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UppaTree posted:For the second time, if we take everyone along, we have to deal with... For the love of El all of the teleport options suck. Maybe, MAYBE we can save the kids but we lose out on much better stuff for ourselves. Make an artifact or weapon and get the heck out of dodge.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:28 |
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Is everyone voting to send the kids alone assuming that Tudiya will be able to understand them and that they're capable of telling him what's going on?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:31 |
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RandomPauI posted:Can we make a giant tortoise for us to ride home on? Why ride one giant tortoise when we could all be riding giant wolves.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:31 |
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LivesInGrey posted:Is everyone voting to send the kids alone assuming that Tudiya will be able to understand them and that they're capable of telling him what's going on? Tudiya has mighty language skills.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:34 |
Chantilly Say posted:One thing I'm pretty sure about : when we get back, Ish is going to need a while to piece together exactly how stupid we are, and we're gonna need a really long nap. I wish we could just not talk to Ish. Or at least I wish we could just walk away when he inevitably starts spewing insulting self-righteous garbage. We just freed innumerable human souls from the hands of demons and returned their power to El but I'm 99% sure Ish is gonna bitch and moan but refuse to explain why he's bitching and moaning. It's like he's our awful girlfriend that we can't talk ourselves into leaving. Either way, El will know what we did, and that's all that really matters in Ur once you get past the politics. The thread seems to finally be realizing that it doesn't matter what the nature of El is, faith is the smart bet if we wanna become a Tudiya level muscle-god.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:38 |
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If we make a weapon, how awesome would it be exactly? Good enough to gut Gebeb and free the souls(?) inside?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:41 |
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Voting: Create a bow powerful enough to shoot individuals all the way to Zepath. Spend the next day or two shooting javelins with markings on them telling Tudiya to get ready to catch some folks, then shoot the villagers home.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:43 |
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Diogines posted:All of the available material will be committed to the purpose you set it to. I'm a smidge worried about this. "All the available materials" includes: Us Snarls Giants Laurels Platform Villagers Question! Since the laurels warned us cutting the giants open would "Increase the likelihood of detection" do we sense that we've been detected?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:43 |
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LivesInGrey posted:Is everyone voting to send the kids alone assuming that Tudiya will be able to understand them and that they're capable of telling him what's going on? Even with the language barrier, I doubt he decides to suddenly not take care of 180 random kids that drop out of the sky. He'll take them in. I think the majority of you just seem to be having trouble accepting that a hard choice has to be made here. Both teleporting options do suck to some degree, and both leave hard questions on what to do once the teleport has happened. If we teleport the kids, we have to deal with 400+ adults still and a long journey. Why does that instantly mean we are taking them all with us? I mean - I know you guys are dead set on trying to save everyone even to the point of oblivion - but we can always leave the 400 to fend for themselves, free men and women. Tell them El has saved their children and given them freedom, now they must find their own salvation. Send them off into the wild. Most will die, if not all of them. The Balls go home. It sucks, but there are no great options. Making the difficult choice to save 1/3rd of them completely and leaving the rest to fend on their own is something we should seriously consider.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:44 |
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I think people also want to take adults so that there is not evidence of who we are or where we're from, assuming that the giants even know anything about Ur. Taking everyone with us is a cleaner escape but we can't just walk away with their kids then. So we send the kids, and we run some risks with the adults being here. They can describe what we and our men looked like, our creation story and maybe which direction we came from and in which direction we left? I don't disagree that the safer bet on saving 1/3 of the village is reasonable but I want to cover our asses.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:54 |
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Can't believe we haven't asked this: If we consume everything how much stronger/more powerful will we be?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 05:55 |
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Amazed posted:arm the adult population and curb stomp a couple more cities Ahahahahah you're not joking you are the joke.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:03 |
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Make the endless food and water to nullify weariness so we can move constantly the whole way home 24/8 if that's doable
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:03 |
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Mexican Deathgasm posted:I wish we could just not talk to Ish. Or at least I wish we could just walk away when he inevitably starts spewing insulting self-righteous garbage. We just freed innumerable human souls from the hands of demons and returned their power to El but I'm 99% sure Ish is gonna bitch and moan but refuse to explain why he's bitching and moaning. It's like he's our awful girlfriend that we can't talk ourselves into leaving. I wish we could not decide in advance how to respond to things he hasn't said. El clearly approves of what we did here, what makes you think Ish would second-guess him?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:04 |
