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Jst0rm posted:time for lesnik to demand a bunch of money or else he leaves. That would gently caress cig up if he left and he should be able to squeeze a cool million out of them. But that's 1/8th of what they have left!
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Matlock Birthmark posted:Ha ha, oh man that letter. Thank you Star Citizen thread. quote:Every time a big public company pushes out a game quickly to make the holiday season everyone laments about lack of ambition and taking the audience for granted. Here you have a 100% gamer funded project on the PC, a platform that almost every publisher ignored or pushed crappy console ports to and you have a game in a genre that everyone said was dead to a level that no publisher would dare to – and you want to harm it? Escapist killed PC gaming
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Nuclearmonkee posted:But that's 1/8th of what they have left!
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KiddieGrinder posted:You're a loving idiot. All I'm saying is "ethics in the gaming industry" and "woman hating" has a rather conspicuous and recurrent overlap
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How are they still going to have a con after this? Every single movement will be asking about question Smart/Escapist have brought up.
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Jst0rm posted:time for lesnik to demand a bunch of money or else he leaves. That would gently caress cig up if he left and he should be able to squeeze a cool million out of them. That would be impossible, Lesnick lives from the saliva of Chris Roberts
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Oct 1, 2015 19:23
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lmao if they only have 8 million at this point. This thing will be over in 6 months if that is true.
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Irrational Man posted:all this Sandi hate makes me think the gamergate connection is not as tenuous as it sounds Read this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/features/14715-CIG-Employees-Talk-Star-Citizen-and-the-State-of-the-Company And proceed to feel stupid. And to preempt any bullshit denial from you, yes - it's so very likely that 7-9 people, all confirmed to be different persons, all got together and made all of that up and that a journo site (even if a gaming one) thought it solid enough to run it as such. 
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BexGu posted:How are they still going to have a con after this? Every single movement will be asking about question Smart/Escapist have brought up. They can probably get one last good take from the con so there's no real reason not to.
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Madcosby posted:Chris' response is to call the Escapist another D Smart mouth, then to try to diminish D Smart, then try to call the escapist author a gamergater (I dont know what that means) Creating strawmen is the weakest agreement possible and the only one he has. Even if everything he said was true about Escapist and the author it does nothing to say he didn't do any of thing outlined in the article.
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BexGu posted:How are they still going to have a con after this? Every single movement will be asking about question Smart/Escapist have brought up. They'll never cancel the con Citizen Con is long
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GaussianCopula posted:They did not just use Glassdoor as their source? lol if you think glass door and derek smart aren't their source. Just lol fake edit: Jesus christ that CR response is long. Does anyone have a TL;DR, I'm not going to read that. peter gabriel posted:They are pretty much having a drunken shouting match on their front lawn at this point
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This is the greatest thing. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think Croberts would be this loving stupid, but here we are. Thank you imaginary space ships
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CrazyLoon posted:Read this: I don't know, like croberts said, there are two sides to every story. It does not seem outside the realm of possibiity that Sandi was a target of malicious rumors, especially when the gaming industry has been known to struggle with misogyny. A former employee could easily drum a lot of sympathy on the basis of shared prejudice against women in gaming.
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Truga posted:lol if you think glass door and derek smart aren't their source. Just lol your imaginary space ship just sailed
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CrazyLoon posted:FTFY. Hey now. That's not really a fair comparison. Nazi harpies were probably crucial in putting BMW engines in Messerschmitts and constructing some fairly spiffy motorways. All she's done is drive one of the worst BMWs ever built on top of some filed-down sandstone. They also play an important role in a number of hilarious *sploitation movies from the '70s — she's not quite there yet… Tippis fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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 I hope I get a refund, I am such a loving idiot. I just like spaceship games
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Madcosby posted:They'll never cancel the con I know they won't but how delusional can they be cause the whole thing will be a bunch of disgruntle nerds asking more and more question. Unless this is a way to get a bunch of dissenters in the same room and pull of some Night of the Long Knives poo poo. God let this end with Chris Roberts pulling a Heaven's Gate/a Sandi blow up on stage.
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Irrational Man posted:All I'm saying is "ethics in the gaming industry" and "woman hating" has a rather conspicuous and recurrent overlap I think most people are far more troubled about her being a short tempered racist than being a woman. If it was a man that pulled the same poo poo it would still be uncalled for.
