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Looks like my job might be pulling me to Alaska for 3+ months. I don't know where in AK yet, looks like Kenai, Juneau, Dillingham, Ketchikan, or Fairbanks (I can request a town but no guarantees I'll get it). I know nothing about driving conditions in any of these towns so I don't know if a Subaru Outback or Forester is good or if I need something taller like a truck. Proposed Budget: $6-8k (not firm, I'll go up towards 15k if resale value isn't an issue but I guess nothing is going to lose a ton of value after only a few months...) New or Used: Used Body Style: Truck or SUV? How will you be using the car?: I want to be able to get around during the winter, so AWD/4WD sounds important (FWIW I'm from MN and have had RWD cars for the past 10 years without issue, but I don't want to mess with that in AK). Manual or auto, I don't care (I do like manuals though but for this car I don't care). What aspects are most important to you? Reliability is very important, fuel economy not so much but I'd like to be able to get from Alaska down to Seattle without worrying about running out of gas, if I have to make that drive.
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Jun 19, 2017 13:04
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Alaska to Seattle is 2150 miles. I think you're gonna need to stop for gas.
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Jun 19, 2017 13:12
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Actuarial Fables posted:An update to the manual car hunt - my dad went to go test out the VW Golf R with my brother (didn't fit apparently), and while he was there tried out the Golf Alltrack. It apparently reminded him of his old VW Rabbit, so he had me drive over to see if I fit (I did), and then signed a lease for it the next day. I never got a chance to talk about other cars to check out. Nothing wrong with the Golf, but it sounds more like it's his car rather than yours. At least you have a data point for the future. Honestly evaluate everything about the car so as to get a good feel for just what you personally like and dislike. Then in three years go car shopping by yourself.
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Jun 19, 2017 13:30
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Not sure if you are aware of the geographical distances here friend also there are no road connections to Juneau
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Jun 19, 2017 13:37
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That newer golf alltrack seems pretty neat, but I don't think I've ever seen one in the land where subaru reigns supreme.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:13
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DNK posted:Alaska to Seattle is 2150 miles. I think you're gonna need to stop for gas. Well yeah, but I don't know how far apart gas stations are once you get into the middle of nowhere.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:15
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two_beer_bishes posted:Well yeah, but I don't know how far apart gas stations are once you get into the middle of nowhere. You're not the only one who drives those roads. There are regular gas stations, just not a lot of them.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:17
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The drive to Alaska is somewhat less harrowing than a non freeway drive across Utah or even North Dakota, it's really not that badquote:Gas, diesel, food and lodging are found in towns and cities along the Alaska Highway, as well as at smaller unincorporated communities, roadhouses and lodges located between the larger population centers. With the closure of several long-time roadhouses in recent years, and the seasonal nature of others, motorists should plan for 100 to 150 miles between services on a couple stretches of highway. Pay attention to your gas tank and drive on the top half of your tank. Motorists should also keep in mind that not all highway businesses are open year-round, nor are most services available 24 hours a day.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:18
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Michael Scott posted:I'm not an idiot and haven't been embarrassed too bad! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbhxjVvfGlE
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Jun 19, 2017 19:49
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Hello friend! Euro questions tend to get ignored but I will do my best. The Clio 4 is a bit odd, it's quite a bit bigger than the previous Clios. It's in between the size of the older Clio and the older Megane. Your friends have recommended a mix of B and C class cars which are quite different. i would recommend testing out some of the B segment cars in your price range to see if you like the size. If it's ok, I personally think the Polo, Skoda Fabia, Ford Fiesta and C3 post 2009 are the best in segment. I would probably not buy a petrol C3 though. Hello euro goon! Thank you for the reply. I guess first off, may I ask what you mean by running costs? All I really know is that every two weeks or so I chuck diesel in the clio 4 and off I go. What makes it expensive (other than fuel)? My budget was based on what you can survive on in Canada, and wasn't really based on any knowledge of th euro used car market and was a guess. Living in the far reaches of france means I need a car to go elsewhere, as not going elsewhere would likely mean going stir crazy. Would you recommend dealers? I've been advised that the small guarantee/warranty is worth the added price in europe. There look to be low milage (sub 100k, or around 120k) post 2009 207s and C3s on le bon coin for decent prices. I'm thinking diesel is the way to go? It seems to be the fuel of choice in Europe.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:58
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I want a vehicle with a third row and more storage than a Tahoe. I have an 01 suburban but want something newer. I'm looking at the 2013 LTZ suburban and they're around $30k with 75k miles on them. Is there a better choice for a Big SUV / minivan that has lots of creature comforts? I really don't want the minivan but it seems like maybe that's the route I should go. They're not very cheap either if you get a nicer trim level. I've had good luck with the 01 suburban and am leaning that way but they're so incredibly expensive...
