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Civilized Fishbot posted:Don't worry, it'll also get a spinoff a year after ending, entitled The Pryce is Right. I'd watch at least the first season of this 
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:They should call what comes after TWD "The Laughing Dead," because watching grown adults discuss that clowncar of melodrama like it was "Death of a Salesman" is hilarious. But that doesn't rhyme. "The Chuckling Dead"?
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Feb 18, 2015 05:23
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That doesn't rhyme either.
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Wafflecopper posted:That doesn't rhyme either. Well, it's closer to one. 
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mabels big day posted:is the podcast for this episode up yet
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Blazing Ownager posted:Saul specifically introduces Walter to Gus, and seems to know Gus pretty well at least, to his personality and behavior. Saul claims not to have ever met Gus, or even to know exactly what he looks like. He could be lying, but I'm not sure why Saul would have gotten involved with Gus, since Saul's partnership with Walt seems to be his first major foray into the meth game.
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My impression is that Mike could be working for Gus now and is only using the parking job as cover. My guess is that Mike only told Saul that he knows a guy, that knows a guy that knows who the meth king pin of ABQ is.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:My impression is that Mike could be working for Gus now and is only using the parking job as cover. My guess is that Mike only told Saul that he knows a guy, that knows a guy that knows who the meth king pin of ABQ is. I hope not, I think I'd prefer Saul and Mike to begin their descent into lawlessness together.
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Beef Hardcheese posted:I love that when the son says 'Finally', the mom snaps her fingers to get him to be quiet. That, plus the fact that she was the one grabbing the money bag and the look on Mr. Kettleman's face when the cash comes out, make me think the whole embezzlement thing was her idea, rather than his. Evidently they go camping a lot:  And the kids loving hate it, which makes that scene even better.
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Feb 18, 2015 08:28
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Aphrodite posted:Mike working for Gus always seemed a little weird because then what the hell is he doing slumming it as a cleaner for Saul? It's not that weird, Mike is a professional for hire with a skill (shady poo poo) I doubt even Gus needs bodies moved every day. When the super lab is brought into operation he gets more work from Gus.
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Feb 18, 2015 11:06
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Also, pre-Superlab and pre-Walt-loving-Everything-Up, Gus was using the Cartel's network and Cartel street dealers, wasn't he? So Mike wouldn't have had much to do except the particularly exotic things, and the day-to-day of dead drops and moving the product was all handled by other people.
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Feb 18, 2015 11:13
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hailthefish posted:Also, pre-Superlab and pre-Walt-loving-Everything-Up, Gus was using the Cartel's network and Cartel street dealers, wasn't he? So Mike wouldn't have had much to do except the particularly exotic things, and the day-to-day of dead drops and moving the product was all handled by other people.
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Feb 18, 2015 11:37
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Plus Mike is a pragmatic dude. Might be a case of keeping an eye on Saul too, just in case. Saul was well-known for helping the same sort of scumbag who would get in trouble with the cartel.
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Feb 18, 2015 13:09
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Gus's thing didn't go in full swing until he met Walt. He was on the cartel's good side and probably had their muscle do the musclin' when it was necessary. Mike was probably just a pro for hire whose most professional customer was Gus, which is why he gravitated to full time work as Walt began loving everyone's life up.
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Feb 18, 2015 13:52
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Also remember that when Mike warns Gus about the cousins who are about to kill Walt he doesn't call Gus directly; he calls Victor who then tells Gus. He probably wasn't fully in Gus's inner circle at that point.
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Feb 18, 2015 15:00
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Gus won't work with unpredictable people like Tuco. He claims.
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But Tuco is connected to the cartel, so it may be a matter of having to work with him to keep them thinking they're in charge. Though I agree there's no guarantee he and Tuco worked together.
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Beeez posted:But Tuco is connected to the cartel, so it may be a matter of having to work with him to keep them thinking they're in charge. Though I agree there's no guarantee he and Tuco worked together. I can only imagine Gus would intentionally keep his distance from Tuco, based on his unpredictability and more importantly, his relationship with Hector.
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I'm loving this series, having never watched a single episode of Breaking Bad. I've always been a big Bob Odenkirk fan. After having skimmed through this thread, It looks like I'm going to have to binge watch all 5 seasons so the spoilers being posted don't ruin the experience.
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hailthefish posted:Also, pre-Superlab and pre-Walt-loving-Everything-Up, Gus was using the Cartel's network and Cartel street dealers, wasn't he? So Mike wouldn't have had much to do except the particularly exotic things, and the day-to-day of dead drops and moving the product was all handled by other people. Didn't Gus and the cartel have like, a falling out at some point? Something about them murdering Gus's partner?
