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Lil Dawny:Max posted:This post seems a little too . . . hedgy. Like I said, this was sort of jokey because I was tied up with the Adahn stuff at the time it happened, but AA was on my radar for his super hedgy post. Quid posting about it reminded me that it had happened.
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Murmur Twin posted:How is that you believe that ...because people, as scum, will fake opinions on town members in order to get them mis-dunked? How is this even a question MMT 
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Jun 15, 2016 18:40
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Quidnose posted:...because people, as scum, will fake opinions on town members in order to get them mis-dunked? Yeah, I'm not parsing that either.
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Jun 15, 2016 18:46
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is mmt scum
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Jun 15, 2016 18:49
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Okay, I disagree with you Max, but I'll leave it be.
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Jun 15, 2016 19:21
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Li Dawny posted:Okay, I disagree with you Max, but I'll leave it be.  What are your feelings on mmt?
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Jun 15, 2016 19:23
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Max posted:
Meta reads can be problematic to begin with, but I have to disagree about Quid tunneling when he's scum. Maybe it's personal bias, but Quid usually digs into one person and goes for blood wether he's scum or not. MMT themselves...the reliance on meta game arguments and semantics makes me feel a bit uneasy. I find most town day one votes are based on 'feels' or 'lynch the dick' but he's trying to find almost nonexistent inconsistencies and exploit them.
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Jun 15, 2016 19:32
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Quidnose posted:...because people, as scum, will fake opinions on town members in order to get them mis-dunked? On a phone for the next few hours. Your exact words were "yes I think you think Adahn is scummy". Not "you're acting like you think..". I think it's an important distinction because if it were a real case you'dve used the latter phrasing. Yeah its nitpicking but it jumped out at me
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Jun 15, 2016 22:23
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:A slap fight arose on how we should play the game(which for the record, I think is scummy in hindsight, Max and Adahn both end up mafia dadding and dictating the best way for us to play) and I point out that their were valid points from each viewpoint. My suggestion was missing a crucial point, which was that there's a good chance of lynching scum without the help of power roles. Everyone but you picked up on this rather innately, so we're left with the question of why you responded differently. As for me, I've played many more games face-to-face than I have on the forums, so not being able to read people's expressions has me grasping for power roles, fake claims, and other tangibles. I also haven't gotten used to the 'joke phase' and have slipped up because of it. I see that you're now hedging by saying that if you get lynched you'll still be around due to getting tree-stumped (per my suggestion?) but that feels a little forced. I'll reiterate, this could be your personality at play, but until I get to know you (and other players) better I'll tend to judge reactions equally.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:01
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Adahn1986 posted:My suggestion was missing a crucial point, which was that there's a good chance of lynching scum without the help of power roles. Did they though? And how is that even relevant to finding merit in your course of action and then questioning why you thought scum would think said plan was a good idea. Again, I'm not following.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:06
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Like what you're saying now is disconnected entirely from what I said and questioned. I don't see why you think it's some scumtell either. I am legitimately confused.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:07
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:Like what you're saying now is disconnected entirely from what I said and questioned. I don't see why you think it's some scumtell either. I am legitimately confused. It's more that you were doing some serious fence-riding when you initially posted about it, and almost literally said "I'm gonna wait for others to weigh in."
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Jun 15, 2016 23:09
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Max posted:It's more that you were doing some serious fence-riding when you initially posted about it, and almost literally said "I'm gonna wait for others to weigh in." But that's not the point he's making at all.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:10
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I will need clarification on this alleged ah-ha moment he had, and for quid. He just sinks his fangs in and shakes until he or his target are dead and I can't even take him seriously when his initial casing and subsequent quote expanse on me were inaccurate and misconstrued seemingly intentionally.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:12
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i dont think i buy aa is the type of person to come out the gates trying to play town mediator on a mechanics argument b/w adahn1986 and max
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Jun 15, 2016 23:12
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im thinking to think whether i buy him going "hmm in retrospect max and adahn1986 both seem pretty scummy by mafiadadding us" when trying to defend himself as well
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Jun 15, 2016 23:13
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Like its abundantly clear to me that this is a set up and the points on me aren't the home run scum tells they've been made out to be.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:13
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quidnose, analyse that post from scumitude
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Jun 15, 2016 23:13
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dongsbot 9000 posted:i dont think i buy aa is the type of person to come out the gates trying to play town mediator on a mechanics argument b/w adahn1986 and max Not to talk about ongoing games but I just spent a good amount of time mediating mechanics arguments in another game. Also it was the only to go on.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:15
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Murmur Twin posted:Hah, I hadn't really read the game before answering that but apparently my answer seems to be the consensus. If anything I say we turbo someone to accelerate the process by which people are forced to make in-game decisions. Mmt.. are you and lil D the scum team? I just re-read the thread. You're seeming suspicious. Also, is that gasoline you're holding?
