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BiggerBoat posted:You got me curious and so far I'm turning up nothing. I think it's just an improved chord progression piece. Yeah, same here, which is why I asked. It's a similar tempo and key to a version I've heard before, so it tweaked my memory.
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I'm only 6 episodes in but can guess where Lewis arc is heading. I don't think the portrayal is designed to make him look stupid, so much as only good at ONE thing (being a soldier) and, without that, he's lost and aimless. So him being competent at what I think he's going to become makes sense. The guy was so without direction and meaning without a war to fight that he dug a fox hole in the back yard but the only thing I can recall where they suggest he's bad at being a soldier is when his counselor tells him he didn't dig a drainage channel in his camp. SpannerX posted:Yeah, same here, which is why I asked. It's a similar tempo and key to a version I've heard before, so it tweaked my memory. I could see how you got "Time in a Bottle" from it but I think that's just a concidence and similarity in chord progression during one part.
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BiggerBoat posted:The guy was so without direction and meaning without a war to fight that he dug a fox hole in the back yard but the only thing I can recall where they suggest he's bad at being a soldier is when his counselor tells him he didn't dig a drainage channel in his camp. See, he's a really good soldier over there. Back here, he's something else.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:See, he's a really good soldier over there. Back here, he's something else. Exactly. Getting off Punisher for a second, what do you guys think of a Netflix Elric of Melnibone series? I think it could work. A Dr. Strange meets GoT thing that few people have heard of. I could see it being a sleeper hit like DD was. Or you could animate it in P. Craig Russell's style.
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BiggerBoat posted:Exactly. It might be good if they don't deviate far from Moorcock's characterization. Depends really on who's running with it from a production/direction/writing standpoint.
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SpannerX posted:Yeah, same here, which is why I asked. It's a similar tempo and key to a version I've heard before, so it tweaked my memory. very tangentially connected (not TV but Marvel) this was on my Spotify and it made my brain itch for ages before I twigged it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzjAJzcvmWs and looking at the Youtube the first comment is thinking exactly the same: "Is it me or does this song sound like a very peaceful piano version of The Avengers theme song?"
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Proteus Jones posted:It might be good if they don't deviate far from Moorcock's characterization. Depends really on who's running with it from a production/direction/writing standpoint. It would have to be someone interested in the character, for sure, but I think the fact that no one really knows who he is would allow for more latitude since no one would expect much from it. I think you could do a lot with it, especially visually and in terms of tone and style. EDIT: FInd a real albino actor waiting for a chance who can't land anything else. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Nov 23, 2017 |
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Nov 23, 2017 17:43
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BiggerBoat posted:It would have to be someone interested in the character, for sure, but I think the fact that no one really knows who he is would allow for more latitude since no one would expect much from it. I think you could do a lot with it, especially visually and in terms of tone and style. Sometimes. I am really enjoying the actor that plays Zzasz on Gotham, and he's got severe alopecia. Sometimes you can get lucky like that.
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I remember the Aeon Flux cartoon on MTV and always thought the animation looked inspired by P. Craig Russell - almost a rip off even. I've searched and it doesn't seem like it was in intentional but the first time I came across the show I actually thought it as an Elric or Russell comic.
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Wow. This show was real good, y'all. As most everyone else, I did find the whole gun control arc with the senator kinda...out of sync with the tone of the rest of the show in how much of a caricature it was, and Frank Castle has some sort of RPG character "rest for a free hours and regain your health" thing going on, but drat. I've watched all of the Marvel Netflix shows so far, and this is the first since DD season 1 that I've binged (DD s2 first half gets honorable mention; JJ also, as it was just too heavy for me to gulp down).
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punisher is the best comic book show ever because it's the least comic book show ever. EDIT - Read back a little through the thread. The complaint about a former army guy that saw action AND has the internet knowing how to wire up claymores makes him too competent is hilarious. US soldiers: dumber than terrible goat loving afghan bombers. cosmicjim fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Nov 24, 2017 |
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All y'all who are annoyed at the spineless, hypocritical gun control senator, just think of him as the mirror image of the equally exaggerated race-baiting, valor-stealing gun nut. They're basically the same caliber of politicized stereotype, just on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:I remember people were real mad about the scene where he tricks the guy into thinking he's torching him in lieu of actually torching him. That wouldn't happen in the Punisher comics, they said! That scene was great and that movie was great. Like, I get why people have issues with humanizing Frank too much but if you're going to watch him in a movie or TV I really have no interest in the lovely nihilistic MAX version.