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Jun 20, 2017 21:14
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PuTTY riot posted:I want a vehicle with a third row and more storage than a Tahoe. I have an 01 suburban but want something newer. I'm looking at the 2013 LTZ suburban and they're around $30k with 75k miles on them. Is there a better choice for a Big SUV / minivan that has lots of creature comforts? I really don't want the minivan but it seems like maybe that's the route I should go. They're not very cheap either if you get a nicer trim level. I've had good luck with the 01 suburban and am leaning that way but they're so incredibly expensive... Minivans are usually the way to go if you need a good third row. They've got lots of room for storing stuff and are fairly comfortable to drive. Chrysler Pacifica, Honda Odyssey, and Toyota Sienna are generally the top three. You may not like them, but they're worth a look.
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Jun 20, 2017 21:25
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Deteriorata posted:Minivans are usually the way to go if you need a good third row. They've got lots of room for storing stuff and are fairly comfortable to drive. So just ballpark-- I'm looking at a 2014 odyssey touring with 46k miles for 28k or a 2013 ltz with 75k miles for 29-30k. I think I'm going to test drive both. I drove a Kia Sedona or sorento or whatever the minivan is from enterprise for work and was actually pretty impressed with it. We have a 2012 accord that we really like too. I just think we'd probably only keep the minivan until the kids are out of car seats and all that. If I got a suburban I'd most likely keep it for a long time.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:47
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PuTTY riot posted:So just ballpark-- I'm looking at a 2014 odyssey touring with 46k miles for 28k or a 2013 ltz with 75k miles for 29-30k. I think I'm going to test drive both. My wife dailies a 2013 Odyssey. Our kids are grown so we don't need the space - she just loves vans. Whenever anybody needs to haul a bunch of people around, she's the designated chauffeur.
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Jun 21, 2017 03:06
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Not a bad price on that Odyssey, and lightly used ones like that are rare in my area. There are less than 5 used Odyssey's in Touring trim withing 150 miles of me according to cargurus I'd lean towards the minivan unless you honestly need the Suburban for towing or other giant SUV purposes. The gas alone the Suburban is going to suck down would be enough for me to go minivan. The minivan stigma though is hard to get over. They're great at transporting people though.
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Jun 21, 2017 03:09
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ilmucche posted:Hello euro goon! Thank you for the reply. I guess first off, may I ask what you mean by running costs? All I really know is that every two weeks or so I chuck diesel in the clio 4 and off I go. What makes it expensive (other than fuel)? I'm not a eurogoon technically I just spend about 50% of my time over here for work. If you're in buttfuck France I agree you need a car. In terms of costs, you will need to pay your annual registration, your Carte Grise, and your insurance and CO2 taxes. Some of these costs are dependent on the value of the car. You'll want to find an example with significant registration and tax paid up if possible or else you will take a quick hit early in the ownership. Granted, this is usually priced in to the car's asking price. If you drive a lot, diesel is the way to go. If you don't drive as much (sub-10k km / year) , the ~30% fuel cost difference in France is not going to make as big a difference, and petrol cars are usually much cheaper to buy. I don't know much about the guarantees, I am cautious of such things in the US but typically European law is much more pro-consumer. A dealer is more likely to let you test drive stuff, so it's a good place to look around at your options.
