CROWS EVERYWHERE posted:

I met up with my little brother the other day and managed to talk at him about my Star Citizen referral code for a good half hour, as he had never heard of it to this point. He thinks Derek Smart sounds like a dickhead though (I think Derek's preferred term is "internet warlord"). It persuaded him to actually download Alpha 2.0 and give it a try and he's apparently enjoying it quite a bit

Scruffpuff posted:

I agree with all of this, but the line isn't always as easy to define. I offer a real life example: I had a coworker who was excellent at his job. For some reason, the CEO started to be a real bastard to this guy, tasking him with impossible jobs, etc. Over about a year, the guy started stressing out and making all kinds of mistakes. In the end, he was fired. Now during that year of decline, anyone could have easily made fun of him for being "bad at his job." And they would have been right, but that doesn't take into account the environment that created that decline in performance.

Never mind any one person at CIG - the whole organization is full of dysfunction. There's crazy amounts of stress, paranoia, pressure I can't even imagine, and there's this one guy at the top who's responsible for it all. It's fun to make fun of all the dumb quotes and missteps taken by all the employees along the way, but I don't have all the facts. Can they really all be this dumb all the time, or is much of this the result of the natural breakdown most humans feel under incredible strain? Imagine what it must be like right now to work in the UK studio for example. If Erin Roberts suddenly flipped out, I'm not sure I'd find it all that funny. There are lots of laughs to be had here, but I feel a little guilty since it's mixed so finely with tragedy.

Mirificus posted:

I have no words...

AP posted:

Kai Tave posted:

This is the one and only time I'll play armchair psychoanalyst re: Star Citizen and Pathfinder Online and the like. Someone in the PFO thread summed it up rather perfectly I think when they said that it's not games so much that these folks are craving but some kind of virtual reality. That's why you get people wanting to mix drinks and tend stables and be innkeepers and hide in boxes and spinning these wild, entirely fabricated daydreams about life in the 'verse and poo poo, because what they're actually hoping they're funding is some sort of proto-holodeck where they can plug in their VR headset and immersive flight joysticks and be transported to another world entirely.

I'm not suggesting that literally every person who backs something like this is trying to escape their lives or something, I'm sure far more people backed Star Citizen simply because they thought (for some reason) that Chris Roberts would give them a cool new game to play, but by and large those folks are probably the silent majority that don't post stuff like the Stimpire or suggest that there should be space airliners with space stewardesses and a drink mixing minigame. Like, it's been brought up here multiple times over the last 5,000 or so posts (and gently caress off if you think I'm going back and looking for who said it when) that the sort of person who wants drink mixing minigames and space news vans and poo poo isn't the sort of person who's seriously played video games in the last 20 years or so, and yeah, that's probably right. Because they aren't actually after a video game, and their bizarre requests for ridiculous content and strange essays about a fictional video game that exists only within their heads is pretty strong evidence of that.

They want Chris Roberts to be the one to finally deliver this fully immersive, seamless fantasy they've concocted. I don't know why they think he can do it when as far as I can tell his list of accomplishments begins and ends at "made Wing Commander," but he's speaking their language when he agrees that there's going to be seamless orbit-to-surface landings and procedurally generated flora and fauna and so they'll happily keep throwing money at him in the hopes that this project achieves some kind of critical mass, or hell, maybe just to keep the dream going at this point.

Google Butt posted:

Bootcha posted:

This will be the most direct thing I will have said.

You know that old adage about "act with what you know"? Those words, used by Sandi in that recorded talent tape, were used on someone within CS dead in front of the Santa Monica HR person. The CS person was not fired that day. The CS person left.

Chelsea did come from a hospitality background. Sandi could learn something from the hospitality industry.

Like work ethic, and teamwork, and responsibility, and service...

And humility.

JaucheCharly posted:

Is this game some sort of pyramid scheme?

AP posted:

That Lethality idiot ran a site for some other space game http://www.askajedi.com/

AP posted:

Bootcha posted:

This will be the most direct thing I will have said.

You know that old adage about "act with what you know"? Those words, used by Sandi in that recorded talent tape, were used on someone within CS dead in front of the Santa Monica HR person. The CS person was not fired that day. The CS person left.

Chelsea did come from a hospitality background. Sandi could learn something from the hospitality industry.

Like work ethic, and teamwork, and responsibility, and service...

And humility.

Kai Tave posted:

This is the one and only time I'll play armchair psychoanalyst re: Star Citizen and Pathfinder Online and the like. Someone in the PFO thread summed it up rather perfectly I think when they said that it's not games so much that these folks are craving but some kind of virtual reality. That's why you get people wanting to mix drinks and tend stables and be innkeepers and hide in boxes and spinning these wild, entirely fabricated daydreams about life in the 'verse and poo poo, because what they're actually hoping they're funding is some sort of proto-holodeck where they can plug in their VR headset and immersive flight joysticks and be transported to another world entirely.

