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BENGHAZI 2 posted:also arguably the best novel to movie adaptation ever considering the novel has that weird subplot about how the bridesmaid sonny fucks at the wedding has a loose pussy that comes into play at the climax of the novel The huge pussy / huge dick dichotomy is one of the most wonderful love stories ever written
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Moist von Lipwig posted:The huge pussy / huge dick dichotomy is one of the most wonderful love stories ever written But she ends up with some other dude and spends the whole book pining for Sonny because he was the only one she could feel until a doctor offers to give her pussy surgery so she can enjoy sex I don't remember why this becomes important to the plot other than it's because the doctor is necessary? I think he fixes Michael's hosed up face
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He's definitely the one who fixes the hosed up bones in Mike's face from when the cop beat him but that's all I remember. Such a good book and such a terrible book all at on d
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https://twitter.com/davidmeirrobot/status/892466293823197184 Lmao
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I have an Audible credit and no idea what I want to spend it on. Chapo thread give me a good political book or something.
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Aug 1, 2017 22:40
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Moist von Lipwig posted:Ahaahahaaaaaa
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I want to believe Matt would get a kick out of this. 
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sexpig by night posted:I have an Audible credit and no idea what I want to spend it on. Chapo thread give me a good political book or something. Nixonland is a classic D&D recommend. I've also been making my way through Dog Whistle Politics, which is good. Otherwise I tend to use my Audible for non-political books, hard to really think about what I'm listening to when I'm driving, so I tend to keep it light.
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sexpig by night posted:I have an Audible credit and no idea what I want to spend it on. Chapo thread give me a good political book or something. The Black Jacobins by CLR James
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The Venezuela things that these guys retweet make me wonder if they're this dumb about all the subjects I know nothing about too.
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I for one do not know why a left podcast with some level of knowhow on foreign policy and US Interventionism could possibly support the Maduro regime after they seen what went down re: Brazil, Libya, Syria, Honduras and Ukraine after suddenly a lot of "pro-democracy anti-corruption" protests started happening there either.
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Yeah it's weird how some people don't support authoritarian neolibs masquerading as socialist Supporting maduro for anti intervention reasons is loving retarded. That's some tankie poo poo.
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Hulk Krogan posted:https://twitter.com/alexnpress/status/892544597569810432 I wonder if the writer even tried to reach Amber.
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Kunster posted:I for one do not know why a left podcast with some level of knowhow on foreign policy and US Interventionism could possibly support the Maduro regime after they seen what went down re: Brazil, Libya, Syria, Honduras and Ukraine after suddenly a lot of "pro-democracy anti-corruption" protests started happening there either. Protests 'suddenly' (and, by implication, nefariously) happening in a country that has been dealing with rampant hyperinflation for years, has one of the highest crime rates in the continent, where a large percentage of the population have lost considerable weight due to malnutrition, where infectious diseases previously thought to be erradicated are coming back, a country with a 95% shortage of anti-psychotics, extremely high unemployment, and where one party has dominated the presidency and the country for almost two decades. Yeah that's so weird that protests would happen here, it must be the CIA. A leftist who can see how the material conditions in a country like the United States can give rise to populist and/or reactionary movements, and be angered by it (which is why we like these people), should not be justifying far worse material conditions in another country by pretending it's all right-wing plots, lies, and CIA coups. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Famethrowa posted:eyyyyy gabbagool This guys voice can't be real. This is a fake person. Hahaha he keeps taking incredibly extreme positions then immediately walks them back when questioned. Le Saboteur fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Aug 2, 2017 |
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Protests 'suddenly' (and, by implication, nefariously) happening in a country that has been dealing with rampant hyperinflation for years, has one of the highest crime rates in the continent, where a large percentage of the population have lost considerable weight due to malnutrition, where infectious diseases previously thought to be erradicated are coming back, a country with a 95% shortage of anti-psychotics, extremely high unemployment, and where one party has dominated the presidency and the country for almost two decades. Yeah that's so weird that protests would happen here, it must be the CIA. I don't know a ton about Venezuela, but yeah a lot of the left takes I've seen have been along the lines of "Venezuelans loved BOLIVARIANISM and CHAVISMO during the good times, why would they turn on those ideas when their standard of living craters?" e: on the other hand you know a bunch of "disruptors" in the military/government couldn't get on the choppers down fast enough, so IDK 
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American interventionism is always bad.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Protests 'suddenly' (and, by implication, nefariously) happening in a country that has been dealing with rampant hyperinflation for years, has one of the highest crime rates in the continent, where a large percentage of the population have lost considerable weight due to malnutrition, where infectious diseases previously thought to be erradicated are coming back, a country with a 95% shortage of anti-psychotics, extremely high unemployment, and where one party has dominated the presidency and the country for almost two decades. Yeah that's so weird that protests would happen here, it must be the CIA. padijun posted:I don't know a ton about Venezuela, but a lot of the left takes I've seen have been along the lines of "Venezuelans loved BOLIVARIANISM and CHAVISMO during the good times, why would they turn on those ideas when their standard of living craters?" Pretty much. I don't think there's much tankie style actual denial of bad things and all, I think it's just a lot of people who are educated enough to know 'we've treated south/central America as the CIA's playground for decades' but not enough to know 'also Venezuela's current system is really loving horrible and even if we agree that powerful forces like the US treating them like South American Satan hasn't helped them any it's pretty absurd to say a rash of rage filled protests against the party that's maintained an iron grip on power for decades MUST be a psy-op plot.'
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What Felix retweeted earlier was a tweet saying that the Sunday elections had been fair and democratic.