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Jun 21, 2017 08:27
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skipdogg posted:Not a bad price on that Odyssey, and lightly used ones like that are rare in my area. There are less than 5 used Odyssey's in Touring trim withing 150 miles of me according to cargurus I just had a new Suburban LT for a week or so. It was a really, really, great boat. Comfortable, decent ride, actually OK handling, good features. Also about 14 mpg. That alone would steer me away unless I absolutely needed to tow poo poo, as you said. Maybe also if I needed to deal with a lot of rough road and winter, too, but that wasn't a listed requirement.
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Jun 21, 2017 08:29
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skipdogg posted:The minivan stigma though is hard to get over. Yes. This is definitely a thing. master p never wrote a song about an odyssey. As far as gas goes-- I've been driving a suburban since I was 16. The "it uses 4 cylinders sometimes" is probably enough to make my gas bill go down. We don't put tons of miles on our vehicles anyway. Our 2012 accord has less than 50k miles and the 01 suburban has around 175k. But yeah. It's definitely a stigma thing I'm not even going to pretend it's not. We will definitely test drive a mini van before we buy anything.
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Jun 21, 2017 19:11
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Deteriorata posted:Got bored during the Tigers game tonight so I compiled two more model years. I'm surprised that Honda's are not cheaper to maintain than Toyota's given their relatively high resale values.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:25
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lampey posted:I'm surprised that Honda's are not cheaper to maintain than Toyota's given their relatively high resale values. Resale value is about demand, not reliability directly. Cars are desirable (or not) for lots of reasons other than repair costs.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:48
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Budget: $9k Used 2009 or better Mazda3, preferably s Grand Touring but willing to settle as low as i Touring if the price is right. Sedan vs Hatchback doesn't matter much. I'm just ready for something fresher than this 250k mi salvage title 98 Accord, the newest and most luxurious car I have ever owned. This will be my daily driver and road trip vehicle, I've got an '81 VW truck to handle cargo duty. I test drove a 65k mi 2010 S Grand Touring saturday which was stickered at $10k, offered 8500, went through the "oh let me get our sales manager" song and dance, and then their counteroffer was... the 10k sticker price, so I left. They haven't sold it yet, how long should I wait to see if they call with a better offer before moving on? There's a 2012 i Grand elsewhere that I have my eye on asking 9k but it's 100k mi, still see it as a second choice
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Jun 21, 2017 22:51
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I've never bought a car before. I have $3000 I can put down on it, I'm looking at cars from $5000-7000 all in, my credit score is around 660-680. Is that likely to work? Do I give the down payment to the lender or the dealership? I am pretty sure all $3000 needs to be on the down payment, it's a green car incentive from my work. I'm probably going to have more questions once I figure out exactly what cars I'm looking at.
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Jun 22, 2017 17:18
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I've never bought a car before. I have $3000 I can put down on it, I'm looking at cars from $5000-7000 all in, my credit score is around 660-680. Is that likely to work? Do I give the down payment to the lender or the dealership? A green car for that price doesn't leave you a lot of options. Something like a 2008/09/10 Prius, probably. You may have to check as to just what vehicles apply. The down payment goes to whomever you're financing the car with. Bank, credit union, or dealer, or whatever. You just need to bring a check for the agree-to sum to make the transaction.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:06
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Yeah, it's mostly hybrids, but not even all hybrids. 9+ on the GHG scale. It looks like there are some Camry hybrids a bit above $7000, I might be able to negotiate it down. It looks like maybe 20% is the standard for a down payment, which means I could get a $15,000 car, but gently caress that. My car was paid off in '11, my wife's was inherited when her grandmother died. I've got enough debt without adding $12,000. I'll make a full post, I guess I was waiting on clarification on what qualified, but I know now.
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Jun 22, 2017 18:56
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Deteriorata posted:A green car for that price doesn't leave you a lot of options. Something like a 2008/09/10 Prius, probably. You may have to check as to just what vehicles apply. The down payment goes to the bank? What are you talking about? You pay the dealer the down payment and finance the remaining sum. It isn't hard.
