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I'm thinking of going with the RVZ01-E since I'd rather shop around for ATX power supplies since it's easier to find a high quality PSU for cheap, and I'd like 4 2.5" slots (OS SSD, game SSD, game HDD, capture HDD) without needing a shorty card, plus I'm moving the optical drive duty to some video recorder box (which will use my current SFF case) anyway, and I'll live with having an unused blu-ray burner drive since I have a better full size one. Anyone have a better suggestion?
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Node 304 will take up to 6 drives, a full ATX PSU and a full length card if so desired. Be mindful of the PSU size and card length if you go that route, though.
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Jan 16, 2017 15:35
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I'm placing it vertically and the maximum width I want the PC to have is 4.5 inches 
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Jan 16, 2017 16:05
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I'm thinking of going with the RVZ01-E since I'd rather shop around for ATX power supplies since it's easier to find a high quality PSU for cheap, and I'd like 4 2.5" slots (OS SSD, game SSD, game HDD, capture HDD) without needing a shorty card, plus I'm moving the optical drive duty to some video recorder box (which will use my current SFF case) anyway, and I'll live with having an unused blu-ray burner drive since I have a better full size one. Wait for the FTZ01-E because it's sexier and that curvel front bezel is just begging for some sort of vinyl mod.
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Jan 16, 2017 16:30
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A FTZ01-E with 70's style timber/aluminium finish would basically be the greatest.
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Jan 16, 2017 17:35
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dy. posted:I think you just need to figure out what you want. You're not going to gently caress anything up as long as you don't try to go super-small; maybe stay away from the very small cases for a first-time build. One thing to consider about the Fractal Nano is that the PSU is RIGHT NEXT to the GPU. So at least one GPU fan is going to be more or less blocked, which may or may not make it better to consider a blower GPU if the thermals are bothersome. Also throwing in my vote again for the thermaltake core v1. As long as your GPU isn't hilariously long, it'll fit it.
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Jan 16, 2017 19:32
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Well, to be entirely fair, the mitx cases that are the same size as µatx cases are much easier to work in. my brother got a µatx case about the same size as the manta, and holy crap is that thing cramped.
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Jan 16, 2017 21:59
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My first build was in a Bitfenix Prodigy and while it felt cheap and was ugly as sin it's real easy to work in
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Jan 16, 2017 22:00
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nzxt is doing a daily countdown on twitter, tomorrow is zero. so i guess, no one buy a case for the next day or two. hopefully it's an even bigger itx box
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Jan 16, 2017 22:12
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Lol
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Jan 16, 2017 22:22
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well, its not wrong. If I have the key available right on the keyboard, why not use it?
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Jan 17, 2017 00:38
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Because everyone calls it mATX so using µatx is just cumbersome? You're not wrong, that's a valid name but to me t's equivalent to thesaurus abuse.
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Jan 17, 2017 11:50
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mATX: halfway between µATX and normal ATX. Cool ⁊ good You shouldve seen the time I spelled cooperate with a diĉresis.
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Jan 17, 2017 11:58
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µATX is correct. mATX is obviously milli-ATX. 
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Jan 17, 2017 13:41
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where the gently caress is my nano-atx
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Jan 17, 2017 13:45
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:where the gently caress is my nano-atx   
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Node 304 will take up to 6 drives, a full ATX PSU and a full length card if so desired. Be mindful of the PSU size and card length if you go that route, though. The problem is width, "cube"-style cases aren't actually smaller in any reasonable use case at a desk than a narrower tower
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HalloKitty posted:The problem is width, "cube"-style cases aren't actually smaller in any reasonable use case at a desk than a narrower tower Yeah, pretty much. I was almost all set to buy a Core V21 until I did some math and realized that a Silverstone Temjim is actually smaller. cubes are still cool though
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cubes make sense if you have specific shape requirements (like shelving or something to place it on) or just really, really love minecraft.
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Jan 17, 2017 15:48
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cubes are great if you really need to stuff 8 or more drives in the smallest vertical space possible not so much otherwise
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:well, its not wrong. If I have the key available right on the keyboard, why not use it? What keyboard has a mu character on it? Or are you typing in the alt code? Either way, lol.
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AZERTY has it accessible with a simple alt+ or shift+ combination. I have absolute no idea exactly why as I can't think of a single French word or term that uses micro sign
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On the international layout it's AltGr+m, as one would expect.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:What keyboard has a mu character on it? Or are you typing in the alt code? Either way, lol. OsX has it with alt-m 
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Cardboard Box A posted:There is no such thing but Nano-ITX exists, no PCI slot, one SODIMM, used mostly for embedded systems. VIA made a bunch back when they were around.
