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nickmeister posted:This one was posted around the same time as the other one. I remember the original Chinese article's comment section was filled with lame excuses as to why the Chinese girl failed so hard to analyze Chinese literature. English version http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/Analyze-Not-Memorize-Chinese-Student-Struggles-in-US-Chinese-Language-Class Original Chinese version: http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2015/06/01/4310079.html
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That German bearing spins like a top from Inception. The Chinese just goes "Nope".
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# ? May 12, 2016 01:46 |
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It's really interesting that you still call people foreigners when you're in their country.
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# ? May 12, 2016 01:52 |
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Nanomashoes posted:It's really interesting that you still call people foreigners when you're in their country. it's finally happened to me in America, but it was a potential client so I decided against losing my poo poo
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Nanomashoes posted:It's really interesting that you still call people foreigners when you're in their country. it's funny because we call ourselves foreigners in china, while chinese people still call us foreigners when they're in the US. all words about like "foreign" and "domestic" in mandarin are insanely china-centric, like if I'm in Germany and I say "domestic prodcuts" I'm clearly talking about German stuff, but if you're in the US and talking in Mandarin and someone says "domestic," it ALWAYS refers to China, and the word for domestic is literally "within the country" in Mandarin, whereas foreign is "out of the country." So you hear chinese people referring to American movies, while in America, as "Movies from out of the country," and movies from China as "Movies from within the country."
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angel opportunity posted:it's funny because we call ourselves foreigners in china, while chinese people still call us foreigners when they're in the US. wealth beyond measure, outlander
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:wealth beyond measure, outlander You're not far off. Wait until you have some skrib jelly and roasted guar skins.
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Nanomashoes posted:It's really interesting that you still call people foreigners when you're in their country. All the fuerdai kids I've talked to here in the US all call us foreigners (in English and Mandarin) all the time. They stick to their bubble and are absolutely terrified to step out of it. I've tried to teach them to say "local people" in English instead, but it doesn't stick. Oh well, we can still thank them for the supporting the would-be-failing economies of thousands of small college towns and cities on the coastal regions of the USA. I've had a few tell me that the most common thing for rental agencies and landlords do for Chinese, Asian, and Arab students is to make them sign one-year leases and pay the entire year's rent upfront, with a non-refundable deposit and some other fees.
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# ? May 12, 2016 02:44 |
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Haier posted:I've had a few tell me that the most common thing for rental agencies and landlords do for Chinese, Asian, and Arab students is to make them sign one-year leases and pay the entire year's rent upfront, with a non-refundable deposit and some other fees. Those landlords are just waiting to get slapped with an Equal Housing Opportunity lawsuit from an enterprising attorney or a tenant that wants to live for free.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:03 |
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sincx posted:Those landlords are just waiting to get slapped with an Equal Housing Opportunity lawsuit from an enterprising attorney or a tenant that wants to live for free. Not so sure a super-rich foreign student on a free-ride with daddy's money gives a poo poo. Especially the Oil Money students who get higher education paid free by their governments.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:39 |
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Japanese took the same lesson really, what with 外国人 and all that. And they don't respond well when you tell them that all the foreigners are choking out your country either~icantfindaname posted:word filter changes to neoliberal Ícélándíc keyboards just do that sometimes.
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# ? May 12, 2016 03:42 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Japanese took the same lesson really, what with 外国人 and all that. And they don't respond well when you tell them that all the foreigners are choking out your country either~ You can just stick some bbcode in there and you'll be fine, you neoliberal cuck.
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Wanamingo posted:You can just stick some bbcode in there and you'll be fine, you neoliberal cuck. mods?!?
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Wanamingo posted:You can just stick some bbcode in there and you'll be fine, you neoliberal cuck. reported to the red guard
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:29 |
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Ayyy, is this fo'real? This owns. EDIT: Secret Double Western Ratio is spot-on for Mississippi. Those people are huge down there.