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Jun 15, 2016 23:16
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quote:I don't see anything inherently scummy in my play, nor do I see how it can come across as artificial, but I know I can't stand for belligerence as a means to solving the game. I'm a tree and aligned with the Forest. Even with the ability to become a stump, I refuse to be bullied and coerced with bad votes on me. are you referring to my and adahn's votes as the bullying and coercion
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Jun 15, 2016 23:16
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do you think either of us (me, adahn1986) r scum, aa
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Jun 15, 2016 23:17
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dongsbot 9000 posted:quidnose, analyse that post from scumitude I'll do it for you. Quidnose: scum post. Thinks its a set up, it is and here's why we should still vote him.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:18
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dongsbot 9000 posted:do you think either of us (me, adahn1986) r scum, aa I think you make a lot of poo poo tunneling votes across games and don't take you too seriously, but I can't tell your scumplay apart from your townplay as a result. Adahn im more wary of, I thought he was town and suppose he still could be, but he's doing what quid was doing and misconstruing my statement and my question and comparing it against something else entirely.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:20
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lol I drove to carmax and it immediately started raining uber heavily why is god mad at me now ive been nice to quidnose all day
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Jun 16, 2016 00:08
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dongsbot 9000 posted:lol I drove to carmax and it immediately started raining uber heavily why is god mad at me now ive been nice to quidnose all day maybe the rain is slowing you down so that something worse doesn't happen
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I didn't say you were a slam dunk, in fact I asked whoever it was to explain why THEY were so convinced as to why they thought my case was cut and dry. What I saw is what I saw and how I interpreted it is based on that. I am not sure about you now AA because I don't think you'd come in hard with THIS IS AN OBVIOUS SETUP as scum, you'd probably just ignore all of this. MMT's hyper semantics argument seems fake to me. I'm more interested in what she is doing because I do not understand it.
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Jun 16, 2016 01:00
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Long day, going to bed early.
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Jun 16, 2016 01:40
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the storm knocked out my power when i got back what a sick farce of a life I live
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Jun 16, 2016 02:48
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dongsbot 9000 posted:the storm knocked out my power when i got back what a sick farce of a life I live I will never gently caress with quidnose
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Moatillata posted:Mmt.. are you and lil D the scum team? I just re-read the thread. You're seeming suspicious. Also, is that gasoline you're holding? This is twice you've brought me up without a case, just throwing my name out and seeing if it sticks?
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Jun 16, 2016 03:02
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Li Dawny posted:This is twice you've brought me up without a case, just throwing my name out and seeing if it sticks? How does it feel to you? Why are you not scum? Also MMT? Quid said something as did I. What say you?
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Jun 16, 2016 03:14
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And while I'm at it. Infinitum what are your reads? What do you think of mmt? What makes you so sure that I am scum bro number one? Also who do you think my quote scum bro unquote is. I'll be back in an hour to check in with you all.
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Jun 16, 2016 03:18
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Just you big boy. Just you. 
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Jun 16, 2016 03:26
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Infinitum can you case Moat?
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Jun 16, 2016 04:16
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Infinitum posted:Just you big boy. :bigtran:
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Quidnose posted:Infinitum can you case Moat? Planning on it later this evening when I've got time to put it together.
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Jun 16, 2016 04:54
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Infinitum posted:Planning on it later this evening when I've got time to put it together. 
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You want a case, here's a case. I will avoid using the 'bet my beard' posts to make it, as I don't need them anyway. Moatillata posted:MMT- it looks like you've voted for almost everyone at this point. Town First up this post. Now a couple of things to take note of: - Moat knows I've been on an antilurking campaign, as he mentions - If you know enough about me to know I'm super against lurking, you obviously know my playstyle as well - I'm a high volume poster, and generally am within the top 3 posters via post count. - Infinitum =/= lurker, so why is he calling me out for lurking So none of this makes really makes a lick of sense at this point in the game as well: - You'd expect joke posting phase to last at least around 24~ hours when D1 is 48 hours long. - At the time of this post the thread has only been open for 8 hours. - People are at work, people are asleep, people have poo poo to do, etc. So it doesn't really add up to a valid call out post. Nothing about it makes sense if you consider all of the above  [bIt's too early in D1 to be doing a serious, light analytical/callout post + Moat knows my playstyle and high volume of post = Super weird post that is scummy as loving hell[/b] Which is why I call him out on it: Infinitum posted:##vote Moatillata It's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too early in the day to be having a serious crack at analysing the game and serious posting D1. Straight up that post alone is enough to convince me Moat is scum. Nothing groks about it. So what does our boy Moat do, immediately after being called out and 2 votes placed on him back to back? Moatillata posted:Max- I know you have the hots for me secretly but I didn't vote anyone. Immediately drops the case he made for me and starts focusing on other targets again. A player, as town, is always going to be super suspicious of everyone. Why would Moat drop his case for me in this follow up post? Why would Moat redirect the case he had on me to the fact that it was merely MMT asking the both of us to check in Because he can't push that avenue of attack for me as 'scum' anymore. If he was town, and was continuing to hammer me for being a 'lurker', wouldn't you immediately follow up with a "Why have you been lurking" or a "Where have you been post"? When I call him out on it again he follows up with: Moatillata posted:I'm glad I called you out because you are waaaaay overreacting. Except it's not an overreaction at this point, as I'm calling him out for something scummy and now he's trying to back away and dance away from it. "Oh Inf you overeact so much haha" "haha look how Australian Inf is, don't pay attention to him" If you look at Moat's posts for the rest of the day he really only mentions MMT, Quidnose, and to a lesser extent LilD. Would you not be casing EVERYONE at this point if you decided to break joke posting early to serious post and case people? Yes I'm tunnelling Moat hard, but I wouldn't have had he not hosed up by calling me out in the scummiest manner possible. Moat, you asked me before who I think scum team is? It's you+MMT for your weird as gently caress weird interactions. Sooooo To make a long story short. Vote Moat. He'll flip scum. I've already voted him, but lets hammer the point home again and get the train rolling. ##vote Moat
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