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It wasn't so much a falling out as a grudge he nursed for years/decades while acting like he could let bygones be bygones (except to Hector Salamanca).quote:Gus's thing didn't go in full swing until he met Walt. He was on the cartel's good side and probably had their muscle do the musclin' when it was necessary. Mike was probably just a pro for hire whose most professional customer was Gus, which is why he gravitated to full time work as Walt began loving everyone's life up. This kind of doesn't match up with what was said when he was detained by the police though: quote:It seems, uh, Fring had all these secret offshore accounts that he would deposit money into-- Like, uh, well, an even dozen of them-- And they're all in the names of certain people on his payroll. He's clearly supposed to have been doing a lot of stuff for Gus for a long time. It's a plot hole but whatever. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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Huh. I always thought that Gus had his own distribution network (the Pollos trucks, for example) and dealers. I thought his grudge against the cartel made them basically rivals. But apparently they were all working together? That doesn't seem to make sense with the way things played out in season four of BB though...
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Before Gus made his superlab, the cartel produced meth and Gus distributed it with his restaurant supply chain. His game was to start producing a superior product and cut his supplier (the cartel) out of the whole business. That's why he formed that chemistry scholarship in his dead partner's name, to find a chemist who would be good enough(and loyal enough) that he could once again be the supplier and not just the distributor.
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Last Chance posted:Didn't Gus and the cartel have like, a falling out at some point? Something about them murdering Gus's partner? They killed Gus's partner as a show of force, but they leave him alive and he continues working with them. At the time that he meets Walt, Gus is nearing the final stage of a long-term plan to break his reliance on the cartel--he spent years cultivating Gale and paying his way through university, and then using his expertise to build the superlab, which is already prepared to go live when Walt appears on the scene. It's not clear how Gus plans to win a war against the cartel, because Walt's presence causes him to change it up, and the new plan is what we see him execute in the series.
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Ohhh okay, that makes sense
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I did always like the contrast with Gus and how he always focused on business over personal vendettas, it was a lot different from most villains that you tend to see.
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Feb 18, 2015 16:11
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And ironically it's the one personal vendetta he has that kills him.
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It's kind of his own fault for relenting, isn't it? He never wanted to work with Walt in the first place, but Gale was so impressed by the product that he insisted.
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I mean it's pretty clear based on what we learn about him that his adherence to very specific plans and treating things as 'just business' is why he is successful. But the one time he breaks his own rules, it all comes crashing down. All because of greed (which is a major theme of the entirety of BB).
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hailthefish posted:And Walking Dead will soon be followed by "The Walking Living" OMG JC a Bomb! posted:They should call what comes after TWD "The Laughing Dead," because watching grown adults discuss that clowncar of melodrama like it was "Death of a Salesman" is hilarious. Idran posted:But that doesn't rhyme. Whatever title it'd have it would have to be able to be modified for an hour long talk show. "The Talking Living" just doesn't work.
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This might have been brought up in the thread before, but I can't remember/ dunno if a link was posted. In Mr. Show, they had a sketch about law school with Michael McKean (Chuck) as the law professor, and Bob Odenkirk as the TA. Coincidence! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxMS59sxwxs
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LadyPictureShow posted:This might have been brought up in the thread before, but I can't remember/ dunno if a link was posted. Foreshadowing!
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Of course, his whole disguised voice reminded me of this great sketch of his: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLuZGlwStBM
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The third podcast is up, by the way. e: It seems to have been removed from the podcast listing, but for now the link seems to work fine. FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 18, 2015 |
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Really enjoyed episode 3, the ending was a bit predictable I guess but other than that it was pretty solid. Only criticism for me is the acting of the blonde lawyer friend, but that's forgivable.
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FreeKillB posted:The third podcast is up, by the way. That podcast opening 
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What I find interesting is that I've been keeping a loose eye on Bob Odenkirk ever since he was a rando on Space Ghost, and this entire intervening time his schtick has been that he is dreadful at improv, he can't carry a tune, and the voices and accents he tries to do are downright embarrassing to listen to. Have you seen him on Tim & Eric? He's embraced his craptacularity and made an entire career out of it. But this show, for whatever reason, seems to be trying to take him as seriously as anyone has ever been taken. None of his goofiness is ironic or fourth-wall-breaking. They even have him doing a British accent to try to fool a caller, and you're not supposed to think "Oh yeah, it's just Bob doing his horrible Sandy Winfield voice again or something"—you're supposed to think he's good at what he's doing. Every little facial tic, every close-up of his pursed lips or twitching eyelids in a tense moment, is played as the work of a consummate Ack-Tor. Haven't seen Fargo, so I know this isn't his first rodeo; but it'll be the craziest goddamn thing if Bah Bodenkirk emerges at the other end of this crazy train tunnel with serious dramatic chops to his name.
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You have to be good to be that bad.
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Yeah Bah Bodenkirk is a consummate pro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQAFv1sI6TU
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Data Graham posted:What I find interesting is that I've been keeping a loose eye on Bob Odenkirk ever since he was a rando on Space Ghost, and this entire intervening time his schtick has been that he is dreadful at improv, he can't carry a tune, and the voices and accents he tries to do are downright embarrassing to listen to. Have you seen him on Tim & Eric? He's embraced his craptacularity and made an entire career out of it. Are you insane? Bob Odenkirk is an amazing dramatic and comedic actor. He was great for four years on Breaking Bad, heard his performance is good in Fargo, and rumor around the watercooler is that AMC might even do a follow up or a "prequel" to Breaking Bad with him as a starring role. We'll just have to see if it's successful or not. Only time will tell I suppose...
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