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# ? May 12, 2016 04:52 |
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Haier posted:Ayyy, is this fo'real? This owns. Yes and no, some of the characters have several meanings, so this is just one representation. E.g. New York is 纽约, where 纽 can mean "button/knob" but can also mean a bond or a tie. 约 on the other hand can mean "to make an appoitment", "ask or invite in advance", "pact", "agreement" or indeed "restrict/restrain". So "To restrict buttons" isn't more right or wrong than "to make an appointment with a knob".
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I'm reasonably certain that I had a run-in with those exact batteries. I bought a cheap head-mounted flashlight from DX or Alibaba, the batteries were included. I charged the batteries by putting them in the battery case and plugging it in using the provided charge cable. It worked fine. After used it for a while, I recharged it. This time something went horribly wrong. I had the flashlight charging on my work bench in my studio. I heard a loud hiss, opened the door and saw a powerful stream of smoke coming from one of the two batteries. I grabbed the entire unit, charger included and threw it out onto my back patio. The battery was smoking and glowing red hot. A few moments later, the heat caused the second battery to overload. By the end, both batteries had melted the case and the flashlight was ruined.
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# ? May 12, 2016 05:36 |
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Farmland Park posted:"to make an appointment with a knob". Sounds about correct for meeting any New Yorkers. Chinese knew.
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genesplicer posted:I'm reasonably certain that I had a run-in with those exact batteries. I bought a cheap head-mounted flashlight from DX or Alibaba, the batteries were included. I charged the batteries by putting them in the battery case and plugging it in using the provided charge cable. It worked fine. After used it for a while, I recharged it. This time something went horribly wrong. I had the flashlight charging on my work bench in my studio. I heard a loud hiss, opened the door and saw a powerful stream of smoke coming from one of the two batteries. I grabbed the entire unit, charger included and threw it out onto my back patio. The battery was smoking and glowing red hot. A few moments later, the heat caused the second battery to overload. By the end, both batteries had melted the case and the flashlight was ruined. did your patio survive?
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Haier posted:Ayyy, is this fo'real? This owns. It's like if you took a katakana transliteration, found the original kanji from which the kanas derived, and translated--according to your own interpretation--the literal meaning of those kanjis; it's not a meaningful thing to do. sincx fucked around with this message at 07:00 on May 12, 2016 |
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:did your patio survive? It's a superfund site now. sincx posted:This is kinda stupid. For characters used for phonetic transliterations, no one stops and thinks about the meaning behind the characters chosen. And each character can have a bunch of meanings, so you can pretty much pick whatever phrase you want to create for this chart.
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The video listed the Chinese part as 1/30 price of the German one. It really depends on your fault tolerances and there is no need to over engineer the part. There are two issues: 1. Can the Chinese part be as good as the German one if the price is the same? I would say in most cases especially lower level applications, yes. That's why automotive and electronic firms set up shop in the Pearl River Delta during the 80's. 2. Can the Chinese part do the job? I think this is where all these manufacturing problems come from, using bad parts for complicated jobs. Then again, the video was comparing "weapon grade" bearings (whatever weapon grade actually means) Working in manufacturing though, the company I work in mostly deal with Japanese/Taiwan/Korean Steel and avoid Chinese steel unless the client is very price sensitive - then again, they can always go to a cheaper firm in interior China to get the job done
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caberham posted:1. Can the Chinese part be as good as the German one if the price is the same? I would say in most cases especially lower level applications, yes. That's why automotive and electronic firms set up shop in the Pearl River Delta during the 80's. Chinese made products can be decent if the QA is good. That's why almost all of the Germans and French I meet in Shanghai are engineers working specifically in QA. What I then wonder about is when taking QA costs into account as having awestern engineer on a 50, 60, 70k+ expat contract can't be cheap, how much cheaper is made in China really? I mean it must still be cheaper, or they wouldn't continue doing this, but wouldn't it be even cheaper to set up shop in a more advanced, but still low cost country in e.g. Eastern Europe?
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caberham posted:The video listed the Chinese part as 1/30 price of the German one. It really depends on your fault tolerances and there is no need to over engineer the part. There are two issues: nerd
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# ? May 12, 2016 07:50 |
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He literally works in a manufacturing company. Or owns several, I can't remember.
