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HatfulOfHollow posted:Umm... If you've been hit 5 times I'm pretty sure it's not the other guy that's the idiot. poo poo happens in some places. The roads near my HS used to be notorious for fender benders because of the idiot 16 year olds getting a taste for freedom and insisting that they had to eat every lunch at the nearby Dairy Queen, which lead to a lot of fender benders as people rushed to not be late for class.
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You must live in Capitol Hill, only place with that many shithead drivers I think.
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Pryor on Fire posted:You must live in Capitol Hill, only place with that many shithead drivers I think. Almost every encounter has been in Englewood/Greenwood Village area. People in the tech center are terrible drivers. But then again, if there is 1 flake of snow everyone freaks out and starts banging in to each other.
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Cyrano4747 posted:poo poo happens in some places. The roads near my HS used to be notorious for fender benders because of the idiot 16 year olds getting a taste for freedom and insisting that they had to eat every lunch at the nearby Dairy Queen, which lead to a lot of fender benders as people rushed to not be late for class. The trials and tribulations of any Oregon high school right there.
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Apr 18, 2016 19:30
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Kramdar posted:The trials and tribulations of any Oregon high school right there. Yup.
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HatfulOfHollow posted:Umm... If you've been hit 5 times I'm pretty sure it's not the other guy that's the idiot. We refer to these people are "poo poo magnets". Like the guy whose car has been vandalized a dozen times. Technically he's not at fault but you know somewhere the along the line he hosed up.
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Bovril Delight posted:We refer to these people are "poo poo magnets". Like the guy whose car has been vandalized a dozen times. Technically he's not at fault but you know somewhere the along the line he hosed up. I messed up by continually trying to drive a nice car and not a ragged out piece of poo poo.
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EDIT: Figured it out.
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Apr 18, 2016 21:32
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Blakkout posted:EDIT: Figured it out. Installing VW wipers involves various incantations of "gently caress THIS PIECE OF poo poo" before it magically just clips into place.
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veedubfreak posted:I messed up by continually trying to drive a nice car and not a ragged out piece of poo poo. People with beaters get hit by snowplows and kids making ill advised turns, too, Princess.
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Nostrum posted:Installing VW wipers involves various incantations of "gently caress THIS PIECE OF poo poo" before it magically just clips into place. Yeah, let's just say I know more about varieties of VW/Audi wipers than anyone should ever have to. And yes, I finally got that fucker off.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:04
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tactlessbastard posted:People with beaters get hit by snowplows and kids making ill advised turns, too, Princess. Salty. I was replying to the guy that said some people are just "poo poo magnets". You must drive a beater. Show me on the doll where the bad car touched you.
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Kramdar posted:The trials and tribulations of any Oregon high school right there. My Oregon high school was the same. I did not know this was somehow regional that kids drive and wreck cars on lunch.
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Apr 19, 2016 22:25
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Nostrum posted:Installing VW wipers involves various incantations of "gently caress THIS PIECE OF poo poo" before it magically just clips into place. Just bought one from Costco and it took me a while to figure out. Also the pivot attachment thing is huge so I'll probably return it.
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Apr 20, 2016 02:06
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I only buy oe replacements off Amazon because it's easier than dicking with various adapters. The one set I bought from Costco made the wipers sit higher than stock and it legitimately bugged me until I replaced them.
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When I went to buy some wipers at the local VW dealership the lady who was the cashier managed to give me a 27 dollar refund instead of charging me 27 bucks for the wipers 
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So some news: http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/20/vw-to-pay-us-customers-5000-each-to-settle-dieselgate-die-welt.html http://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions-court-idUSKCN0XH0ZV http://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions-usa-idUSKCN0XH2CX?mod=related&channelName=businessNews But we'll have to wait until tomorrow to know for sure if this is true.
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$5000 is probably way more than I would have gotten out of a class action, so that is good. I would estimate that is in the ballpark of the value lost on my 2014 Passat. /edit: Just read the last article posted. Was 500,000 the ballpark number of affected cars in the US? I thought they were throwing around 600,000 as the US number. Just going to have to wait and see if they are going to buyback the Adblue cars, or just give them a software update. Honestly, at this point I don't know which I would prefer. The $5k in addition to current value gets it to a reasonable return, but it doesn't give me a significant down payment on a new vehicle. Orvin fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 21:09
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Orvin posted:
From the sounds of it it does not look like there is one. At least not a fix that the Govt will approve. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I really like my 2015 passat and would rather not have to get a new car. If I do though it won't be a VW.
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I could probably be talked into another VW, but it would have to be at a serious discount. Something like I turn in my 2014 TDI SEL Passat for a 2016 V6 SEL Passat at my current loan amount. Which I fully understand is a pretty unreasonable deal. I really like how roomy my car is, and I no longer have the super long commute that makes a TDI attractive. But I do worry about the long term prospects of VW as a company.
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Orvin posted:I could probably be talked into another VW, but it would have to be at a serious discount. Something like I turn in my 2014 TDI SEL Passat for a 2016 V6 SEL Passat at my current loan amount. Which I fully understand is a pretty unreasonable deal. Yeah I mean if they offered me a straight swap for a new Passat and the 5k I might take that deal. I'm not fond of the idea of having to go through the whole car buying process again. I also no longer have a long rear end commute that made that TDI attractive so I wouldn't take much of a hit on that. Time will tell I guess.