Task Manager posted:Even with the language barrier, I doubt he decides to suddenly not take care of 180 random kids that drop out of the sky. He'll take them in. If we don't teleport, we and all of the people left behind are dead. Giant mighty men will be up our asses guaranteed. Even if it takes them a month to find out what happened in Gebek, they'll be running day and night to catch up and murder us. And then they get all those tasty souls back to torture for eternity. I just don't see how that is a good option, even if we teleport everyone and they all end up dying, their souls will be free.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:05 |
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a cat irl posted:I think people also want to take adults so that there is not evidence of who we are or where we're from, assuming that the giants even know anything about Ur. It's definitely a risk - there's a high chance they are all dead by the time the gold giant gets back though. Realistically, none of these people could survive more than a few nights out there alone more than likely. As gruesome as it might be, we could also always offer to grant mercy to those who wanted it. A clean death and knowing your children are safe is probably much more preferable to death by being eaten or being an eternal soul prisoner. I fear no matter what action we take, if Amakalite wishes to track us down, we will be found. Choosing not to teleport the adults does increase this risk though, definitely. Edit: Mexican Deathgasm posted:If we don't teleport, we and all of the people left behind are dead. Giant mighty men will be up our asses guaranteed. Even if it takes them a month to find out what happened in Gebek, they'll be running day and night to catch up and murder us. And then they get all those tasty souls back to torture for eternity. I just don't see how that is a good option, even if we teleport everyone and they all end up dying, their souls will be free. Like I said above, I think the men and women die to more mundane means way before the giants rally. They arent going to stay here and risk being eaten - they'll run and within a few days be dead to whatever random monster gets them. The Balls will be fine in that scenario. I fear no matter what action we take, if Amakalite wants to find who did this, they will. I agree not teleporting the adults makes this risk increased, though. Task Manager fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Dec 7, 2015 |
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Task Manager posted:I fear no matter what action we take, if Amakalite wishes to track us down, we will be found. The whispers told us this if we teleport, it will be far enough that they either can not or will not.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:07 |
Waci posted:I wish we could not decide in advance how to respond to things he hasn't said. El clearly approves of what we did here, what makes you think Ish would second-guess him? Just based on past experiences. But here's hoping he doesn't and is decent to us.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:09 |
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SKY COQ posted:What if we raised up Gebek on a tangle of grape vines and semen and walked it home Diogines posted:You can feel the immense heat coming from the approaching wall of molten bronze and copper. As you land behind your people, you grow to enormous proportions, two hundred feet tall...
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:11 |
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Task Manager posted:This, with Ibleam being what, less than a week away? He's never going to send any sort of substantial attack force one to two months out and leave Zepath at risk. Two months for a refugee convoy is not even close to two months for a Mighty Man, or even for a Mighty Man and an ox cart full of food. Mexican Deathgasm posted:Just based on past experiences. But here's hoping he doesn't and is decent to us. Please link me the times he disapproved of us doing things we were directly told to do by El.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:11 |
So what I'm seeing here is a kick-rear end tortoise which makes plan tortoise sound even more appealing.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:14 |
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Baha I wound up finding an extremely sketchy Yahoo Answers to see what happens when you heat semen for that fight. God that was a good game.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:14 |
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I think we should teleport the kids, offer to take about 40-50 people who are able to keep up with us and then tell everyone else that we are sorry. I know this runs a risk of having the giants learn about us, but I think that Gebeb will know what happened to him regardless. It seems unrealistic and perhaps even a little gamey to come up with a solution that doesn't leave us with any loose ends or risk. If we try and teleport everyone into dangerous territory then we run the serious risk of having everyone die, not just the people who we are trying to protect. If we teleport the children, we can save nearly 200 people that otherwise we doomed to eternity as giant food. This is of course in addition to the THOUSANDS of souls we released from torment from the giants. It might be morally repugnant, but we have to leave a huge amount of these adults to their fates. Also, if we die trying to bring them home then we can never save other souls from demons.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:16 |
Waci posted:Please link me the times he disapproved of us doing things we were directly told to do by El. When have we ever been told anything directly by El?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:18 |
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Waci posted:The whispers told us this if we teleport, it will be far enough that they either can not or will not. There are other way they can find out who did this than by following a physical trail. The teleport will hide where we went, possibly who we were - but there's still a chance they piece this carnage together somehow. Waci posted:Two months for a refugee convoy is not even close to two months for a Mighty Man, or even for a Mighty Man and an ox cart full of food. That doesn't change the fact it will still be a journey of several weeks, for a bunch of Ruths. Tudiya just loves sending a sizeable portion of his defense force weeks away to save a bunch of natives. He sent Aaron and Fifty House Men to Ibleam. He's not going to send even close to that to us. Into wilderness that we've been told we have survived solely thanks to moving quickly and Snarls nose, which a Mighty man with an ox cart of food does not have. Tudiya ain't sending a relief force off into the wild blue yonder. Not during these times.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:18 |