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In It For The Tank posted:All y'all who are annoyed at the spineless, hypocritical gun control senator, just think of him as the mirror image of the equally exaggerated race-baiting, valor-stealing gun nut. They're basically the same caliber of politicized stereotype, just on opposite sides of the political spectrum. Yeah, but he gets a few more scenes and a much better actor.
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DrNutt posted:That scene was great and that movie was great. Like, I get why people have issues with humanizing Frank too much but if you're going to watch him in a movie or TV I really have no interest in the lovely nihilistic MAX version. This 100%. Give me humanised Frank or hilarious over the top Frank ala War Zone.
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this is the first Marvel Netflix show I've actually finished since DD S2 extremely toxic, extremely good poo poo. I thought Berenthal was a terrible choice for Castle at first, proving once and for all that I am dumb as heck
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nael posted:Thomas Jane Punisher was rated R, it was just at a normal R rated action movie level of violence, not as brutal and over the top as the others. Oh poo poo you're right, I could've sworn it was pg-13 despite being violent because afaik it didn't have any nudity so thus okay by American rating system for young people. man I wish I owned it I got the itch to watch it again it's been a real long time.
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Oh poo poo you're right, I could've sworn it was pg-13 despite being violent because afaik it didn't have any nudity so thus okay by American rating system for young people. man I wish I owned it I got the itch to watch it again it's been a real long time. It's on Netflix.
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RareAcumen posted:It's on Netflix. I don't have netflix cuz I tether a 15gb a month data cap 
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I never really liked 2004 Punisher because frankly Jane is the wrong actor for the Punisher, and outside of the Russian fight, it's not a very interesting movie. Ray Stevenson was basically perfect and the movie dials up how silly and exploitative the core concept is.
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DrNutt posted:That scene was great and that movie was great. Like, I get why people have issues with humanizing Frank too much but if you're going to watch him in a movie or TV I really have no interest in the lovely nihilistic MAX version. The MAX version was terrible.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:The MAX version was terrible. 
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Narcissus1916 posted:I was talking about the original xbox/ps2 entry, but I forgot about the badass sidescroller too. The best part of the one from ten years ago was the level select screen. It was all clippings from the Daily Bugle with anti-Punisher headlines. "Punisher Punches Polar Bear, Makes Children Cry."
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In It For The Tank posted:They're basically the same caliber of politicized stereotype, just on opposite sides of the political spectrum. The difference is that everybody in the thread knows someone as bad (or worse) than gun nut guy IRL, and about 30% of us had thanksgiving dinner with him yesterday.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The best part of the one from ten years ago was the level select screen. It was all clippings from the Daily Bugle with anti-Punisher headlines. "Punisher Punches Polar Bear, Makes Children Cry." 
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:The best part of the one from ten years ago was the level select screen. It was all clippings from the Daily Bugle with anti-Punisher headlines. "Punisher Punches Polar Bear, Makes Children Cry." I'm actually replaying this on pc at the moment, and I'd forgotten that there was some publisher mandate to the devs that if you did a special interrogation on a bad guy and he gave up the goods, you then lost points if you finished them off in the drill press/car crusher/electric eel tank etc. Oh, you, a murderer, told me your buddies were waiting in an ambush next door? Well thank you, off you go. Yes, very Punisher 
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That and turning the screen black and white were to escape getting an AO rating iirc
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Yeah the bottom panel was the photo under the headline.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I'm actually replaying this on pc at the moment, and I'd forgotten that there was some publisher mandate to the devs that if you did a special interrogation on a bad guy and he gave up the goods, you then lost points if you finished them off in the drill press/car crusher/electric eel tank etc. If you're on PC, I think the uncensor mod gets rid of the point reduction for killing, too.
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dont even fink about it posted:I never really liked 2004 Punisher because frankly Jane is the wrong actor for the Punisher, Go, thank you. I can never take that dude seriously, especially as a macho tough guy leading man, after that goofball he played in Boogie Nights. He seems like he should be in Coen Brothers movies or something, not playing Frank Castle.
