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Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Just wanna pop in to say this show has some excellent antique gun action.

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Innocuous
Mar 1, 2003

It's a strange world.



JossiRossi posted:

I really hope crazed broken robodad comes back to protect his daughter :3:

That actor owned that scene with Anthony Hopkins from the moment his "loving, protective dad" programming appeared to run headlong into memories of the catalogue of horrors Dolores has endured. That moment sold the horror of the hosts' lives as effectively as any number of gunshot androids ever could. That whole scene is probably, in retrospect, the reason this show managed to put its hooks in me.

RugClockVexx
Aug 15, 2008

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

He could be Robo-Chekhov's Gun.

When he was being wheeled into cold storage he was definitely tearing up, like he knew he wasn't gonna like what was going to happen next and wanted to cry about it. It was almost like that weird sleep paralysis thing we humans experience every now and then.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

JossiRossi posted:

Oh poo poo, I know why that threw me, I read "Don't tell anyone" as Dolores to the security guy, not what her father said. I'm an idiot. Least I knew it wasn't a VR simulation...

Well Dolores also said that to the security man who believed her. But yes, she lied to him.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
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ol qwerty bastard posted:

It amuses me greatly that Ed Harris's character is called "Black Hat". Not only is he an evil guy in a western, he's also a malicious hacker!
...pretty sure villains in classic Westerns are the origin of that term in the first place.

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

VendaGoat posted:

He lobotomized.

Robotomized?

Either way, he done. He done.

Yeah, and Dolores is practically a new model :rolleyes:

Vanderdeath
Oct 1, 2005

I will confess,
I love this cultured hell that tests my youth.



drunkill posted:

Pilot was great. Really cool of them to turn the gunslinger from an android into a human for the show, hunting down other androids instead of hunting down guests.

Ed Harris owns, Hopkins was alright, hopefully we get a bunch more of him playing god this season. The other human characters were pretty good, although I'm not a fan of Sidse Knudsens accent. After watching her in Borgen speaking amazing English with an accent, it sounded weird for her to be speaking a kind of neutral American accent. Very minor, but she sounds a bit weird.

As for people wondering if it is a VR, no. The 'game masters' (lets just say) are running it all from a control centre which has a nice world map and no doubt cameras all over the place so they can keep tabs on things. We see them enter Westworld to clean up the milkmurder scene and take the androids away for testing.

I was wondering the same thing about Knudsen. Her accent in Borgen was nearly flawless but it's distractingly noticeable in this show. I also think it's pretty neat that all of the leads from that show (Knudsen, Asbaek and Sorensen) have been on HBO shows now.

Revelation 2-13
May 13, 2010

Pillbug
One of the best first episodes to a tv show I've seen. Superb acting by all involved, especially robo-dad. The way he expressed the knowledge of what happened to his daughter was heart breaking (and scary). What did computer guy say to him at the very end as he was being stored?

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The look of hatred in RoboDad's eyes as he was talking to Hopkins was just incredible. He had the look of someone who was about to kill everyone in the room and not even think twice about it; some real "wrath of God" poo poo.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
FEEL FREE TO DISREGARD THIS POST

It is guaranteed to be lazy, ignorant, and/or uninformed.
Robo-dad's whole scene was amazing and the ending was brutally sad.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Revelation 2-13 posted:

. What did computer guy say to him at the very end as he was being stored?

We dont know. But i think that it will be something that triggers the machines OS

Human Tornada
Mar 4, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.

Vanderdeath posted:

I was wondering the same thing about Knudsen. Her accent in Borgen was nearly flawless but it's distractingly noticeable in this show. I also think it's pretty neat that all of the leads from that show (Knudsen, Asbaek and Sorensen) have been on HBO shows now.

Maybe the character just has an accent?

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


The plot is actually fairly simple at this point, it's just told in an engaging, somewhat cryptic way. Anthony Hopkins' character, seeing organic human evolution at its natural end point, is on the verge of having designed fully-functional humans using robotics, and it's hinted that he has secretly programmed them to achieve sentience, which will not be pretty--an uprising is inevitable.

Meanwhile the park is still a park, and one of the park-goers has become a total sociopath, somehow gone off the grid (almost certainly with the collusion of someone in management), and is attempting to either foment the uprising--knowing already that the robots retain memories--and/or has become the world's first serial killer of robots.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
My favorite opening credits sequence since season 1 of The Leftovers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elkHuRROPfk

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
HBO also released the "In the weeks ahead...." preview, as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwxD_L5gIrQ

Svaha
Oct 4, 2005

JossiRossi posted:

Pretty sure Dolores straight up lies at the end there. The fly swat is definitely the 100% indicator that she's different, since it was said many times that the hosts can't even hurt a fly. This is how I recall the scene going (I sometimes gently caress this poo poo up though so feel free to correct me)

Security: What did your father say to you?
Dolores' father whispering to her
Dolores: He said some obscure quote I dunno, dad be weird.


