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 Inept translation: "The sex slaves of Boko Haram are angry" "Don't touch our child benefit!" (i.e. welfare payment for having children) Je suis Charlie  I absolutely condemn the killings and do not believe anyone at Charlie Hebdo should have been murdered in cold blood. I support their right to free speech. Don't expect me, though, to stand in solidarity with a bunch of smug loving white-boy racists exploiting that right to free speech to be unrelenting assholes.
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no no but qm haven't you heard this thread is for saying "murder bad, people have a free speech" 
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Jan 8, 2015 06:45
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:so brave  #jesuisAWyattMann
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Quantum Mechanic posted:
Holy poo poo pics for the pic thread  
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Those On My Left posted:no no but qm haven't you heard You don't have to agree with everything or anything Hebdo has ever published to stand in solidarity with them for the right to publish it.
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Those using this massacre as an opportunity to criticize Charlie Hebdo's content remind me of the folks who, on the third Monday of January each year, like to point out Martin Luther King, Jr. cheated on his wife.
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420 Gank Mid posted:You don't have to agree with everything or anything Hebdo has ever published to stand in solidarity with them for the right to publish it. Yep. No one on this good small planet has the right to not be offended. For American sensibilities of the right or left:  https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-speech-lgbt-rights/why-fred-phelpss-free-speech-rights-should-matter-us-all Are you offended? If so, it's on you. Otteration fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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Jan 8, 2015 08:07
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Typical of the D&D hivemind to support raping and eating live infants.  
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ElMaligno posted:needs a "pretends to be black" space imo The guy in D&D who was pretending to be black hated SJWs though
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Jan 8, 2015 09:54
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Glad I watched this, the stuff he brings up about intellectual property being inherently "communist" in the sense that it seems to be resistant to economic controls and wants to be "free" has been on my mind for a while.
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 This Charlie Hebdo thing has no more to do with Islam than a burka does. It's about bitter assholes looking for whatever excuse they can, so they can justify to what is left of their soul, that they are murdering people, because they are angry at the world. Nitpicking through religious texts until you find the excuse you're looking for doesn't make you religious.
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Why it's almost as if saying "I am <whatever>" were an empty statement expressing at best a vague sentiment without any deeper rationalization or line of thought carried to it's logical end. "I support the freedom for people to publish opinions and views, even if I might vehemently disagree with them or find them offensive or in bad taste" is a bit too nuanced and wordy for a sound-byte; but it's not necessary to imply that anyone expressing glib support for Charlie Hebdo's content rather than an instinctual (and let's face it, morally correct) revulsion at the attacks.
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Hubis posted:Why it's almost as if saying "I am <whatever>" were an empty statement expressing at best a vague sentiment without any deeper rationalization or line of thought carried to it's logical end. "I support the freedom for people to publish opinions and views, even if I might vehemently disagree with them or find them offensive or in bad taste" is a bit too nuanced and wordy for a sound-byte; but it's not necessary to imply that anyone expressing glib support for Charlie Hebdo's content rather than an instinctual (and let's face it, morally correct) revulsion at the attacks. To take the more extreme example, Americans might agree that you shouldn't attack a KKK member at their rally, but they wouldn't stand around with "I am the KKK" signs afterward. Young woman defends Klansman from attack: 
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mlmp08 posted:To take the more extreme example, Americans might agree that you shouldn't attack a KKK member at their rally, but they wouldn't stand around with "I am the KKK" signs afterward. I would have used Lou Dobbs as an example, but yeah same idea. 
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Speaking of stupid, here's a polandball
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Wheeee posted:Where's the B12 supplements? Hope they enjoy their brain literally decaying. That may be "a hell of a lot of grains and fruits grown using petrochemical-intensive industrial agriculture.......", but it took half to 2/3 the "petrochemicals, deforestation and slave labour" to produce than an average meat-eater's daily food consumption does.  If you can suggest what people who choose not to eat animal products can do to further reduce the damage to society and the environment caused by the consumption of their daily caloric requirements , I'm sure that they'd be interested to hear. But, given that not eating animal products is already the biggest such change that one can make, there's not much space for individuals to make an improvement, aside from becoming a subsistence farmer. And who said that veganism "attacks Industrial agriculture/corporate-owned government" at all, let alone with your subsequent spurious qualifiers? What happened to reducing unnecessary animal suffering? Did a vegan upset you one time? Maybe you should get therapy? The B12 supplements are included on the chart*, by the way. Maybe you didn't understand it. You might want to have your blood tested in case your brain is literally decaying, since upwards of 39% of meat-eaters may have B12 deficiency. http://www.ars.usda.gov/is/pr/2000/000802.htm [*not that I agree with the chart in general] Rand alPaul posted:That is so much loving food. Here is half a cup of grains. No, that's 2/3 of a cup of uncooked grains, which is 1.5-2 cups cooked. Vegans tend not to eat uncooked rice, you know.
