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Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

infernal machines posted:

it was after while it was imaged. i guess if you count the fbi admin, then yes.

basically sr2.0 was hosed before it even launched.

i'm still wondering why the gently caress this guy had supplier lists on his laptop, let alone in plaintext.

tor hides everything :smug:

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



infernal machines posted:

it was after while it was imaged. i guess if you count the fbi admin, then yes.

basically sr2.0 was hosed before it even launched.

i'm still wondering why the gently caress this guy had supplier lists on his laptop, let alone in plaintext.

So if he was ever caught he could bargain with the feds, so much for that plan!

faxlore
Sep 24, 2014

a blue star tattoo for you!

post ur bitcoin billionaire scores

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
literally every time i read "bitcoin billionaire" i hear the dulcet tones of fragmaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3npKQHo48E

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Boxturret posted:

bioshock is a p good game

Oh so that's what the hell that one guy's avatar is.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

jony ive aces posted:

literally every time i read "bitcoin billionaire" i hear the dulcet tones of fragmaster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3npKQHo48E

art

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
a libertarian guy I knew on Facebook just posted a link to a Washington post article regarding the silk road 2.0 shutdown :

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-drug-markets/

quote:

When it comes to the darknet economy, the general law enforcement impulse seems to be "shut everything down." But as Conor Friedersdorf noted at the Atlantic last year, there's a strong argument to be made that shutting down darknet sites makes the world more dangerous overall. For starters, the emphasis on quality means that darknet purchasers are getting purer, safer product than they would otherwise. This would lead to lower harm and loss of life due to ingesting adulterated drugs.

I've never been to the website but they also sell poo poo other than drugs, right? so the government is just supposed to ignore that other crap, then? i don't think I've ever heard of an honest "think of the safety of the junkies" defense before :stare:

HyperPuma
Jun 24, 2007

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but trump is president

Ripoff posted:

i don't think I've ever heard of an honest "think of the safety of the junkies" defense before :stare:

heroin was decriminalized in spain or some poo poo and its been really effective in harm reduction and recovery

i think they even give you a dose if you go to their treatment centers

Samsquamsch
Jun 6, 2011

Mexican touchdown, Mexican touchdown, Mexican touchdooooown!

HyperPuma posted:

heroin was decriminalized in spain or some poo poo and its been really effective in harm reduction and recovery

i think they even give you a dose if you go to their treatment centers

Portugal, they actually decriminalized all drugs and it's working out for them.

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

Ripoff posted:

a libertarian guy I knew on Facebook just posted a link to a Washington post article regarding the silk road 2.0 shutdown :

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-drug-markets/


I've never been to the website but they also sell poo poo other than drugs, right? so the government is just supposed to ignore that other crap, then? i don't think I've ever heard of an honest "think of the safety of the junkies" defense before :stare:

the answer to "safety for junkies" is not "allow an unmitigated exchange of illicit things in an unregulated environment"

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Ripoff posted:

a libertarian guy I knew on Facebook just posted a link to a Washington post article regarding the silk road 2.0 shutdown :

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...e-drug-markets/


I've never been to the website but they also sell poo poo other than drugs, right? so the government is just supposed to ignore that other crap, then? i don't think I've ever heard of an honest "think of the safety of the junkies" defense before :stare:

purer, safer child porn

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Improbable Lobster posted:

purer, safer child porn

hate to break it to you but that's one of the go-to reasons paedophiles use to call for the legalisation of child porn

a cyberpunk goose
May 21, 2007

goddamnedtwisto posted:

hate to break it to you but that's one of the go-to reasons paedophiles use to call for the legalisation of child porn

had a EE iron ring dude at my last job get all bleep bloop about this to me

another guy who works there who is also an iron ring haver has fuckin Strike Witches episodes on his desktop and the very few times i talked to him about dumb anime poo poo he seemed to have a peculiar fondness for shows that feature underage fan service consistently

