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PlushCow posted:For VC's skeleton warriors I liked how they marched with a jerky Harryhausen-gait, I wonder if the Tomb Kings warriors will be similar. Probably not, TK foot soldiers aren't mindless reanimated minions like the VCs. They're still generally not sentient, but they do have some semblance of intelligence and ability to think and act of their own initiative.
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Angry Lobster posted:Most of them are lost, but three of them are known: Neferata has one in the Silver Pinnacle, Zacharias the Eternal (of the Necrachs) has another one, and Mannfred Von Carstein has the last one. So, at least, this puts the Tomb Kings in a direct collision course with pretty much all Vampire factions.
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SirPhoebos posted:Perched on ancient Slagg, Mazdamundi stirs: "Friendship with Phllip Billings ended; Khatep now BFF!" this is at least partially correct, insofar as Operation We're Putting The World Back Together, Act Three, Subsection Four, What Do We Do With The Humans says "we have to fix Nehekara, so we can jam all the non-superfluous humans back in there" whether fixing Nehekara involves accomplishing Khatep's goal of returning the Nehekarans to life or just going back to standard operating procedure of Wipe All Of Them Out And Figure Out Next Steps From There depends rather strongly on how grumpy Mazdamundi is feeling today
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Can’t wait to Khemri Drift all over Boring Von Carsteins face in Settra’s pimp chariot!
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Night10194 posted:Nothing at all. The whole thing with the Chorfs is that their Dark God only has a single command: Build. chorfs are p. much the best guys ever and im really looking forward to total warhammer 3, hopefully also featuring my 2nd faves: the ogre kingdoms aka "hungry mouth & friends" 
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Asehujiko posted:What book is this? It's a Gotrek and Felix book, The Serpent Queen.
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fyi, quick and dirty for the TK heroes. - Settra is a dick, but a loveable dick. He is eternally pissed over what happened to his people and basically views himself as the true ruler of all of the Warhammer World. Antieverything. - Khalida is the best, her sister/cousin was one of Nagash's top baddies and tried to turn her. She got cured by the god of poison and snakes and now runs around murdering Vampires for fun. She's also the most pro Order races of the TK, she protects humans as often as she can, and she's basically the only one that realizes the TK aren't coming back from this and they need to protect the new races. - Khatep just wants things to be ok. He's the one that woke up Settra and told him the bad news, and for it Settra banished him. He basically roams around helping the TK's in their various pursuits, and is the only person actively working to reverse what happened. If we get actual endings attached to the TK stuff, Khatep's is probably the most positive. - Arkhan the Black is a dick and a bad person. He's got a pimp rear end loving hat though, christ.
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Ze Pollack posted:this is at least partially correct, insofar as Operation We're Putting The World Back Together, Act Three, Subsection Four, What Do We Do With The Humans says "we have to fix Nehekara, so we can jam all the non-superfluous humans back in there" It was more just me looking at Khatep's startpos and realizing he'll be the best guy to get a friendly to settle the Titan Peaks region.
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Arkhan the Black has the uncomfortable distinction of being the only person that actually liked Nagash as a person and, even more uncomfortably, the feeling was mutual
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Khalida appears to start in Lustria, near the Sentinels of Xeti. 
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Whoa I like that necron cobra. By the way, does Settra have a unique mount or is it just a run of the mill chariot.
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Khalida  her staff looks a bit like it's missing a texture in that image though 
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jokes posted:Whoa I like that necron cobra. It’s a unique magic chariot called the Chariot of the Gods, readily identifiable by being flaming (in screenshots this is visible as the wheels being engulfed in blue fire) and being pulled by 4 Skeleton horses instead of the usual 2.
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I really appreciate that Khalida is just a straight up hero powered by holy angry snake venom where her blood should be.
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See, I stopped playing after the 6th edition and a lot of the new stuff confuses me. But Khalida, the Asp Queen, apparently riding a giant loving snake is a piece of genius and I can't believe I didn't know about it sooner.