I'm not suggesting that literally every person who backs something like this is trying to escape their lives or something, I'm sure far more people backed Star Citizen simply because they thought (for some reason) that Chris Roberts would give them a cool new game to play, but by and large those folks are probably the silent majority that don't post stuff like the Stimpire or suggest that there should be space airliners with space stewardesses and a drink mixing minigame. Like, it's been brought up here multiple times over the last 5,000 or so posts (and gently caress off if you think I'm going back and looking for who said it when) that the sort of person who wants drink mixing minigames and space news vans and poo poo isn't the sort of person who's seriously played video games in the last 20 years or so, and yeah, that's probably right. Because they aren't actually after a video game, and their bizarre requests for ridiculous content and strange essays about a fictional video game that exists only within their heads is pretty strong evidence of that.

They want Chris Roberts to be the one to finally deliver this fully immersive, seamless fantasy they've concocted. I don't know why they think he can do it when as far as I can tell his list of accomplishments begins and ends at "made Wing Commander," but he's speaking their language when he agrees that there's going to be seamless orbit-to-surface landings and procedurally generated flora and fauna and so they'll happily keep throwing money at him in the hopes that this project achieves some kind of critical mass, or hell, maybe just to keep the dream going at this point.

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Had an idea, want to hear your thoughts. self.starcitizen

submitted 12 hours ago by Ravenous222

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before or not so please forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse here. But I thought it would be really cool to see card games and other such activities in the game. For instance say you're on a long voyage somewhere or just hanging out in your ship with nothing to do. You and your crew could play a few rounds of poker or blackjack or what have you. Also I was thinking it would be neat to see entertainment modules, where you could have something along the lines of poker tables, pool tables, jukebox, etc. You could turn ships into floating casinos or have a place for gambling on your cruiseliner for guests. It could be very profitable and something extra to add to immersion in the game. Thoughts?

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You know that old adage about "act with what you know"? Those words, used by Sandi in that recorded talent tape, were used on someone within CS dead in front of the Santa Monica HR person. The CS person was not fired that day. The CS person left.

Ledenko posted:

I must be really dense because I don't understand what happened there, can someone explain using stupid people words?

Ledenko posted:

I must be really dense because I don't understand what happened there, can someone explain using stupid people words?

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Sandi's a terrible person who does terrible things to employees, who then leave the company due to how terrible she is. HR sucks at their job and didn't step in to stop Sandi being a terrible person.

CrazyLoon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuOxMtlHRcE

The words you hear there at the start? Sandi literally used those exact words to chew out (as in, demean in public in front of other employees and the Human Resources (kadrovska po naše) person) someone within the Customer Support divison of CIG, to the point where they left soon after, according to Bootcha.

Nisi tok butast. Samo malo bolj podrobna angleščina je tole.

I Greyhound posted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/43icr0/custom_starcitizen_control_panel/

e: I'm the toggle switches tied to momentary button functions.

Iglocska posted:

Come on, this can't be true. I mean that's like comic book villain level poo poo.

CrazyLoon posted:

Bootcha seems to think it was, and he definitely has had links to CIG before. And given the depths of her narcissism in her letter exchange with Beer, I definitely would not rule it out as an impossibility by this point.

But

Napoleon Bonaparty posted:

I haven't heard a single loving word from Sandi that made me want to be interested in this loving abortion. Chris was cool for a while because he was confident in his vision, and he made a couple of working products, but who the gently caress even was Sandi? Even when she was narrating poo poo, like the excellent youtube production of "please make us a spaceship we don't know how to do that here is the community spaceship now" the internet TV show, I can't think of someone doing a more wooden presentation. That is the opposite of good marketing.

trucutru posted:

Don't forget these are the most boring people in the planet and, when given the choice to dream as big as they can they say "poker!", "crates!", "winamp in space!".

2DCAT posted:

Is the PVP slider the knob at the top?

Kai Tave posted:

It's like, okay, space combat? Dogfights? Shootmans? You can get that stuff in any game. If I had to guess I'd say these folks think that "immersion" means "an unrealistic and tedious recreation of every single bit of existence right down to the mundane poo poo most normal folks couldn't care less about" because otherwise what you have is just a game and not a fully immersive experience. Notice that this is that dude's exact argument. Hey, wouldn't it be immersive to have poker and jukeboxes and stuff? And while we're at it, why don't video game characters ever have to go to the bathroom? To these folks, all that boring poo poo is necessary for a game to transcend being a thing you play for XX hours and put away into a thing you lose yourself in for decades or whatever.

Iglocska posted:

Quite honestly I always liked the enthusiasm of Disco Lando, but Sandi's stuff I always found cringe worthy.