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Mexican Deathgasm posted:When have we ever been told anything directly by El? Remember the sacrifice when we got the thing we used to seal away Gebeb?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:20 |
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Whatever we end up doing, I'm looking forward to Ish going, "... you did what? You got here how? " *Huge sigh with massive facepalm*
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:32 |
Last round of answers for the night:Rahul posted:Edit: how close could we teleport people to the forest that contains zepas monument? FoxTerrier posted:I asked this earlier. He said we had to pick one, sadly. Speeding them up sufficiently that the trip is short and easy, temporarily, will be highly noticeable. Swedish Thaumocracy posted:Ask our knowledge: Swedish Thaumocracy posted:Can we sense Ishamal? Swedish Thaumocracy posted:Could we make a tool to break the hide of a Hunger Demon as we know it, to free the trapped souls within? Amazed posted:Can we Aades posted:Can we give all adults presently here mighty man strength? Theglavwen posted:How much further could we teleport everyone if we added our bow and/or sandals as fuel? 4The total increase in distance is marginal. Theglavwen posted:What if we added Tudiya's shield? FoxTerrier posted:......Diog can we give everyone wings or otherwise make everyone fly (independently, no transporter)? How quickly/effectively could they fly to Zepath if so? jazzyhattrick posted:Question for diog: how long would the journey from Everfang's land to home take if everybody in the party is riding a wolf? RandomPauI posted:Can we make a giant tortoise for us to ride home on? A living creature as a means of transport would likely less notice than a flying building overhead. It would however need to be quite large to fit 587 people farmers as well as your men. It would likely be large enough to scare off many monsters and wild beasts. But probably not demons. Whatever they are. Algid posted:If we make a weapon, how awesome would it be exactly? Good enough to gut Gebeb and free the souls(?) inside? But great indeed. The resources available here pale in comparison to Gebeb's might. Travic posted:Question! Outrail posted:Can't believe we haven't asked this: If we consume everything how much stronger/more powerful will we be?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 06:35 |
Stargate everyone
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:06 |
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Diogines posted:Last round of answers for the night: Damnit. I'll be honest, I am pretty torn here. Leaving aside anything else, I'll note that David at least was on the verge of challenging Uriah to a duel because he wouldn't try to save everyone, so that's something to look forward to.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:12 |
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It might be best if we could do a partial teleport and eat the rest. If we had enough ??? to be a syched up mighty dude we could burn it off running defence all the way home.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:33 |
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Tomn posted:Damnit. Nah, I'm sure they'll get over it fine. Everyone was really worked up, it was a tense situation, and I want to believe that it speaks of Uriah's growth as a person that he was trying to be the pragmatic one when Uriah from 20 years ago probably would have been "gently caress yeah! David's right!" I'm proud of them both
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:38 |
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How far would the teleport go if it left us and the Balls behind?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:42 |
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Task Manager posted:There are other way they can find out who did this than by following a physical trail. The teleport will hide where we went, possibly who we were - but there's still a chance they piece this carnage together somehow.. The Whispers posted:If we teleport, it will be far enough that they either can not or will not. And in any case re: The Trail of Tears, escorting a group of ~500 for several weeks through dangerous terrain will have a higher success rate than escorting a group of ~400 for several months through certain death terrain imo Lets be honest, we aren't leaving anyone behind
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:45 |
Yo. Here's an idea Make a giant bird to fly us all. Apparently creatures will attract less notice. And we can name it Larry Bird!
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 07:47 |
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Just as stylish as a floating temple and safer. Redundant vote. By popular demand fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Dec 7, 2015 |
# ? Dec 7, 2015 08:02 |
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Uhhh... A large worm to burrow a tunnel straight to Zepa lands. It will secrete some kinda parasite which will harden the walls to prevent creepy crawlies from entering our tunnel or a cave in. These parasites will also glow bioluminescence like we saw that one time we went in the cave. And I guess the big worm shits delicious and nutritios fruits that smell nice and are very watery. Make that.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 08:03 |
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I feel like a giant tank would be cheaper and more effective than a giant turtle. Wouldn't need to be as large to hold everyone, could have a roof and sturdy walls, etc. Would a ground vehicle suitable for carrying everyone be allowed into Zepa's land?
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 08:04 |
WhiteOutMouse posted:Uhhh... Holy poo poo
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 08:05 |
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WhiteOutMouse posted:Uhhh... It's an interesting idea. I see two issues with it however even if it's possible: 1. The Ur-Underdark is very extensive. We've got a good chance of tunneling into an untold number of nasties below the surface. Maybe if we don't go too deep we can avoid the worst of this. 2. We'd be creating an underground invasion-express highway for an army of vengeful giants if they manage to find the entrance. Still, an interesting out of the box idea. I'm curious to see what diog says about it.
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# ? Dec 7, 2015 08:14 |