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So is it $5k or a buyback. Or will you be able to pick one or the other? $5k and an incentive on a new car would probably work out better for me I'd think? My car has some "character" after 75k miles in 3 years that would knock quite a bit off resale value.
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fknlo posted:So is it $5k or a buyback. Or will you be able to pick one or the other? $5k and an incentive on a new car would probably work out better for me I'd think? My car has some "character" after 75k miles in 3 years that would knock quite a bit off resale value. From the sounds of it it would be 5k and a buyback. My question about the buyback would be how much are they going to give? I'm not sure if I am top heavy on my loan or not ( I probably am ).
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BraveUlysses posted:buy backs too? i just double No poo poo. I don't see how I wouldn't come out ahead even if I get hit pretty hard on the cosmetic issues.
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I still love my A3 but a buyback at pre-scandal value (or sticker?  ) + $5K gets me pretty close to a Model 3, and after all of this bullshit I'm more then ready to say goodbye to internal combustion forever.
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bizwank posted:I still love my A3 but a buyback at pre-scandal value (or sticker? I get where you are coming from but what are you going to do in the 3+ years it takes to get your Model 3?
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I live close to transit, have a 15 minute no-freeway commute and I don't drive much on the weekends. So, I could pick up a $2K beater Corolla and supplement that with car2go/zipcar/Uber, my neighbor's truck, etc. I've got the credit to lease something nice too but I kinda like not having a car payment. Really hinges on the details of the buy-back though, if it even materializes; worst-case scenario I take the $5K, get a tune and some new wheels/tires and drive the hell out of my TDI until the government comes to take it away. Edit: "Owners are expected to have around two years to decide whether to sell back vehicles or get them repaired." http://www.autonews.com/article/20160420/OEM11/160429980/vw-said-to-pay-u-s-customers-5000-each-in-diesel-settlement bizwank fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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No way in hell would they buy it back for sticker price. Hopefully they would use Pre Scandal KBB price or something but poo poo you never know. lovely thing is I don't have to figure out which car to buy I have to figure out which 2 cars to buy as my GF as a 2015 Jetta TDI as well. She was super happy with her car and neither of us are happy trying to figure out what she should get next. Why is new car buying always such an exhausting process? Edit: quote:Separately, Germany's Die Welt newspaper reported Wednesday that the deal to settle the case would involve it paying each affected customer $5,000. But a person briefed on the matter told Reuters that no decisions on how individual compensation will be awarded have been made. lol I just thought maybe they will make the offer 5k off a new VW and a trade in is the buy back. MarcusSA fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Do they actually have a mechanical fix or are they going to be forced to buy them all back?
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daslog posted:Do they actually have a mechanical fix or are they going to be forced to buy them all back?
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daslog posted:Do they actually have a mechanical fix or are they going to be forced to buy them all back? They probably have a fix its just not one that the Govt is willing to sign off on.
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From ars technica:quote:"VW will pay cash compensation to owners who either sell their vehicles back or get them fixed,” Reuters reported. "Owners selling back their vehicles will get an additional cash payment on top of receiving the estimated value of the vehicles from before the emissions scandal became public in September 2015." Cash on top of buyback? Don't stop I'm almost there
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The article I read (which I'm sure is just as speculative as all of them) pointed out that the $1B covers about $1.3k per car, so the assumption is that the newer ones will get a combination of software patch and maybe some modifications. The interesting curve ball is that even if VW, the layers, and the JD have all agreed the judge still needs to OK it, and there have been cases in the past where judges rejected agreements like this because they let the company off too easy or didn't remedy the situation or didn't make good damage done to consumers etc.
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bizwank posted:I live close to transit, have a 15 minute no-freeway commute and I don't drive much on the weekends. So, I could pick up a $2K beater Corolla and supplement that with car2go/zipcar/Uber, my neighbor's truck, etc. I've got the credit to lease something nice too but I kinda like not having a car payment. Really hinges on the details of the buy-back though, if it even materializes; worst-case scenario I take the $5K, get a tune and some new wheels/tires and drive the hell out of my TDI until the government comes to take it away. Do what my dad did and lease an e Golf. He got a huge green tax credit and then beat them down on the price so he's pretty much got a free car for the next 3 years.
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BraveUlysses posted:From ars technica: I've seen some speculation that miles and condition may not have much if any impact on the buyback price either. If so, 
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Wife and I have 2 of the affected cars. Really putting us in an interesting spot...
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fknlo posted:I've seen some speculation that miles and condition may not have much if any impact on the buyback price either. If so, Agreed... we have over 100k on a 2012 Jetta.
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lightpole posted:Do what my dad did and lease an e Golf. He got a huge green tax credit and then beat them down on the price so he's pretty much got a free car for the next 3 years. I thought about that option, but for some stupid reason they won't sell me an egolf despite living in Seattle, were everyone has an electric car or hybrid. If the buyback actually goes through, I will probably get rid of my TDI and lease an i3.
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I think they are a little hard to find. They had to ship it from Fresno to SF for him. He's really happy with it though and drives it under almost the exact same conditions you would. He says he can push the charge to about 100 miles if he tries. lightpole fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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