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Irrational Man posted:I don't know, like croberts said, there are two sides to every story. It does not seem outside the realm of possibiity that Sandi was a target of malicious rumors, especially when the gaming industry has been known to struggle with misogyny. A former employee could easily drum a lot of sympathy on the basis of shared prejudice against women in gaming. 7 to 9 former employees*
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BexGu posted:I know they won't but how delusional can they be cause the whole thing will be a bunch of disgruntle nerds asking more and more question. Unless this is a way to get a bunch of dissenters in the same room and pull of some Night of the Long Knives poo poo. i was trying to make a joke off of the word con
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Truga posted:lol if you think glass door and derek smart aren't their source. Just lol Keep the faith citizen. He invokes the name of SMART like 10x more than is needed to summon him and also brings Gamer Gate into the discussion. Then he provides the following solid refutation of the provable claims within:
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Truga posted:fake edit: Jesus christ that CR response is long. Does anyone have a TL;DR, I'm not going to read that. You're all jelly. Smart's a dick. Ex-employees with axes to grind. Doing something nobody has done before. Author of article is bad and acting as mouthpiece for smart (gamergate stuff as proof). Why are you being so mean when we are just trying to make a game. Some more stuff I forgot. also this quote. Chris Roberts posted:The only person who is famous for being a blowhard, bully, an awful game developer and human being is Derek Smart. Any bets on how long until Smart threatens to sue for libel?
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BadOptics posted:I think most people are far more troubled about her being a short tempered racist than being a woman. If it was a man that pulled the same poo poo it would still be uncalled for. alleged racist
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I'm too busy to read all this, remember if you see something funny, screenshot it.
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Truga posted:lol if you think glass door and derek smart aren't their source. Just lol The only way I can think of Derek Smart being 'their source' is if he directed all the ex-employees crying to him to go to The Escapist, since they've expressed interest in running a story. I mean...I know we're talking about gaming journo sites here that are the bottom rung, but in the end even they'd find it hard to justify running a story like this if they weren't sure they were talking to 7-9 people who definitely once worked at CIG.
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Jst0rm posted:lmao if they only have 8 million at this point. This thing will be over in 6 months if that is true. To be able to reach the current point, everything DS said about CR and vice versa all have to be true. It's like winning a vegas parlay, we got here hitting every single mis-management rumor. It'd be weird if the 8mil rumor wasn't true. HKS fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Madcosby posted:They'll never cancel the con Roberts is going to get shanked ala Caesar during the convention and his final words will be "Actually, it's about ethics in games journalism."
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Raskolnikov posted:
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The TLDR of robert's response is 'This rant is circumstantial corroboration of everything that article says by way of my incompetence'.
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Irrational Man posted:alleged racist when she tried to sing the german national anthem she sang the nazi one instead like, she knew the words to the nazi national anthem
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BadOptics posted:Needs to go into the OP tbh. The OP has been updated with far more relevant information
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The OP has been updated with far more relevant information Well done and appropriate.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The OP has been updated with far more relevant information 
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:The OP has been updated with far more relevant information I agree.
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Irrational Man posted:alleged racist I applaud your attempt at neutrality (seriously). But, what would you accept as proof, if multiple matching independent statements from more than 5 people (presumably interviewed separately, by email) aren't enough? It is a fact that they buried any mention of her and Chris being married. It's also a fact that they hosted unrelated theater readings at their offices specifically for her. It's a fact that something happened the day after Derek Smart leaked the Jennison letter, and four or five people were immediately fired or quit- and the person leaking the info to DS also added the same kind of description as was seen in the article, of her shouting profanities and accusing people of being traitors. Is she going to have to come to your house and poo poo on your porch? Like, what is the standard of evidence you will accept?
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Madcosby posted:when she tried to sing the german national anthem she sang the nazi one instead The longer this goes on, the more this feels like a parody of a game studio, like something you'd see in GTA.
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Madcosby posted:when she tried to sing the german national anthem she sang the nazi one instead this was probably more of an innocent mistake whereby she just wanted to look smart and copied what she saw one time on the history channel, without realizing the difference. If it even happened at all. I mean really, "she's a racist" is the most obvious attempt to deflect culpability on the part of the accuser because it ostensibly suggests they're concerned with these sorts of issues and thus cannot be sexist. When in fact, they're probably just sexist. I mean what's harder to believe. Gamers are misogynist or Sandi sits at home practicing the nazi anthem? The fact that people would prefer to believe the latter just proves how far feminism has to go.
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