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it's not like there are any documented incidences of duly elected leftist governments being sabotaged by domestic capital hoarding resources or insurrections started by the CIA. only leftist govts must be perfect. forces loyal to the american regime only summarily execute minorities and bomb weddings reluctantly in support of our flawless friends in the house of saud.
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Antares posted:it's not like there are any documented incidences of duly elected leftist governments being sabotaged by domestic capital hoarding resources or insurrections started by the CIA. I mean, no one is arguing that? But like, there's no way to look at the past, oh, couple decades, and say 'yes these are fair elections'. You can say 'this is bullshit' without the added 'and so obviously we must fix it'. You can just say a thing is bad.
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, no one is arguing that? I was told yesterday that I'm a conspiracy theorist for suggesting that the CIA is funding the revolts. Note that the director of the CIA literally said last week that they are working with Mexico and Colombia to support the revolts. When that's the level of discourse in the US, it's not surprising that leftists are going to be skeptical that they're getting a fair accounting of the situation from the media.
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If you look at the poo poo that went on with Allende's government or even a relatively vanilla SocDem government like Manley's in Jamaica it wasn't just overnight intervention or that, the CIA agitated the gently caress out of the populace, pushing them out onto the streets to protest while at the same time squeezing the gently caress out of the economy using every possible means. The situation in Venezuela is pretty drat dire, but this hasn't happened in a vacuum and while the government can shoulder some of the blame for loving up how they've handled the crisis it's interesting that it was precipitated at least in part by the gulf petrostates that our lot have a direct line to.
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Not every leftist govt is going to perfect, but also, ordering your military to shoot folks in the street is unforgivable. Unless you are some weirdo tank and believe that literally every starving person out protesting is a fascist. Not to mention, Maduro's tendency to sell off oil and natural resources to foreign nations, suspending the constitutional rights of people living there in order to sell it, while doing nothing to stem corruption and graft in his own Chavistas, makes him a lovely, lovely, leftist. Hell, I think he is far more of a neolib then Chavez ever was. Any bad situation created by the bourgeous and the West was enormously exacerbated by Maduro. Boiling it down to a leftist government (ehhh), versus Western Imperialism (ok yes, but that was hardly the sole cause), completely ignores the on-the-ground realities, and is typical armchair quarterbacking from the internet left.
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anyone urging caution and discouraging american interventionism has the right of it imo, you should be immediately suspicious of any attempt by the US to intervene in a country's political affairs that has stockpiles of resources they've repeatedly tried to take control over like by all means poo poo on a lovely government that's killing its people but the solution is not and has never been american imperialism
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cat doter posted:anyone urging caution and discouraging american interventionism has the right of it imo, you should be immediately suspicious of any attempt by the US to intervene in a country's political affairs that has stockpiles of resources they've repeatedly tried to take control over no doubt! I don't think anyone in this thread, or who listens to chapo, would disagree with you
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yeah nobody would disagree with me sure but that's largely what I see leftists getting at, at least in my bubble, there's a lot of discouraging american intervention since you know it literally never works
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padijun posted:was tim's "I WILL NOT FAIL YOU, DOCTOR YAKUB" in the mooch/scaramucci cold open a NOI joke or something else entirely I'm missing? It's not a joke, Doctor Yakub is my daddy.
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prefect posted:Bitched about "SJWs". I heard somewhere that when George Takei finally came out, all of the original castmates were nothing but supportive. All except for Shatner, who still had reservations. Moist von Lipwig posted:only semi related but I was skimming some huge twitter thread about whatever and realized the only people saying poo poo like "yas qween" and "y'all ain't don't blah blah" were like 29 year old white girls. EXCLUSIVELY. Its loving embarrassing. Cultural appropriation is a pretty overblown concept but holy poo poo is that awful. "Everybody wanna be a n-word, but nobody wanna BE an n-word"-Paul Mooney. Everybody in this thread should watch Paris is Burning.
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Forceholy posted:
Weird... I just rewatched Paris is Burning a week ago... Its loving stellar
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A close friend of mine is Venezuelan and left two years ago. She was a lawyer there and has nothing but good things to say about Chavez. The government worked well under him and the courts were just. She said that once Maduro got in things started changing. There would be pressure to drop certain charges and other cases would be total nonsense. At first the judiciary pushed back but then bad things started happening and the courts got more and more corrupt while food shortages worsened. The CIA is almost certainly meddling in Venezuela and I'm the first to pin almost any bullshit on them but Maduro is an idiot bus driver who doesn't know how to run a country and its catching up to him. Hell, the CIA tried to kill Castro dozens of times and failed, they actually kinda suck at what they do. I wouldn't be surprised if their involvement was actually more top down and they've got people in the inside whispering the dumbest monetary policy possible in Maduro's ear. Killing a dictator doesn't kill socialism, you have to gently caress the whole system and make it look like a fantasy that can't possibly work like they did with Russia.
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However, the issue of attacking those governments is that... who are the more eager groups to go and fill those shoes once Maduro gets disappeared? "We must become more serious and admit flaws with these problematic socialist leaders in South America" becomes weak and sort of dishonest without "... and if we were to topple them, fascist ghouls will happily prop themselves as the solution to those flaws and outright destroy whatever good they did during their rule".
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I already said all American interventionism is bad. I'm just explaining my personal understanding of the situation on the ground which comes from a former lawyer there and her parents who were both diplomats under Chavez and only just got out about 8 weeks ago because they realized there's no saving it now. Sadly it probably will fall to a Junta which the American establishment will be totally okay with.
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