Decrepus posted:

Why didn't they have some random idiot get his face mapped and then have Gary Oldman just voice over it? It isn't his real head anyway and from what I gave read about hughmon anatomy most are made up of the same underlying structures.

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1&v=SrpeLpQWzTk

I'm watching this.

The constellations cockpit view sucks.

Moreso, it looks boring as hell.

G0RF posted:

That was truly inspired.

In related news:
Was no one disappointed with the lack of tangible end user game play at citizen con?

MeLKoR posted:

Those were perfectly reasonable issues. I know "not a cult" is becoming repetitive but holy poo poo someone should make :notacult: a thing.

quote:

"5. Concept sales create engineering debt.

Additionally, the problem with selling things that are only in concept is ensuring the workload for incorporating said concept is factored into the sale and the time and expertise is directly calculated based on the return. The associated marketing and hype also adds to the aforementioned mythology.

kikkelivelho posted:

This interests me actually. Ignoring the massive amounts of glitches and the clearly staged fights, what makes it boring? I haven't played Elite but from the videos I've seen the space parts look really similar. You're mainly travelling from point A to B to do something. What were people in this thread expecting Star Citizen to be like?

kikkelivelho posted:

This interests me actually. Ignoring the massive amounts of glitches and the clearly staged fights, what makes it boring? I haven't played Elite but from the videos I've seen the space parts look really similar. You're mainly travelling from point A to B to do something. What were people in this thread expecting Star Citizen to be like?

Demiurge4 posted:

In case anyone missed it, that line in Bishops speech about victory was Croberts trying to channel some Churchill but coming down flat. Here's what the real thing sounds like.

D_Smart posted:

Yet, somehow, most backers somehow missed the fact that, well, yeah, they took away their liability to continue frequent deliveries of content.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I can now add "some Goon" to my list of honorifics.

MeLKoR posted:

Those were perfectly reasonable issues. I know "not a cult" is becoming repetitive but holy poo poo someone should make :notacult: a thing.

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

I can now add "some Goon" to my list of honorifics.

kikkelivelho posted:

What were people in this thread expecting Star Citizen to be like?

Decrepus posted:

"Blizzard is a terrible example as their cinematics are not rendered in engine. There is no comparison between SC cinematics and Blizzard's as they are apples and oranges."

Yes, it is impossible to compare two cinematics because of how they are rendered, not what you visually see using your loving eyeballs.

Adventure Pigeon posted:

Probably so the lips would sync well with the words. This is the minutiae they focus on rather than "Does this even look/sound good?"

Synchronized posted:

Seeing you probated was such an incredible disappointment. I've always found your arguments on the RSI forums to be clear, cogent and ultimately fair. The SC forums are significantly poorer for your loss. Most of all because you honestly did want to see the game succeed, rather than fail. The people eating up everything CIG throws at them aren't doing them any favours in the long run.

It's a shame that CIG prefers baseless pandering to reasonable discourse.

G0RF posted:

"Star Citizen: Condition Red?"

A really excellent and even-handed summary of the state of Star Citizen (the game, the community, and the company) by Allen Stroud. Here is one of many gems in it.

If the phrase "concept sales create engineering debt" has been used here before I missed it, but what a wonderfully concise way to sum up that particular problem. CIG has engineering debt in the tens of millions. How will it be paid for in a cash crunch? Concept sales will create more engineering debt.

AP posted:

MeLKoR posted:

Why didn't he just sue for failure of payment instead of declaring personal bankruptcy?

Decrepus posted:

Why didn't they have some random idiot get his face mapped and then have Gary Oldman just voice over it? It isn't his real head anyway and from what I have read about hughmon anatomy most are made up of the same underlying structures.

thatguy posted:

I made something terrible. I'm sorry in advance.

1stGear posted:

Attention cultists: please stop comparing RSI to Blizzard or Valve or any studios that has actually produced games and thus earned the right to take their time making more.

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Valve makes games?

kikkelivelho posted:

This interests me actually. Ignoring the massive amounts of glitches and the clearly staged fights, what makes it boring? I haven't played Elite but from the videos I've seen the space parts look really similar. You're mainly travelling from point A to B to do something. What were people in this thread expecting Star Citizen to be like?

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Valve makes games?

DoctorStrangelove posted:

Valve makes games?

nopantsjack posted:

they can't even finish their concept art?

AP posted:

If you're a fan of big name casting in games, it might be worth checking out.

no_recall posted:

I'm playing elite now actually


It owns.

SC has much to prove. Whatever they're doing now might be a step in the right direction (finally). There's no time to tell though.

Mukip posted:

It's a method of quickly producing concept art using composite images. Concept art doesn't always have to be "finished".

nopantsjack posted:

The Story So Far

The initial drama
Derek Smart is Derek Smart, trolls Star Citizen for a few months.
The Escapist publishes a peice where employees of CIG accuse Chris and Sandy of mismanagement, waste of funds and specifically Sandy of racism and muff-hating.
Chris Roberts posts a big meltdown on the Star Citizen site accusing Escapist of manufacturing sources/beleiving disgruntled employees/being Derek Smart/being Gamergate.
One day later CIG threaten Escapist with a defamation suit against the claims on Sandy (notably no claims to do with the money) unless they apologise and remove the article within 24 hours.
The Escapist says no, and commits to further investigation.

Pre-Citicon:
Derek Smart predicts a ship called the Vindicator will come out and it'll be $175 and a fighter, he does this through Beer who gets banned from the CIG forums for it.
Much shitposting.

