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That high kick opens Diego Sanchez up like he's got razors on his shins.
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Jan 14, 2017 05:24
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Thrifting Day! posted:Brunson will win in 1. That's not even a troll. i dont think so. silva is still really good
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Jan 14, 2017 05:35
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I'm biased as gently caress but BJ has got to go down as one of the greatest.
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Jan 14, 2017 05:37
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When BJ had that two-fight stretch training with those two steroid brothers who made him do exercise he seemed invincible.
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Jan 14, 2017 06:04
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Charles Gnarwin posted:I'm biased as gently caress but BJ has got to go down as one of the greatest. He has a case for the greatest to have ever done it. I wouldn't argue for it necessarily, but he is definitely all-time.
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Jan 14, 2017 07:19
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145lb fighter conor mcgregor fought the giant Nate Diaz. 145lb fighter bj penn only fought lyoto machida.
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Jan 14, 2017 07:21
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bj was amazing don't really wanna see him fight anymore though
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Jan 14, 2017 07:25
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Le Saboteur posted:I want desperately for Silva to make Brunson look like Forest Griffin out there. If Brunson uses the same tactics he did against Whittaker, Anderson will do the entire Thriller dance before knocking his head into the cheap seats. Which makes me think this is really brilliant matchmaking to see if Brunson can actually overcome his flaws and make it into the top 5.
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Jan 14, 2017 07:29
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B.J. Penn: Yair Rodriguez fight is ‘going to look like a professional against an amateur’
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Jan 14, 2017 07:41
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:B.J. Penn: Yair Rodriguez fight is ‘going to look like a professional against an amateur’ True.
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Jan 14, 2017 07:43
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lmao holy gently caress i forgot how yamasaki let sherk die vs bj
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Jan 14, 2017 07:54
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Bundt Cake posted:BJs deadly with back control Bringing his mom to the court hearing really shows his upright personality
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Jan 14, 2017 09:42
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I.N.R.I posted:i dont think so. silva is still really good He's not won a fight in 4 and a half years and looked terrible against Cormier, although granted, Cormier is in a different league to him at the moment. It seems pointless though, because if Silva wins what is next? Weidman 3? No thanks. Rockhold would smash him. I love the guy but he should give up before he become Victor Belfort
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Jan 14, 2017 11:00
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This would be a really cool game for Kinect or similar systems, since voice, facial and emotion recognition is a huge thing now. You watch your fighter onscreen and can only use voice control, and your fighters performace is affected by your pose, tone of voice, body language etc.
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Jan 14, 2017 11:10
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evobatman posted:This would be a really cool game for Kinect or similar systems, since voice, facial and emotion recognition is a huge thing now. You watch your fighter onscreen and can only use voice control, and your fighters performace is affected by your pose, tone of voice, body language etc. From my experience with the Kinect, there would be no Michelle Waterson to corner in that game. Just a whole lot of Cub Swanson. The only way you could avoid getting sued for a non-functional product is if you named it Edmond Tarverdyan Simulator.
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Jan 14, 2017 11:15
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BJ Penn was really good for a period of time, I still don't want to see him fight or talk ever again
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Jan 14, 2017 11:28
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Detroit_Dogg posted:BJ Penn was really good for a period of time, I still don't want to see him fight or talk ever again Same. He's a bit of a dick. His only saving grace was hurting the even bigger dick head Matt Hughes. I think BJ will come back just as much as a wet blanket, with 0 evolution of his skills.
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Jan 14, 2017 12:39
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Bj's timing on his uppercuts was something really goddamn special. Stevenson and Diego both got hosed up by one in the first minute, and neither recovered. In retrospect, it is really funny that the guy BJ beat to get a UFC belt is Joe Stevenson. My god Lightweight used to be terrible.
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Jan 14, 2017 13:02
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Thrifting Day! posted:He's not won a fight in 4 and a half years and looked terrible against Cormier, although granted, Cormier is in a different league to him at the moment. i know what his wikipedia page says. lets spin it this way: he had a really competitive fight, showing he could have decisively won it with a round 3 KO if only the timing was on his side, with the current middleweight champion (ie: the best middleweight in the world currently) michael bisping. that was directly before his fight with daniel cormier which he took on something like 2 days notice and a weight class up in which cormier, not wanting to derail his own career with a loss to a non contender, had to fight him really conservatively and still had a really hard time with silva for the brief time they were stood up I.N.R.I fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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Jan 14, 2017 13:49
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Weight cut health rating - Anal Creampie
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Jan 14, 2017 15:07
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bj looks like a gracie now, distressing
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Jan 14, 2017 15:31
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mistakinder posted:Weight cut health rating - Anal Creampie looks rough. hope he recovers well
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Jan 14, 2017 15:39
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Thrifting Day! posted:He's not won a fight in 4 and a half years and looked terrible against Cormier, although granted, Cormier is in a different league to him at the moment. To be fair, if Brunson had fought Silva's list of opponents, he probably wouldn't have won a fight since 2006 Snowman_McK posted:In retrospect, it is really funny that the guy BJ beat to get a UFC belt is Joe Stevenson. My god Lightweight used to be terrible. Stevenson used to be really good.
