not, he's at least less stupid than our actual protagonists. Some Numbers posted:Goku isn't very likeable through a lot of DBZ, but he's a lot better in Dragonball. This is possibly the single greatest reason I think DB is a truly good piece of fiction compared to Z. Kid Goku was a very endearing and fun protagonist. I enjoyed following him in a way I never enjoyed watching Adult Goku.
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Sep 17, 2014 03:29
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:If that's remarkable to you, for the love of god, don't seek out the Star Wars one. The only thing you need to know about it is that this page exists.
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Sep 17, 2014 04:33
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NikkolasKing posted:Supreme Kai: THE FATE OF THE UNIVERSE is more important than your egos! Please don't fight each other right now and awaken the unstoppable killing machine! Telling a saiyan to not fight is not a very bright move, he should have know better.
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Sep 17, 2014 04:38
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NikkolasKing posted:Supreme Kai: THE FATE OF THE UNIVERSE is more important than your egos! Please don't fight each other right now and awaken the unstoppable killing machine! Goku: Also, I'm going to invalidate the entire fight a couple of chapters later by revealing that I have a brand new transformation that could have defeated Vegeta's Majin form in a millisecond. Probably could have skipped that entire ordeal if I had let Vegeta know ahead of time he stood no chance against me even if he sold his soul to Babidi.
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Sep 17, 2014 04:45
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Haha you think that would stop Vegeta.
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Zonekeeper posted:Goku: Also, I'm going to invalidate the entire fight a couple of chapters later by revealing that I have a brand new transformation that could have defeated Vegeta's Majin form in a millisecond. Probably could have skipped that entire ordeal if I had let Vegeta know ahead of time he stood no chance against me even if he sold his soul to Babidi. But he didn't want to make Vegeta feel bad! 
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Sep 17, 2014 04:57
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BlitzBlast posted:Haha you think that would stop Vegeta. Vegeta probably would have tried it himself.
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Sep 17, 2014 05:00
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As others said, you think Vegeta gives a poo poo if someone is more powerful than him? He is one persistent rear end bastard. Hell he took on perfect cell and didn't stop until he was nearly out of energy. IN short: Vegeta don't give a gently caress. 
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Sep 17, 2014 05:27
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The only thing you need to know about it is that this page exists. Why is this a thing. Why.
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Sep 17, 2014 06:37
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:But he didn't want to make Vegeta feel bad! It also doesn't help that if he'd one shot Vegeta it probably would have had more or less the same effect of filling up Buu's charge since its based on damage done... or something.
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Sep 17, 2014 06:44
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Why is this a thing. People who edit Wookiepedia earnestly need to record these things, so they don't forget.
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Sep 17, 2014 06:46
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Caros posted:It also doesn't help that if he'd one shot Vegeta it probably would have had more or less the same effect of filling up Buu's charge since its based on damage done... or something. Actually, the person with the Majin mark had to be the one doing the damage I believe. So if SSJ3 Goku oneshots Vegeta, it would have done nothing.
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Sep 17, 2014 06:49
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Why is this a thing. They had to make sure it was better than Memory Alpha's page on them, obviously. I'm not joking.
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Sep 17, 2014 07:02
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StrifeHira posted:They had to make sure it was better than Memory Alpha's page on them, obviously. See, now that just leads to another resounding "Why" and also a hearty "What the gently caress". Throw in a serving of "How the hell" for good measure.
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Shindragon posted:As others said, you think Vegeta gives a poo poo if someone is more powerful than him? He is one persistent rear end bastard. Not only that, but he's got battle wisdom out the wazoo with no qualms about fighting dirty. Watching him ruin Beerus for fifteen seconds with the rudest dragon combo this side of the Strongest in the Heavens tournament was magic on the silver screen I mean it didn't really amount to anything in the end, but it was also pretty sweet so
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Why is this a thing. There is an entire Japanese wiki dedicated to cataloging nipple shots in non-pornographic anime. All of them. http://chikubiwiki.wiki.fc2.com/
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