Citicon:
After a brief delay and schizophrenic countdown timer, Citicon opens with a tearful speech from Sandy where she appeals to backers to think on the deep social connections they've forged by buying theoretical spaceships together, hypes Star Citizen as the pinnacle of human endeavour. This all sounds like a resignation and she's given going-away flowers, but doesn't leave.
gently caress you, Derek #1: "Anonymous hate campaign" + Look how much Sandy's underlings like her She also drops that she and Chris are married and this has "never been a secret" which is untrue.

Chris waddles on stage and mumbles through his nose and giggles, after showing how many devblog programs they've made the first thing he does is show off how many people he has working for him to disprove allegations of shrinking studio sizes. (gently caress you, Derek #2)
Chris lists the only stuff that is probably coming out soon, and its basically two weapons and buggies and the ability to respawn after you die.

After months of delays Star Marine is quietly scrapped and the development process is reversed and is no longer modular, now they're going to combine all the modules into one alpha to be released at an undisclosed time. gently caress You, Derek #3: "Everyone always yells at me when I give you release dates so I won't anymore."

Chris manages to fail at Powerpoint and can't make the next slide work.
Chris declares the alpha map to be the biggest ever in a game but compares it with Daggerfall and Skyrim rather than Elite, EVE or No Man's Sky which are much larger.

At some point they show off the state of this combined alpha, which is basically the multicrew demo from earlier roughly combined with the Star Marine module, it still looks very choppy and extremely pre-alpha, tellingly in a 4v4 firefight none of the shooting is captured on camera.
From the looks of it its entirely possible to lose whole space systems by not being good enough at FPSes. This is the only "gameplay" shown in the whole presentation, and involves mostly walking and some taking off, travelling and landing in space ships, ostensibly some people shooting assault rifles and then getting back in a ship.

A guy introduces a neat map app thats actually available now in browser and seems to work, making it the most polished game to come out of the kickstarter so far. You can plan your space camping trip routes in a game that won't exist for 2 years maybe never. The guy running the demo nearly dies from stage fright.

Chris talks about a night club called the Million Mile High Club where presumably people will gently caress eachother in space. This will probably also come out in some form, since its just a map people can walk around in, will support up to 25 players lol habbo hotel tech.

Some other guy intros an unpriced super joystick/keyboard/throttle addon that looks like hot dogshit but the guy doing the presentation is the only human that comes on stage for the whole thing. Chris fucks up at the reveal at every opportunity continuing the trend of Chris not being able to do anything.

They intro the Referral program with a video made by the one man who doesn't know how to say referral. The new "refral" program basically encourages faithful Citizens to recruit new players to buy this nonexistant game or buy 25 new accounts to get themselves a gaudy gold ship skin.
Possibly before this they announce a new ship that is totally the Vindicator, but has been renamed the Saber and sliced $5 off the price. (gently caress you, Derek #4)
They also announce a new $2500 military ship pack to go with Squadron42.

Halfway through the event and Chris is now just going to talk about Squadron 42 for the next hour, everyone is super excited to see what they have to show.

They have videos of the motion cap studio they set up themselves and reveal that Gary Oldman is in it and show a trailer showing CG Gary Oldman doing an old man voice with a muppet mouth before bragging about their facial animation in another video. They reveal a bunch of celebrities such as Scully, Luke Skywalker and Gimli are also in it as well as Sandi Gardiner. In brief interviews Gary Oldman looks guarded or despondant and compares Chris to Lucas.

They show us the first Squadron 42 gameplay ever revealed and its one big walking cutscene where they tour the ship and nothing else happens, the voices and perfomances are okay but this... isn't a game and there are bugs everywhere even for this one slice they have made, the first guy you see's hair takes 10 seconds to appear, another guy has a luminous mouth like his soul is trying to escape. All the black characters are carrying luggage or cargo in the background.
The animations range from decent mocap to shockingly rudimentary. Release date is set as 2016 which is laughable for anyone watching.

Chris goes loving mental for like 25 minutes about how many hours of cutscenes the game has and how huge its script is and it becomes chillingly apparent to everyone he's just found a way to reignite his hollywood dreams off the backs of nerds with poor judgement.
He gets an underling to bring him the script and then throws it on the floor to show how huge it is, then turns around and leaves him to pick it up, then realises he's supposed to be pretending to be nice and squawks out an apology and does his weird Hyih Hyih giggle.

Cake Time! CIG make a final bid to fill time and distract people from the fact the game doesn't exist and they showed 10 minutes of gameplay and they just told everyone none of the stuff they've been waiting for is coming out and they're going to have to indefinitly wait for an alpha that currently doesn't exist in any releaseable way.
They have brought a big birthday cake and they try and figure out a way to get the cake on a table from where it is 4 feet to the right to centre stage, which takes an army of techies and employees much hemming and hawing.
A put-upon looking stage assistant lights the candles as Chris giggles and introduces his all male, all white staff. "Happy Birthday, Star Citizen" they sing. The cake has 3 candles on it because its 3 years since the dream of Star Citizen and Star Citizen is just a dream.
Chris tries to blow out the candles and sprays spit all over them with a big ol' raspberry.
Chris makes two tentative cuts to the cake, asking the whole time how you cut cake and apologising like a man who has never seen a cake nor indeed a knife before.
Chris gives up immediately, nobody is getting any cake because he just can't figure this out, he tells the techies to cut the cake but then decides against it and announces the show is over.

I now know why I was put here on this earth, it was to make the longest post about Star Citizen nobody will ever want to read.

Decrepus posted:

Can I grow spaceweed yet?

kikkelivelho posted:

The last "space sim" I played was probably I-war 2 god knows how many years ago. I have no idea what is considered "fun" in these kind of games. People seem to find the new Elite fun but based on what I've seen it's a really slow game with lots of travelling involved. So do the people who find the multicrew demo boring also think that E:D is boring?