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Not to defend caberham because I don't know him/her, but some goon a while back made a comment (I think about me?) that I'd learned how to better deal with our clients from China (could have been in the last thread). So here are my results from a few months: -The fail-rate of our product is the norm for the western world because I've learned to specify EXACTLY what we need (and pay more than usual as 'totally not a bribe' to the people I meet with, but still less than from a western manufacturer). I may have hit the jackpot, but somehow this is working. -I am now the go-to for drinking with Chinese businessmen when they're in America (I like to drink—I am pretty sure I'm an alcoholic, so I don't drink in my personal life anymore), so this both saves me money and allows me to indulge in my vice when it's for work. -I get more money because I got a raise from the above. Overall, I would say that the China thread has helped me out. Thanks, goons. And all in all, I would never do this again. Do not deal with Chinese businessmen if you can—they're awful. The North Tower fucked around with this message at 11:10 on May 12, 2016 |
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Farmland Park posted:English version http://www.echinacities.com/china-media/Analyze-Not-Memorize-Chinese-Student-Struggles-in-US-Chinese-Language-Class Thanks! Just what I was looking for. Haier posted:All the fuerdai kids I've talked to here in the US all call us foreigners (in English and Mandarin) all the time. They stick to their bubble and are absolutely terrified to step out of it. I've tried to teach them to say "local people" in English instead, but it doesn't stick. Yeah, when I was doing English tutoring last summer, I found myself routinely correcting the Chinese students on this.
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I want that shirt.
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# ? May 12, 2016 13:31 |
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410,757,864,530 DEAD KURDS
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Jeoh posted:410,757,864,530 DEAD KURDS
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Jeoh posted:410,757,864,530 DEAD KURDS Reported for antisemitism
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sincx posted:This is kinda stupid. For characters used for phonetic transliterations, no one stops and thinks about the meaning behind the characters chosen. And each character can have a bunch of meanings, so you can pretty much pick whatever phrase you want to create for this chart why do you even post in this thread. you are just an incredible wet blanket and that's a term i dont think ive ever actually used
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Haier posted:Not so sure a super-rich foreign student on a free-ride with daddy's money gives a poo poo. Especially the Oil Money students who get higher education paid free by their governments. I have to do that (pay a year/half a year upfront) here in the UK every time, despite working here and everything. And I'm most definitely not an Oil Money student or whatever. At least here it's common practice for everyone from err less desirable countries (including EU). And foreign students in general. May or may not include Ireland (I know an Irish programmer making £46K with a UK degree who had to stay in a hostel for a few months before he could save up the money. Although this was Oxford which is the second worst place for renting after London).
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Cry Havoc posted:the british museum is full of loot from other countries The loot from Chinese is stuff the commies would have destroyed anyways. I'm glad they took it.
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bamhand posted:The loot from Chinese is stuff the commies would have destroyed anyways. I'm glad they took it. I like how the evil white people stealing Chinese treasures plot gets reused in so many mainland movies.
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Farmland Park posted:Chinese made products can be decent if the QA is good. That's why almost all of the Germans and French I meet in Shanghai are engineers working specifically in QA. What I then wonder about is when taking QA costs into account as having awestern engineer on a 50, 60, 70k+ expat contract can't be cheap, how much cheaper is made in China really? I mean it must still be cheaper, or they wouldn't continue doing this, but wouldn't it be even cheaper to set up shop in a more advanced, but still low cost country in e.g. Eastern Europe? If you make a billion screws every year then having one guy add in ~$60k/yr is going to be a very distributed cost. Like having shipment delays because the ship broke down is going to cost you more than that.
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bamhand posted:The loot from Chinese is stuff the commies would have destroyed anyways. I'm glad they took it. Luckily the KMT took a shitload of stuff to Taiwan which could have ended up being destroyed. Apparently they have more historically significant artefacts in their museums and storage facilities than the mainland does.
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