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Jun 22, 2017 19:53
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The down payment goes to the bank? What are you talking about? Duh, you're right. Brain fart. I was thinking of a private sale I made, where I took the "down payment" to the credit union and got a single check for the total, giving them the money so the loan was for the difference.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:01
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My internet research says that Subaru's dealer holdback is 2% of MSRP. What I don't understand is what the heck is the actual dealer cost, and how do you get them to sell it to you at or below that? For example, I just got a quote for a 2017 Forester with these numbers: $28,204 MSRP $26,297 "Dealer Cost" $25,797 Sell price In this case the holdback is $564.08, which is almost the difference between the "Dealer Cost" and the sell price I was offered. There's no way that a salesman goes straight to the bottom on a negotiation, right? $26,297 can't be the actual dealer cost.. JUST MAKING CHILI fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Jun 24, 2017 |
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Jun 24, 2017 04:16
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Was this from a volume dealership? Dealers make money in tons of ways. They're taking the holdback, the rebates/dealer cash/whatever, and any volume discounts. It is absolutely possible that the salesperson went straight to the bottom at a volume dealer. They assume everyone is cross-shopping them so they throw out low offers and sell a lot of cars for a very slim margin.
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Jun 24, 2017 04:58
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:My internet research says that Subaru's dealer holdback is 2% of MSRP. What I don't understand is what the heck is the actual dealer cost, and how do you get them to sell it to you at or below that? In a month or two the 2018s will be out on even more comparable models and they will not be able to sell the same car for $26k. The 2018s will likely cost a little more but they will have to drop the price on the 2017 at least $500. So they are getting a deal by selling now.
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Jun 24, 2017 05:06
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They don't look to be very high volume, never been to that dealer though. Their lot isn't massive like some of the others I've seen in Dallas, their online inventory only shows 300 new cars. What I'm really curious about is the invoice or dealer cost price. I read that since the inception of the internet, the difference between sticker and invoice prices has shrunk slightly every single year. They're not just giving up that profit, they're artificially inflating their invoice price to lock in profit they got easily before 1995.
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Jun 24, 2017 05:38
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I am thinking about buying a new car. One of my concerns is whether my car seats (two small kids) will fit in the back, because car seats are super expensive and I don't want to buy new ones for a new car. The issue is that I'm not sure what spec to look at. My current car (2009 Corrolla) fits the sits with a few inches to spare, so I thought I'd look up the specs on the corolla, then compare that to cars I was considering. I found this site, which gives a bunch of dimensions.quote:Interior Dimensions
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Jun 24, 2017 14:36
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You can bring the carseat with you when you go test drive cars and just see if the thing fits. Corollas aren't exactly massive, so you're probably ok in just about any car you'd realistically want to haul around two tiny humans in. Any measurement you get is subject to how far you need to adjust the front seats to fit you/a front passenger anyway.
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Yeah, when car seats are in play, the shape of the interior matters as much as dimensions. My CRV doesn't have a huge amount of extra volume over my old Mazda 3, but because the seating position is so much more upright, there's much more usable room. If a Corolla works for you, then pretty much anything else will be bigger.
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Jun 24, 2017 15:45
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Also keep in mind that your tiny humans will not be tiny for very long. Plan ahead and get a vehicle that will still have room for them 10 or more years from now.
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Makes sense. I'll just bring a car seat along (both kids have the same car seat) and test it in each car I consider.
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Starting some research but is there anything I should be looking for when shopping for mid 2000s Honda Accords?
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Jun 24, 2017 18:21
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Starting some research but is there anything I should be looking for when shopping for mid 2000s Honda Accords? Don't buy the V6 auto.
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Big Bowie Bonanza posted:Starting some research but is there anything I should be looking for when shopping for mid 2000s Honda Accords? White ones look sweet with a limo tint and gold wheels
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prom candy posted:White ones look sweet with a limo tint and gold wheels Just be sure to check with the DMV to see if "BIGPMPN" is already taken for plates.
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Grifter posted:I am thinking about buying a new car. One of my concerns is whether my car seats (two small kids) will fit in the back, because car seats are super expensive and I don't want to buy new ones for a new car. The issue is that I'm not sure what spec to look at. My current car (2009 Corrolla) fits the sits with a few inches to spare, so I thought I'd look up the specs on the corolla, then compare that to cars I was considering. I found this site, which gives a bunch of dimensions. https://www.cars.com/news/car-seat-check/
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