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Jan 14, 2017 15:44
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One nice thing about the "legit sports" model MMA could benefit from is people shutting the gently caress up about "oh they sucked" any time a dude or dudettes late career didn't match their earlier success Well maybe some people would stop. Or I'm really out of touch with ball sports maffew buildings fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jan 14, 2017 |
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Jan 14, 2017 16:52
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Tom Brady is a system QB.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:31
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I feel like since this is the only place I ever read about MMA, and I have only been watching fights for about a year and a half that I have some warped ideas about certain dudes like BJ. Since he seems to be the butt of a lot of jokes but I guess he is/was actually good? Two other guys that come to mind for this are Fedor and Cro Cop who seem well respected elsewhere but mostly I see goons laughing about them. I've also never watched any of them fight apart from apart from watching Cro Cop knee a Scandinavian sumo real hard and get a ridiculous watch. What are some good fights that demonstrate the highs and lows of these dudes.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:37
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Early lightweight UFC for BJ. Pride for Fedor and Cro Cop. Welterweight for BJ. American fights for Fedor and Cro Cop.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:49
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Fedor v Hendo for sure. I consider it a highlight but Fedor doesn't.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:53
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Hendo sucks, fedor sucks, crocop sucks, bj sucks. Watch Jon Jones v. Shogun instead.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:53
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a lot of the resentment for Fedor comes from his consistent ducking of good competition (especially after PRIDE, though he ducked some people in PRIDE as well) and his never coming to the UFC because of his ridiculous demands. this was compounded by the near mythical status afforded to him by other forums like sherdog where he was considered an inhuman cyborg who would destroy anyone put in front of him as opposed to the best fighter in a fairly weak division with fairly obvious flaws. there was even a huge thread on here called 'The Ecstacy and Agony of being a Fedor Emelianenko fan' or something like that where a guy would fanatically defend Fedor to the death. then he was submitted by Werdum, outgrappled and outwrestled by Bigfoot and outbrawled by Hendo which I think sobered most people up (but there are always people who think Prime Fedor is a thing). he also recently got destroyed by Fabio Maldonado, a light heavyweight who washed out of the ufc, where Fabio was robbed because the event was organized by the Russian MMA union which Fedor is the president of lol. Fedor's best ever fight is against Cro Cop, which was an incredibly impressive performance. The Randleman fight is good as well. His flaws are obvious in a bunch of fights, like Arona, Fujita, Hunt, Rogers and all of his losses.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:54
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Kuno posted:I feel like since this is the only place I ever read about MMA, and I have only been watching fights for about a year and a half that I have some warped ideas about certain dudes like BJ. Since he seems to be the butt of a lot of jokes but I guess he is/was actually good? they were all really good
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Jan 14, 2017 17:55
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The resent for fedor comes from the same place as the jokes about gsp being gay: someone said it 7 years ago and here it is still.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:57
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Kuno posted:I feel like since this is the only place I ever read about MMA, and I have only been watching fights for about a year and a half that I have some warped ideas about certain dudes like BJ. Since he seems to be the butt of a lot of jokes but I guess he is/was actually good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smSbPbOJItc
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Jan 14, 2017 17:57
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Fedor vs Crocop BJ vs Sanchez
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Jan 14, 2017 17:59
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BJ, Fedor and Cro Cop are all fighters who legit hall of famers and pioneers of the sport and at their best, probably a level above their nearest competitors (maybe not with Cro Cop, but he's still a great) though some of this is because of weaker overall competition. The problem is that in other MMA communities, they don't really like to acknowledge that the skills of legendary fighters like Fedor ultimately deteriorated due to a long career and that the game has grown significantly in recent years. It's basically sacrilege to mention that Fedor isn't the best fighter to ever compete in MMA to places like Sherdog and you'll get harassed for it, so people don't say that and just reinforce a feedback loop saying it so that they sound informed and don't get called out. On places like here, you're free to talk about the fact that while people like Big Nog, Cro Cop, Randleman and Coleman are legit wins, maybe the same isn't true about Choi Hong-Man or Zuluzinho. And maybe the fact that Werdum was just better than Fedor, and that he was out cold against Dan Henderson and wasn't infact defending himself.
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Jan 14, 2017 17:59
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It's best not to dwell on if fighters or good or not, just listen to Joe rogan intros and hope for teh comedy option. 
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Jan 14, 2017 18:08
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Kuno posted:I feel like since this is the only place I ever read about MMA, and I have only been watching fights for about a year and a half that I have some warped ideas about certain dudes like BJ. Since he seems to be the butt of a lot of jokes but I guess he is/was actually good? BJ burst onto the scene with his very first fight in the UFC, never having any fights on small shows, and strung together wins over nearly every ranked lightweight in the world including the de facto #1 at the time, Gomi. Then he jumped up to welterweight directly into a fight with Hughes, who was at the time the most dominant champ in the sport, and finished him. After being on the outs with the UFC, fighting up as heavy as heavyweight, and coming back to lose to GSP and Hughes, he dropped back to lightweight and had probably the best run any champ has had at lw in the UFC so far before losing a close fight to Edgar, who himself is a P4P great. He's also received his share of ridicule for reacting extremely poorly to nearly every loss he's had, and (somewhat unfairly) for being on a downhill slide in his late career. tl;dr - BJ's history of wins make his "The Prodigy" nickname very apt, his history of reactions to losses make his "Baby Jay" nickname equally so.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:23
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Snowman_McK posted:Bj's timing on his uppercuts was something really goddamn special. Stevenson and Diego both got hosed up by one in the first minute, and neither recovered. Yeah I rewound the clip because I honestly didn't remember that fight being for the title. I do remember Joe Daddy turning into Carrie, though.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:27
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fatherdog posted:Stevenson used to be really good. Agree
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Jan 14, 2017 18:34
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Thanks for the replies. I figured a fair degree of the criticism was to some degree a reaction to hyperbole elsewhere on the internet. I've watched BJs first two fights so far, I kind of love that era of UFC where a random guy could come in and gently caress poo poo up. Nowadays apart from like CM Punk carnival shows pretty much everyone comes in with a bunch of tape behind them. Takes away some of the mystique I guess but on the other hand it means that you actually get fighters who mostly look like they belong in the building.
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Jan 14, 2017 18:45
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