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Golli posted:Amazon has an article linked on their AWS | Lumberyard page that includes quotes from Carl Jones talking about the switch. Haha wow.
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This reminds me of the film Santa Claus: The Movie, where the realization slowly begins to set in
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Skadden is at a level of proficiency and competence that CIG didn't even know existed. Fear not, because Ortwin is currently rehearsing his delivery of the phrase, "This is Chewbacca".
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ComfyPants posted:Crobby! We gotta go back! Back to before the "engine switch!" Something's gotta be done about your lawsuits! This is supremely good and I wanted to let you know I appreciate your effort
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G0RF posted:Star Citizen is good and the thread is proof. Checkmate goonies.
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:I played witcher 1 and it was like pulling teeth,i've been told mixed stories of how w2 is even worse :[ drat i want to play w3 cause i've heard good things about it. I hated 1, skipped 2, but god dam it. Witcher 3 is the best rpg in the last 5-10 years
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Amazing
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Nicholas posted:The idea of a Nazi Vampire is something you'd expect to find in a B-movie, but CIG literally hired one as their lawyer. Actual quote from said nazi vampire, "I'm gunna suck"
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# ? Dec 17, 2017 16:49 |
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LOL!! wait till he finds out that what they're showing next week is just another trailer Unless SQ42 looks amazing, I'm fed up. Going to refund my $2530 package and move on from this mess. ----------------
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# ? Dec 17, 2017 16:53 |
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/209095095?t=01h03m40s Disco Lando: 'I knew I would be giving up Star Citizen when I came to work here. Like that was one of the things, that was one of the things I had to consider. When I was going to come work for CIG' 'Accepting this job basically meant that I don't "play" Star Citizen'
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I just wanted to chime in with a quick effort post about something I keep hearing the dedicated citizens say. They keep claiming that the timing of this lawsuit is suspect and that Crytek is only doing this because they're out of money/failed/bad dudes. I have a lot of experience creating and administering contracts both large and small. In a previous life I used to create large contracts as an architect for very complex renovation projects, and now I make small contracts as a service provider to architects and other designers, so I've been on both sides of these contracts. These are slightly different than a contract that a game studio and engine holder would enter into, but the tools and intents are the same. The timing of the lawsuit is in no way suspect to me. Contracts are tools that provide two things(among others): a codified agreement between two parties, and a tool to navigate this agreement and make sure the other side is honest. It protects both parties, and gives both parties recourse in case the other party does something that isn't in the agreement or is against it. During the course of a complex project, you'll encounter many small instances where one side or the other will test the contract. These are like little micr-breaches of the agreement. It's usually just something small that happens during the course of a project that neither side anticipated, or one side didn't realize was actually a part of the contract at all. When these things happen, the side that believes it has been wrong just reaches out to the other side, and what usually happens is a dialogue where both sides make their point and agree to either amend the agreement to add in for this unforseen circumstance, or the side that didn't realize they were out of line must come back in line or offer some kind of recompense for their micro-breach. This is all usually done by the two parties and is almost always quite amicable. A contract can be a kind of living document, so these changes are somewhat expected over the course of a long project, and sometimes these changes take time to make. The point of having a contract is to spell out exactly what you think should happen between two or more parties, so that no one needs to go to court. Sometimes, when one side does something that isn't allowed, it takes along time for the other side to notice, and the side that has been wronged doesn't immediately start making threats, they just open a dialogue instead. This negotiation can take quite a while and if the other party is loving up other parts of the contract while this negotiation is happening, it can complicate things quite badly and cause bad feelings on either side. The main thing to realize is that all of this takes a lot of time. If you've ever been a freelance and had to chase someone down to get a cheque or to sign off on a final version of something, you know how this goes. You phone, they stop answering. You e-mail, they don't reply. I have a "payment due upon receipt" line in all of my contracts as well as on all of my invoices. I'd say I'm lucky in getting around 25% of those cheques within two weeks, even though we both agreed. You don't get lawyers involved immediately because going to court is expensive as gently caress for both parties, causes a lot of stress, and will almost always kill your business relationship with your client. These breaches that Crytek is complaining about took place a long time ago, and they didn't want to go to a trial because they wanted to salvage what they could in their agreement. Going to court isn't something to take lightly, and is only done when all the bridges are pretty much burnt already. The reason this took so long is because it takes a long time to finally lose hope that the person or company you're dealing with is going to do the right thing as per the contract.
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reverend crabhands posted:Just because I keep seeing this argument crop up, that SC and SQ42 is one game therefor CIG don't owe Crytek another license... The RTV Ben Lesnick refuted the Reddit Ben Lesnick, even while contradicting his own refutation. (Reverse the Verse, February 5th, 2016) (Original thread drop here.) — (Ben Lesnick initiates the reverse-the-verse inverse oxymoron maneuver, a highly technical logical paradox. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME.) — SPACE COURT JUDGE: (slamming space gavel that doubles as ignition for his ship): “The Court finds the witness not credible by reason of inanity.” G0RF fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Dec 17, 2017 |
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Nyast posted:They can't do that. The contract states they must provide a compilable version. CryTek is pushing Chris into something he doesn't think is necessary. His vision is too important to be disrespected like that.
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Thoatse posted:Free Tophat! Ah, so that explains why I had to return to this thread and understand the terrible secrets of space court. Thank you!
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Wise Learned Man posted:CryTek is pushing Chris into something he doesn't think is necessary. His vision is too important to be disrespected like that. Chris Roberts doesn't have to abide by the terms of a contract! He made Stryker's Run!