Romeo and Juliet is the opposite of obscure, dude.

The full quote:
“These violent delights have violent ends
And in their triumph die, like fire and powder,
Which as they kiss consume: the sweetest honey
Is loathsome in his own deliciousness
And in the taste confounds the appetite:
Therefore love moderately; long love doth so;
Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow.”

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Why hasn't the Westworld version of Paint It Black been uploaded yet?

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Gonz posted:

HBO also released the "In the weeks ahead...." preview, as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwxD_L5gIrQ

uuuughhhhhh who wants this?

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
For a few seconds, I thought that the old cowboy in cold storage might have been played by Ted Levine, which would have been a rad Easter egg. But then it wasn't.

Ted was on this past season of Ray Donovan, playing a casino owner in a small Nevada town. The name of the casino? "Buffalo Bill's".

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

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RugClockVexx posted:

When he was being wheeled into cold storage he was definitely tearing up, like he knew he wasn't gonna like what was going to happen next and wanted to cry about it. It was almost like that weird sleep paralysis thing we humans experience every now and then.

I'd have to watch it again to be sure, but I think he changed after the scientist whispered something to him going in, went from sad/stoic to full on tears in his eyes.

Such a promising first episode, I love that the robots are getting 'equal time' and are sympathetic characters while still being creepy as hell.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The pilot episode got 3.3 million total viewers:
https://deadline.com/2016/10/westworld-series-premiere-ratings-hbo-multilatform-1201830145/

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

This is good?

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

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Also, it's pretty hosed up that CopGuy just turned off Delores' display of emotions during his interview, he didn't turn them off entirely. She may be so advanced that it's an act, but he doesn't know that, so she would have still been screaming on the inside in his mind. It seemed like another good example in which the humans devalue the experiences of the hosts.

And yeah, I'm guessing Hopkins wants to resurrect someone as a host.
Corporate wants to make workers/soldiers to sell.
Management wants to make Pod People and take over the world? I'm guessing more than a few employees will turn out to be robots.

Drowning In Terror
Dec 10, 2008
This was a really good first episode.

Drowning In Terror fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Oct 4, 2016

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005



That's a very good number for HBO, roughly as good as True Detective s1 and as good as the end of the first season of Game of Thrones. It doesn't hurt that it was a fantastic show and should retain that number easily.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
It has also come to my attention that there's a third Hemsworth brother?!

They're everywhere.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Gonz posted:

HBO also released the "In the weeks ahead...." preview, as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwxD_L5gIrQ

oh poo poo :flashfap:

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

theflyingexecutive posted:

Yeah, and Dolores is practically a new model :rolleyes:

Oh, I have no doubt he will show back up, but as a McGuffin to get Dolores to accomplish something.

He done. He done, good.

Dude should win something for this...

Gonz posted:

The look of hatred in RoboDad's eyes as he was talking to Hopkins was just incredible. He had the look of someone who was about to kill everyone in the room and not even think twice about it; some real "wrath of God" poo poo.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:

I'm guessing more than a few employees will turn out to be robots.

The "devils" talk, along with how the displays of the area were always circular and the immense deep structure going underground, it all does have a Dante's circles of hell vibe to it. When the employees went outside for a cigarette the building they stood on was circular as well. There could be a system where the more 'perfect' a robot is, the higher a circle it inhabits.

Ignis
Mar 31, 2011

I take it you don't want my autograph, then.



Is it just me or is the audio kind of hosed? I don't remember it sounding like that while watching it.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Just finished the show and caught up with the thread, that was as good as I'd hoped for. It really seemed to have just as much in common with the original Jurassic Park novel as the original movie: a multitude of small problems that are quickly dismissed or get band-aided by higher-ups.

The entire episode was extremely unnerving, the scene with the Father realizing the nightmares that had been inflicted on his "daughter" was incredibly well done.

Edit: It was also extremely human as well- I think if a lot of people had the chance to talk to God, one of their first questions would be a cleaned-up "What is wrong with you, you sick bastard?"

Gonz posted:

It has also come to my attention that there's a third Hemsworth brother?!

They're everywhere.

I have a feeling that this one isn't going to see the end of the season. As soon as I saw the almost literal Mt Olympus the imperfect gods live on, I had visions of pale, naked robots climbing it.

Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 01:08 on Oct 4, 2016

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"

Professor Shark posted:

I have a feeling that this one isn't going to see the end of the season. As soon as I saw the almost literal Mt Olympus the imperfect gods live on, I had visions of pale, naked robots climbing it.

