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Whatever Zets' alignment, I believe the watcher claim to be genuine. The flavor of sending Taco out to watch seems to fit.  If he's scum, the advantage of claiming like this would be to try and get himself cleared as a town power role, possibly drawing protection as well. The fact that he came forward despite having no data to give, except that "look out the scum might have a ninja guys" lends support to this. But it would also be very risky since town is very likely to have a watcher of their own. If I was with him in a scumdoc I would have very strongly advised against it, or thrown a fit at him for doing it on his own before asking anybody. That makes me a bit nervous as well. But then, a lot of the more experienced players most likely to give him that good advice are already dead...
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Sorry all, I'm up the past today and being harassed by kids. I'll be able to post more tonight.
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no. ##vote Gough
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##unvote ##vote busb ##unvote ##VOTE BIFAUXNEN ##unvote ##vote ZETSUBOU-SAN
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Mar 9, 2015 04:02
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Today I would rather lynch Gough, thatbastardken or Plotterboy, any of them could be coasting scum. And with a Gough lynch we'll get some useful info if he flips scum. If it comes to it i'll hammer to resolve this watcher poo poo but the more i think about it the less i believe Zestubo is scum.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:06
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Lid posted:##unvote you're wrong imo. Bif is one of the only posters still alive that i'm confident is town.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:07
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busb posted:you're wrong imo. Bif is one of the only posters still alive that i'm confident is town. Way I'm reading it, he's asking you both to vote for Zetsubou-san, not casting aspersions on bif.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:08
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tithin posted:Way I'm reading it, he's asking you both to vote for Zetsubou-san, not casting aspersions on bif. I was a little confused about that myself, since I still have my vote left there anyway, he had both me and Zets in all-caps. I thought that might be for emphasis, like that's the "real" vote. Is all-caps supposed to mean that's who you actually think is scum, Lid? Vote/unvote me for yes, vote/unvote Zets for no.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:12
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##unvote ##vote Bifauxnen
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Mar 9, 2015 04:14
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Thanks, gotcha.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:15
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##unvote ##vote ZETSUBOU-SAN
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Mar 9, 2015 04:20
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##unvote ##vote ZETSUBOU-SAN
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Mar 9, 2015 04:21
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Lid posted:##unvote  TIL I'm an auspol mafia celebrity
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Mar 9, 2015 04:21
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Its me im the lid whisperer
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Mar 9, 2015 04:23
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I need confirmation from GM that my riding can slow down after a successful discussion on bike safety. Helmets are the catalyst of life.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:27
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I can't figure out lid for poo poo, what is the secret?
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Mar 9, 2015 04:35
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This is a bit of an awkward position. I think Gough(TIRADE) might end up being a safer choice for today, if the counter-claim isn't quite as direct as we first thought. Zets(GSC)'s claim was a pretty dumb move as either town or scum, and that makes it hard to judge which is more likely. While if Gough(TIRADE) is scum, he had scumbro Xylo(TBK) actively trying to get the vote away from him, which has more meat to it. (and if you believe I'm scum, you could see my voting for Mills as only further evidence for trying to protect Gough at the time) I don't want derail this idea though, if people think I'm scummy trying to direct the vote away from Zetsubou(GSC). Lid, when you want us to stick with voting Zets, is it for any other reason or argument besides the counter-claim? vote/unvote Tithin for yes, vote/unvote busb for no. (and then finish up with getting back to your real vote)
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Mar 9, 2015 04:43
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thatbastardken posted:I can't figure out lid for poo poo, what is the secret? People in all caps are scum, people at the top are who should pay attention to the specific post? I think?
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Mar 9, 2015 04:43
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##unvote ##vote busb ##vote ZETSUBOU-SAN
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Mar 9, 2015 04:45
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Gough Suppressant posted:People in all caps are scum, people at the top are who should pay attention to the specific post? Yeah, that seems to be the system. That and trying to frame things in yes/no questions that he can confirm by voting a specific person.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:45
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Lid posted:##unvote no thanks, i'm happier with my current vote.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:50
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Also, that seems to rule out the idea of Lid(SK) going off an investigation, Tith.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:50
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Bifauxnen posted:This is a bit of an awkward position. I think Gough(TIRADE) might end up being a safer choice for today, if the counter-claim isn't quite as direct as we first thought. Zets(GSC)'s claim was a pretty dumb move as either town or scum, and that makes it hard to judge which is more likely. Let me be clear - I am claiming town watcher. There's nothing indirect about my claim. Vanya is my watcher. Asides from this there's another aspect to my role which I won't reveal until tomorrow.
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I'm also wondering why if it's based off nothing other than the counterclaim he has still switched from me to zets after apparently being pretty strong on me. As far as I can tell the only thing against me so far is a really weak case put up by a third party and the (admittedly suspicious) defence of me by xylo.
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Honestly, I'm going out on a huge loving limb here so if he is town, I'm hosed. Scum wouldn't do something as dumb as what I just did. Milky must be doing with laughter.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:54
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All right, I'll stay put then.
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Mar 9, 2015 04:55
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Gough Suppressant posted:the (admittedly suspicious) defence of me by xylo. There are currently 9 players who don't have a vote down though so when people get home from work i imagine posting will pick up??
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Mar 9, 2015 04:56
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##vote ZETSUBOU-SAN lets see what the rain man has up his sleeve I guess
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Hey Zetsubou, just a random idea that occurred to me here, on some microscopic chance of this all being a complete newbie misunderstanding... you wouldn't happen to have just misread your role and got TRACKER instead of WATCHER, would you?
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Mar 9, 2015 05:07
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C'mon Zets, it shouldn't take this long for the scumdoc to advise such a simple matter. 
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Mar 9, 2015 05:17
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Hm. That's odd.
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Mar 9, 2015 05:19
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Milky could you check your PMs?
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Mar 9, 2015 05:21
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tithin posted:Milky could you check your PMs?  Will do.
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Mar 9, 2015 05:24
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Bifauxnen posted:Hey Zetsubou, just a random idea that occurred to me here, on some microscopic chance of this all being a complete newbie misunderstanding... tithin posted:Hm. tithin posted:Milky could you check your PMs? Titshalom ... did Vanya lead you into the duck pond again?
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Mar 9, 2015 05:30
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Possible, with a healthy dose of mod screw up by giving me a result I shouldn't have gotten. Awaiting clarification.
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Mar 9, 2015 05:32
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My completely non-game-related ability of "forums watcher" saw Zets skulking around in the game room though, so I'm feeling a little more confident about this vote if he's dodging the question. It should really be a no-brainer on his end.
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mope, lookimg over muy PM again and it hasn't hatvhed into anythingh overnight. it sti;l says watcher.
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Okay, good to know.
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