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D_Smart posted:I am also considering doing an audio book of all the blogs, and all the key articles I have written. Just need to figure out if I am going to narrate it, of have a voice actor do it; since I know several who have worked with me on games over the years. I am available for voice acting, my rate is £10 a meltdown.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I love the "I'm not in a cult, YOU'RE in a cult!" response. It's the perfect amalgamation of self delusion, sunk cost fallacy, and deflection.
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https://twitter.com/dsmart/status/942430897655242752
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Enchanted Hat posted:There lived a certain man in England long ago
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Natron posted:I just wanted to chime in with a quick effort post about something I keep hearing the dedicated citizens say. They keep claiming that the timing of this lawsuit is suspect and that Crytek is only doing this because they're out of money/failed/bad dudes. Yup. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/942373527893798912.html ----------------
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G0RF posted:
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D_Smart posted:
A narcissist who enjoys sycophants? Now I've seen everything lmao
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So many good posts! I want to pay tribute to all of them but I'll just say
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Ah yes. I had another thought while I was walking the dog and would like to add to both my point and yours. Then I'll go back to my normal lurking and occasional drive-by shitposting, I swear. This lawsuit is a vote of non-confidence on the prospects of Star Citizen/Squadron 42 by one of the companies that knows the project best. Derek started hinting at this a long time ago, and whenever that started is whenever Crytek realized they weren't going to see their return on investment. They saw a sinking ship way back then, with a much better view than the rest of us have, and decided to pack up some lifeboats with whatever they could and get the gently caress outta there. Make like Crytek and a get a refund, citizen.
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Dusty Lens posted:Imagining owning yourself so hard that now you're owned by someone else. omg
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TheAgent posted:the best part is they've probably shared a shitload of cryengine code with multiple 3rd party studios to help build those ships One of the biggest transgressors there is probably going to be Illfonic. They literally made an entire FPS game out of it. Just because CIG were too stupid to merge it in in any way shoot form doesn’t mean that little boo boo didn’t happen.
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Sarsapariller posted:Witcher 3 is my personal Game Of The Past 5 Years Or So, and I think the writing is what puts it there. The open world is really well done and feels alive, the npc's are just mind bogglingly detailed, and the mechanics are snappy and responsive. But mechanically it doesn't do anything that you won't see in an Assassin's Creed or a Far Cry title. It's the writing that propels it over the top. And that is in spite of some obvious limitations in the game's conversation engine. While much more robust than, say, Mass Effect Andromeda's, after 100 hours you're still going to notice when a cutscene is using the default conversation animations. But the stories are so good you won't care. The bloody baron quest? The mission with Yenn that ends on top of a mountain, fighting a djinn on half a boat? The return to Crookback Bog? All of Hearts of Stone, all of Blood and Wine? If you've played through you know what I'm talking about. This is a good post and your call to a good game that I’ve played on one end of your storyline spectrum (Spec Ops) makes me want to try out the other. Also how can I scam Miku into buying me a hot new rig so I can play Witcher 3?
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Laopooh posted:This is a good post and your call to a good game that I’ve played on one end of your storyline spectrum (Spec Ops) makes me want to try out the other. Also how can I scam Miku into buying me a hot new rig so I can play Witcher 3? You can play it just fine on a low-end gaming rig. If only those cryptominers weren't driving up the GPU prices and the memory manufacturers weren't fixing prices (squeezing out the last $$$ before the chinese finish their factories and wreck their oligopoly), it'd actually be a cheap buy.
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While filings may be public odds are they're redacted or the entire filing won't be accessible just the first page or two
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I love this "Phrase of the day" thing constantly does in an attempt to justify everything. Each one catches on soo fast among the more avid knights, so it doesn't take long before they're all wielding it like a hammer thinking it will fix everything.
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Natron posted:Ah yes. I had another thought while I was walking the dog and would like to add to both my point and yours. Then I'll go back to my normal lurking and occasional drive-by shitposting, I swear. This post and your previous effort post were a really really good read, thank you for them
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Phi230 posted:While filings may be public odds are they're redacted or the entire filing won't be accessible just the first page or two Well, fortunately we can watch the news unfold on Redacted and get the complete story. Games Journalism May have failed this project but Citizen Reporting has never pulled punches or been on the CIG dole! ”Dumbocracy dies in darkness.”
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I really hope my conversation with Sandi somehow becomes evidence in this case.
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For a group that's not a cult I sure do learn a lot of terms relating to cults and groupthink reading about them.
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G0RF posted:
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I'm sure they'll allow Ben as an expert witness if that food analogy holds up
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Yes, imagine the paralegal that stumbles across donutgate.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I really hope my conversation with Sandi somehow becomes evidence in this case. What were your e-mails with her about. That whole mess was from before I started following SC.
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Also Derek, you claim there is something more in the pipeline that is going to blow up more than the Crytek thing. Not trying to get a leak, but will it be a situation where we paid for the whole seat but we'll just use the edge?!
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I really hope my conversation with Sandi somehow becomes evidence in this case. Note to the Skadden paralegal researching this thread for actionable material: Find that email exchange! Note to the Coutts paralegal researching this thread for actionable material: Get your money back! Note to the CIG Intern reading this thread for objectionable material for senior management: Do you really think Chris and Sandi need more crap to worry about right now? The dissent you’ve been long tasked with monitoring and cataloging has gone viral. It didn’t all originate here, or with Derek, it emerges naturally for reasonable minds paying passing attention to the non-stop marathons of self-owns, unforced errors, overpromises and undeliveries and uninterrupted lying that “filters from the top” of CIG. The true enemy of this project was within all along. They sent you here. So it really might be time to polish up that CV, file your honest Glassdoor take, and bounce to a better job at a company not in terminal decay spiral induced by moral turpitude and gross incompetence. You deserve better!
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