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japtor posted:There's also mini STX now.  why yes i would like to have a huge lead box right next to my bento-box sized computer
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Jan 17, 2017 20:16
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Aside from SFF GPUs, is there any promise on the horizon for a trend towards smaller midrange/high end graphics cards? I feel like every computer upgrade I've had has been met with a larger and larger GPU.
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Jan 17, 2017 20:41
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You can find short or single slot versions of some mid/high end cards, but they are never going to move that direction as a whole because of how hard cooling becomes. More or less every medium/high end card in the last few years seems to be the same size. Dual slot and around 10-11" long.
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Zotac does have a 'short' (about as long as a mini-itx board) 1070 and 1080 (though I believe the short 1080 still has heatsink sticking out off the edge of the PCB). Asus and gigabyte also did short versions of the 970, and probably did/will do the 1070 as well.
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Dali Parton posted:Aside from SFF GPUs, is there any promise on the horizon for a trend towards smaller midrange/high end graphics cards? I feel like every computer upgrade I've had has been met with a larger and larger GPU. A bunch of the AIB Partners build them up bigger, but the reference cooler has always been the same size. The AIB Partners also have versions that are the same size as reference, but with dual fan designs. They just tend to be the less factory OCed models.
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There's a short 1060, 1070 and 1080 as well as stuff like the R9 Nano. The 1050 can be small, too. I'd like nothing more than to see wider adoption of the smaller form factor for GPUs. Gamers love sagging big GPUs though.
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I know the thread mostly cares about mITX, but would this be a good place to ask about smaller mATX cases as well? I have an MSI GTX970 Gaming 100ME (277mm), an EVGA P2 650W (165mm), and a Cryorig H7 (145mm). The former two of which I plan on keeping for now, the latter of which I'd prefer to keep, but am willing to replace. I know Silverstone has a few very small mATX Sugo cases, and the Bitfenix Phenom M (and Prodigy M and Colossus M, but eh) is also pretty small for a mATX case. As far as I can tell, all of those should be able to fit at least my GPU+PSU. Are there any other notable cases I've missed, preferably around $100 or less? I do prefer the aesthetic of the Phenom over the Sugos, though the Sugo 11 and 12 are alright. Though quality is still more important than aesthetics. I know that as you decrease case size, it gets more difficult to keep it cool/quiet, but are any of those cases particularly good about thermals and noise? I'm running a 6700K with a very mild overclock of 4.5GHz@1.296V (which runs pretty cool with the H7); should that cause any problems in such a small case? If I get a case where I need to replace the H7, do you have any recommendations? Is this a situation where I should be considering getting an AIO liquid cooler?
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The Rosewill Line-M is the smallest mATX case I've found, and it's under $50. The gaudy blue 120mm fan is entirely optional 
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They're expensive, and not the smallest of the small, but the CaseLabs BH4 is appealing to me. 22L is still smaller than some "itx" cases on the market.
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well why not posted:There's a short 1060, 1070 and 1080 as well as stuff like the R9 Nano. The 1050 can be small, too. I'd like nothing more than to see wider adoption of the smaller form factor for GPUs. Gamers love sagging big GPUs though. ...except the other AMD GPUs  . Are there short versions of any of the 4xx series?
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TDPs have been dropping too, so there should be a greater capability for smaller cards these days, but yeah, not sure the enthusiast market is there for it.
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well, people can't be stuck forever at GK209/Oland can they
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I just wish Cryorig would give an update on the Ola, because I'm that
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fourwood posted:TDPs have been dropping too, so there should be a greater capability for smaller cards these days, but yeah, not sure the enthusiast market is there for it. (I just thought of this cause I saw some article with the Akitio box today, drat thing looked as big as the Ncase. Probably wasn't, but stilled looked ridiculously huge for what's inside)
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SamDabbers posted:The Rosewill Line-M is the smallest mATX case I've found, and it's under $50. The gaudy blue 120mm fan is entirely optional Thanks, I'll add that to the list of cases to consider. Wistful of Dollars posted:They're expensive, and not the smallest of the small, but the CaseLabs BH4 is appealing to me. 22L is still smaller than some "itx" cases on the market. That does look nice, but a tad bit out of my price range  22L just beats out the SG11, the smallest mATX I'd found so far that would fit my components.I suppose I should clarify a bit, though. I'm not necessarily looking for the absolute smallest case I can get (though I'm also not against it.) I have a Corsair 300R (54L) which is much larger than I'd like. Last time I upgraded, I got a mATX board because I don't need that many PCIe slots, and figured that'd let me eventually switch to a much smaller case; when I get around to actually looking at mATX cases, most of them are barely smaller than the smaller ATX cases! I'll be happy with something around, say, 30L or less.
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