0/10 would not trust these people with my kids

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Mido posted:

iron ring

is that so you can feel the weight of your responsibility against your balls as you jerk it to underage anime

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

Mido posted:

the answer to "safety for junkies" is not "allow an unmitigated exchange of illicit things in an unregulated environment"

also safety for junkies isnt something these agencies give a gently caress about. their charters and funding are intended to enforce the laws on the books, and if the laws dont mandate that they focus on addict harm they probably wont except in isolated and exceptional cases.

theres also financial incentives to make big busts. our hosed up drug war laws allow these agencies ridiculous leeway in asset seizure for drug related crimes. just look at how much they got auctioning only part of the sr 1.0 bitcoin stash to mr six californias, and iirc that money doesnt all go into general funds either, the agencies get to keep some or all of it. doubt any of these agencies put addict harm ahead of headlines trumpeting $X million seized

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Samsquamsch posted:

Portugal, they actually decriminalized all drugs and it's working out for them.

idgaf if you want to crush up vicodin and inject it into your balls on your own time, it makes literally no difference to my life. however, letting literally anyone create and sell drugs online sounds like a shittastic idea. in short:

Mido posted:

the answer to "safety for junkies" is not "allow an unmitigated exchange of illicit things in an unregulated environment"

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
i know i'm going to regret asking this but what does this "iron ring" thing mean

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Heresiarch posted:

i know i'm going to regret asking this but what does this "iron ring" thing mean

The Iron Ring is a ring worn by many Canadian-trained engineers, as a symbol and reminder of the obligations and ethics associated with their profession.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Samsquamsch posted:

Portugal, they actually decriminalized all drugs and it's working out for them.

Yeah, not only is drug use down but violent crime is way down.

That said, decriminalize is not the same as legalize or even deregulate

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
oh i thought it was going to be some kind of mra bullshit

although the overlap is probably significant

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Improbable Lobster posted:

The Iron Ring is a ring worn by many Canadian-trained engineers, as a symbol and reminder of the obligations and ethics associated with their profession.

Specifically, once upon a time an engineer didn't take his responsibilities seriously, okayed a shitastic bridge and got a bunch of people killed. According to the tradition, the professional engineers of the time decided it was a sign that a more formal oath of practice was needed and took some of the iron nuts from the wreckage as rings to mark the responsibility engineering has to make sure things are safe.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Heresiarch posted:

oh i thought it was going to be some kind of mra bullshit

although the overlap is probably significant

There's probably a website somewhere devoted to iron ring conspiracies if you look hard enough

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

QuarkJets posted:

Yeah, not only is drug use down but violent crime is way down.

I'm legit interested in this, any good sources out there?

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
i have a tumblr just so i can follow a few people, i don't post anything. one of those people is bruce sterling:

quote:

So “Defcon” and “Dread Pirate Roberts” are both in custody now, and though the world’s not running out of kamikaze libertarian Texans, that makes two of them.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Specifically, once upon a time an engineer didn't take his responsibilities seriously, okayed a shitastic bridge and got a bunch of people killed. According to the tradition, the professional engineers of the time decided it was a sign that a more formal oath of practice was needed and took some of the iron nuts from the wreckage as rings to mark the responsibility engineering has to make sure things are safe.

yo, that username and avatar and title all loving own

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Weatherman posted:

I'm legit interested in this, any good sources out there?

Yeah I used Google and found some

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
DEAR ROBOCOIN OPERATOR JORDAN KELLY IS TRYING TO gently caress YOU


so why is the robocoin ceo trying to "gently caress you"? well it turns out that anonymous bitcoin atms are illegal so he's forcing an update to make them collect customer info, all robocoin atms not updated no longer work

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


QuarkJets posted:

Yeah I used Google and found some

post them such that we may throw pennies at you as tips.