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There’s a weird recurring theme I’ve noticed with the Netflix marvel shows. I’m working on a post about this. It’s basically all about the weird disparity that exists within fourms such as this.
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verdigris murder posted:There’s a weird recurring theme I’ve noticed with the Netflix marvel shows. Is it something like different online communities, despite seeing the same thing, might as well have been watching two different shows based on the discussion?
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NoneMoreNegative posted:I'm actually replaying this on pc at the moment, and I'd forgotten that there was some publisher mandate to the devs that if you did a special interrogation on a bad guy and he gave up the goods, you then lost points if you finished them off in the drill press/car crusher/electric eel tank etc. Actually killing the guy with the thing you're threatening with loses points, but if you just shoot him in the back of the head you gain points. It's a weird system. And going on what someone said about Thomas Jane not being the right actor for The Punisher, maybe he isn't, but his voice is perfect.
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nael posted:Actually killing the guy with the thing you're threatening with loses points, but if you just shoot him in the back of the head you gain points. It's a weird system. And going on what someone said about Thomas Jane not being the right actor for The Punisher, maybe he isn't, but his voice is perfect. I think a lot of the complaints about Jane as Punisher had to do with the way the film was written. And, to be honest, that film has grown on me a lot since it came out. It changed a lot about the character (okay, honestly, making him from Miami and not NY really changed the tone for me) but it was comic-book as hell in a good way. Really, all the modern Punishers have done a great job of playing the role in their own way (Jane was a great 2000s comic book character, Stevenson was fantastic as being a joyless, pragmatic killer, and Bernthal nailed the man who can never be home again and finds solace in endless conflict). Also, I have a lot of respect for Jane for being enough of a fan of the character to make a great MAX one-shot like Dirty Laundry for no reason other than that he wanted to.
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Finally finished it. I think it was pretty good. Marvel Netflix is now DD1, JJ, DD2 first half, Punisher, LC first half, etc. It was a bit light on story, but the characters were all solid and their motivations believable. I didn't like the depiction of kevlar. Specifically, it shouldn't be possible to eat ten submachine gun rounds to the back and just shake it off as if nothing happened, even if you're Frank Castle. Combined with Frank's incredible ability to heal and recover massive amounts of lost blood, he felt a bit too invulnerable as a character and that really took away from the excitement during firefights. I was also a bit about a 50 cal sniper round being stopped by bulletproof glass.Also also, I think these shows need to start making cops and SWAT teams a bit more threatening. The way Billy put them down one by one via headshots felt a bit too video game-y. Yeah he's spec ops but still.
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I dunno, a CIA safehouse having glass that can stop a .50 BMG doesn't seem like that much of a stretch. When you're armoring a building and can just make the glass as thick as you want, you can do a lot that you can't on a car or a vest. Nor as serious a combatant as Frank withstanding a bunch of rounds to the vest. DD's helmet protected him (mostly) from a 9mm to the face at fistfight range, so that kind of tech exists, thicker armor on a less vulnerable body part at longer range doing better isn't unreasonable. Frank's thing is also just standing up and fighting on with injuries that he really shouldn't; he's shaving years off his life because he doesn't care.
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enraged_camel posted:Finally finished it. Ehhh, with a steel plate (ceramic not so much after that many hits) in, I could buy it in a comic book show, and that vest was super heavy looking like it had a shitload of trauma panels in it. You can stop a pistol caliber round with ~1.5 phonebooks, so...
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It's also not just kevlar. It's Marvel Universe (616?) kevlar. Who knows what kind of weird poo poo it can do in this universe? If you hit it with a DC charge it might implode in a localized area enough to take out a car, there's no telling!
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RareAcumen posted:It's also not just kevlar. It's Marvel Universe (616?) kevlar. Who knows what kind of weird poo poo it can do in this universe? If you hit it with a DC charge it might implode in a localized area enough to take out a car, there's no telling! Relax, he bought it from the Vulture so it's also proof against lasers, railguns, and plasma cannons.
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Cythereal posted:Relax, he bought it from the Vulture so it's also proof against lasers, railguns, and plasma cannons. Having movies of my knowledge about comic book characters come from the movies and animated shows, it's always wild when people bring up villains that don't show up repeatedly as still relevant. It's crazy. It's like if someone's talking about Joe Chill putting Vandal Savage into a coma.
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