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Comparing Charlie Hebdo to the KKK does not only feel like a cop-out way to say "...but they were racists", it also shows an absolute ignorance of what the paper is, and what it stands for. I'd also like to point out that saying they somehow deserved it, or should have expected it because they made fun of muslims(amongst others) is downright insulting to the vast majority of muslims who doesn't go around killing cartoonists and writers. It's a also a million times more damaging to them than anything CH ever did, as it drills them up as this "other" that you shouldn't ever taunt or make fun of, or you'll end up dead.  Anyway, I'm reading reports of mosques being attacked after the attack. The people perpetrating these attacks are loving cockroaches, I remember them attacking and defacing mosques in Britain and Germany before the corpses were cold, and the news were out, during the Breivik attacks here in Norway. These people are scumbags looking for any confirmation to their biases, real or fake they don't care, and I hope the lot of them are caught and locked up. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Jan 8, 2015 |
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mlmp08 posted:To take the more extreme example, Americans might agree that you shouldn't attack a KKK member at their rally, but they wouldn't stand around with "I am the KKK" signs afterward. Hahahahaha I love this loving thread
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hate pants posted:Hahahahaha I love this loving thread Agreed this thread owns. Also if you couldn't tell I was taking a laughably hard line to illustrate the gist of the argument, lol. How about this: if breitbart or the blaze or some other publication I disagree with got attacked I'd condemn the attack but wouldn't say "I am blank" 
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mlmp08 posted:Agreed this thread owns. Also if you couldn't tell I was taking a laughably hard line to illustrate the gist of the argument, lol. How about this: if breitbart or the blaze or some other publication I disagree with got attacked I'd condemn the attack but wouldn't say "I am blank" I could tell and it was stupid. By comparing Charlie Hebdo to American conservatives you're showing that you have no loving clue what you're talking about.
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hate pants posted:I could tell and it was stupid. By comparing Charlie Hebdo to American conservatives you're showing that you have no loving clue what you're talking about. Please provide me with a list of all speech you will permit humans to compare with Charlie hebdo so that I may find one I dislike and make exactly the same point.  I am free speech.
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You realize that these people are dead right edit: also Charlie were far from right wing. You don't know anything about the history of French satire or Charlie's place in it
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Jan 8, 2015 16:23
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^post a picture, idiot I only wish I didn't have to default to being a racist twat just because I'm anti-murder. 
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hate pants posted:You realize that these people are dead right Literally none of these words have a thing to do with my point, and yes I know they aren't right wing. Maybe you're just bad at understanding words, such as the ones that say this thread is for images. 
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mlmp08 posted:Literally none of these words have a thing to do with my point, and yes I know they aren't right wing. Maybe you're just bad at understanding words, such as the ones that say this thread is for images. I'm sorry what about them exactly do you disagree with? Is it that they mock religion - all religion? Because your point about the kkk or breitbart or whatever is still incredibly stupid if that's the case.
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I'm not sure if looking at political satire outside of its context and in a language that is not your own is the best way to judge it. 
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hate pants posted:I'm sorry what about them exactly do you disagree with? Is it that they mock religion - all religion? Because your point about the kkk or breitbart or whatever is still incredibly stupid if that's the case. His point was that you can condemn attacks without supporting the message of the victims. You know, because people have a right to not be attacked for having lovely views. The cartoons seem pretty racist with no context. And a lot of them still seem pretty racist knowing that its intended to be satire of racists
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What is the message that you don't support?
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hate pants posted:What is the message that you don't support? pussy riot police posted:The cartoons seem pretty racist with no context. And a lot of them still seem pretty racist knowing that its intended to be satire of racists God drat son.
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Look, before you talk about how Hebdo published racist, disagreeable cartoons, I just have to make sure: Do you agree with me that murder is bad? Yes or no. We can't move forward with this argument until you agree with me, that shooting people is Bad.
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