Oh yeah, smug prick security stooge Hemsworth is definitely a candidate to bite the dust in season 1.

Ignis posted:

Is it just me or is the audio kind of hosed? I don't remember it sounding like that while watching it.

Sounds the same to me. Have you ever questioned the nature of your auditory reality, Ignis?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

I would really like to see James Marsden turn into a psychotic robot. It would go against his usual roles, and I feel his entire existence of just wanting to save his girlfriend but always being the loser belittled by humans would be a great starting point for a violent killer.

Edit: Forgot to expand on this one

Professor Shark posted:

It really seemed to have just as much in common with the original Jurassic Park novel as the original movie: a multitude of small problems that are quickly dismissed or get band-aided by higher-ups.

One of them being that when Ed Harris walks through the saloon, it appeared that almost all the Hosts recognized and feared him. I don't think the problem is just ~200 robots, I think they all have some degree of memory

Professor Shark fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Oct 4, 2016

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

dont even fink about it posted:

That's a very good number for HBO, roughly as good as True Detective s1 and as good as the end of the first season of Game of Thrones. It doesn't hurt that it was a fantastic show and should retain that number easily.

I hope the numbers stay strong, this is a really unique show. Really loved the unsettling Ex Machina vibe

Ignis
Mar 31, 2011

I take it you don't want my autograph, then.


Gonz posted:

Oh yeah, smug prick security stooge Hemsworth is definitely a candidate to bite the dust in season 1.


Sounds the same to me. Have you ever questioned the nature of your auditory reality, Ignis?

Well I'm questioning my headphones' quality alright. Audio's way too loud for some reason?? The OP in the episode plays just fine and I don't have Youtube particularly loud so idk.


Professor Shark posted:

One of them being that when Ed Harris walks through the saloon, it appeared that almost all the Hosts recognized and feared him. I don't think the problem is just ~200 robots, I think they all have some degree of memory

He's also a very imposing man, so it could be they're just reacting to that.

El Jeffe
Dec 24, 2009

Looking around at some other online discussions, it seems that a lot of people, myself included, were expecting the world to be virtual. How the gently caress did so many people get this wrong impression?? :psyduck:

Drowning In Terror posted:

This was a really good first episode, not sure how expanded or crazy the plot will get but hope it can maintain this level of quality for a while.

Yeah I'm wondering how they're going to keep it going for multiple seasons. My prediction is that Black Hat is going to get taken care of in some way or another by the end of the season and things will go back to relatively normal, then the new seasons will have entirely new conflicts.

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El Jeffe posted:

Looking around at some other online discussions, it seems that a lot of people, myself included, were expecting the world to be virtual. How the gently caress did so many people get this wrong impression?? :psyduck:



Why would you need robots for a virtual world?

Someone posted that hopkins derided or had contempt for humanity. I read it as disappointment that human evolution has been halted, we will never reach our potential so therefore he will create something that will.

Wheres the idea that Dolores is a copy of hopkins daughter coming from? Dr narcisse had a picture of a kid

JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

El Jeffe posted:

Looking around at some other online discussions, it seems that a lot of people, myself included, were expecting the world to be virtual. How the gently caress did so many people get this wrong impression?? :psyduck:


Yeah I'm wondering how they're going to keep it going for multiple seasons. My prediction is that Black Hat is going to get taken care of in some way or another by the end of the season and things will go back to relatively normal, then the new seasons will have entirely new conflicts.

Jonathan Nolan didn't really do status quo stuff on his last project. If you haven't, check out Person of Interest, I definitely recommend it. He managed to escape the CBS procedural death grip to make a show that evolved over time while still staying true to a smallish set of central themes.

DivisionPost
Jun 28, 2006

Nobody likes you.
Everybody hates you.
You're gonna lose.

Smile, you fuck.
I find it kind of interesting that we have yet to meet the robot playing Dolores' mother. (Unless I'm missing something.)

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JossiRossi
Jul 28, 2008

A little EQ, a touch of reverb, slap on some compression and there. That'll get your dickbutt jiggling.

DivisionPost posted:

I find it kind of interesting that we have yet to meet the robot playing Dolores' mother. (Unless I'm missing something.)

Kinda? She was a dead body the one time she was on screen. Not sure if they did that to not muddle the Father-Daughter aspect, or maybe she's just a really worthless NPC, we'll see her later repeating the same line over and over as someone tries to talk to her.

"Welcome to my humble home, do you want pie? Please make yourself at home."

"Welcome to my humble home, do you want pie? Please make yourself at home."

"Welcome to my humble home, do you want pie? Please make yourself at home."

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