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.
oh yeah and :rip: http://www.wired.com/2014/11/operation-onymous-dark-web-arrests/

wired posted:

When “Operation Onymous” first came to light yesterday, it looked like a targeted strike against a few high value targets in the Dark Web drug trade. Now the full scope of that international law enforcement crackdown has been revealed, and it’s a scorched-earth purge of the Internet underground.

On Friday, the European police agency Europol along with the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security announced that the operation has now arrested 17 people in as many countries and seized hundreds of Dark Web domains associated with well over a dozen black market websites. In addition to the takedowns of drug markets Silk Road 2, Cloud 9 and Hydra revealed Thursday, it’s also busted contraband markets like Pandora, Blue Sky, Topix, Flugsvamp, Cannabis Road, and Black Market. Other takedown targets included money laundering sites like Cash Machine, Cash Flow, Golden Nugget and Fast Cash. And agents have taken from criminal suspects more than $1 million in bitcoin, $250,000 in cash, as well as an assortment of computers, drugs, gold, silver and weapons that they had yet to fully catalogue.

In all, the agency says it’s seized 414 “.onion” domains, the web addresses used by the anonymity software Tor that hides the physical location of those sites’ servers.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

do you think they'll go after the people on reddit who were wondering if their orders would be fulfilled? or are they just going after the people who run the sites that make connections between buyers and sellers?

Malloc Voidstar
May 7, 2007

Fuck the cowboys. Unf. Fuck em hard.

prefect posted:

do you think they'll go after the people on reddit who were wondering if their orders would be fulfilled?
unless they're like "i ordered $5000 worth of coke on 11/4/2014 order #125821491 is it going to arrive??" i personally doubt it, since it's a lot of police money to spend for an unlikely bust

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


laffo

i'm guessing either these idiots hire anyone who wants to join or there's a lot of loving bugs in the tor website thing because that is quite the haul

jony ive aces
Jun 14, 2012

designer of the lomarf car


Buglord
the feds probably offered to start the wiki

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

jony ive aces posted:

the feds probably offered to start the wiki

defcon: so, uh, who here in this room knows how to edit a wiki
not-a-fed: *raises paw* me me me me
defcon: ok! ur in... wait, ur not really a federal agent, right, u havfta tell me these things
defcon: it's in the constitution
not-a-fed: lol of course not
defcon: good :) let me email you the private keys to the server
not-a-fed: sweet

Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

Improbable Lobster posted:

yo, that username and avatar and title all loving own

thanks, it was a group effort from itt a little while ago, I only put up the :10bux:

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out

Ron Paul Atreides posted:

Specifically, once upon a time an engineer didn't take his responsibilities seriously, okayed a shitastic bridge and got a bunch of people killed. According to the tradition, the professional engineers of the time decided it was a sign that a more formal oath of practice was needed and took some of the iron nuts from the wreckage as rings to mark the responsibility engineering has to make sure things are safe.

And they asked Rudyard Kipling to write them an oath.

I wish we had that in the US because it would make it easier to spot people who take being an engineer too seriously.

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

they need a ring to remind them of their "one job" I guess

GameCube
Nov 21, 2006

Aleksei Vasiliev posted:

DEAR ROBOCOIN OPERATOR JORDAN KELLY IS TRYING TO gently caress YOU


so why is the robocoin ceo trying to "gently caress you"? well it turns out that anonymous bitcoin atms are illegal so he's forcing an update to make them collect customer info, all robocoin atms not updated no longer work

lol this is the same guy who had to be shamed into refunding a guy via reddit.

neutral milf hotel
Oct 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Werthog 95 posted:

lol this is the same guy who had to be shamed into refunding a guy via reddit.

you say it like it's a bad thing

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Ron Paul Atreides
Apr 19, 2012

Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

PleasureKevin posted:

they need a ring to remind them of their "one job" I guess

it's mostly that Canada used to be and still is full of really shady people, as the British had yet to develop scammer tags.

(I also think it ties into when legislation officially made it the engineer's fault if people died because of his/her negligence)

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