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DeathSandwich posted:
to be specific, tomb kings archers only have a ballistic skill of 2 (which, for any other race, would mean in ideal conditions they hit on a 5+ and is lovely) but have a special rule that lets them ignore any modifiers to that. cover, magic items that nerf shooting, special rules, the unit of archers moving and shooting in the same turn, whatever, they always hit on a 5+. thebardyspoon posted:"We do not serve.... We rule!". this is a slightly modified version of Settra's motto/catchphrase; the dude is ludicrously proud, will outright refuse to take orders from anyone else, and will even refuse negotiations with Lesser People (i.e. everyone who isn't settra) even if it was something he was planning on if they say it first because then if he did it it'd be seen as Settra Obeying Lesser People and SETTRA DOES NOT KNEEL this frequently bites him in the rear end but the nerds love him for it i'm expecting him to be a huge rear end in a top hat to negotiate with ingame e: in fact, the entire tomb kings thing (and, arguably, all of undeath in the setting, since nagash was originally a tomb kings priest researching reanimation) started because he didn't want to have to die because SETTRA SHOULD NOT KNEEL EVEN TO DEATH Night10194 posted:I really appreciate that Khalida is just a straight up hero powered by holy angry snake venom where her blood should be. it was that or become a vampire President Ark fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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I'm looking forward to potentially playing as an angry vampire hunting mummy.
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AnEdgelord posted:Arkhan the Black has the uncomfortable distinction of being the only person that actually liked Nagash as a person and, even more uncomfortably, the feeling was mutual Given that Nagash was a massive evil rear end in a top hat at pretty much all times of his life and unlife, this means Arkhan was pretty bad too. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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Did Games Workshop ever give a reason why they didn't extend their model line to Cathay, Nippon, and Ind? They had fairly developed lore, and more models equals more money, generally. Not that GW ever really did anything that made sense.
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What do other races think of Tomb Kings? I know their main adversaries are vampires, but what about the other meatbag races?
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Aurubin posted:Did Games Workshop ever give a reason why they didn't extend their model line to Cathay, Nippon, and Ind? They had fairly developed lore, and more models equals more money, generally. Not that GW ever really did anything that made sense. Lack of interest/demand on both GW and the fan bases part I'm guessing? Also more models doesn't exactly mean more money if no one is buying them, see Bretonnia and Tomb Kings. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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For fun here are some Models of Arkhan. His Original  His Current. 
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Lack of interest/demand on both GW and the fan bases part I'm guessing? Also more models doesn't exactly mean more money if no one is buying them, see Bretonnia and Tomb Kings. Considering they never did Market Research Until the big company shakeup a few years back maybe they could have changed some things to get them sold. The TK Model Line was awesome as the video showing it's units proved.
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Panfilo posted:What do other races think of Tomb Kings? I know their main adversaries are vampires, but what about the other meatbag races? Greenskins think they are a bad fight. Dwarfs have a few grudge wars with them over stuff both races view as theirs. Dwarfs raided TK cities and used TK objects to make stuff. TK says it's theirs. Dwarfs say otherwise. This has led to some 100 year wars. Bretonnia, Empire, and Southern Realms mainly have issues with adventurers going down to TK lands and stealing poo poo, then getting murdered/bringing back angry TKs. I don't think they even view the TKs as a faction however, just angry tomb monsters. Skaven have issues with theft, and the TK/Skaven fight fairly often over it. Elfs don't interact with them that I know of. Vampire Counts and TKs are mortal enemies obviously. Only other race that really cares about TK are Lizardmen, since according to the Great Plan Nekhara is where humans are supposed to live. All humans. Including the humans living in the Bretonnian/Empire lands, and the humans living in Norsca. Humans are supposed to be in the Southlands. NOT UNDEAD. HUMANS. THESE UNDEAD HAVE TO GO, HUMANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. This switches from "we should help Khatep turn the TK back into humans." to "just kill them all and put the other humans there." depending on how Mazdamundi is feeling that given day.
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Every time I see one of the actual tabletop models I can't help but wonder why anyone would pay a large amount of money for those. Like am I mistaken in saying they really aren't particularly good. Arkhan's original model looks like cheap, lovely plastic and his current model is way too visually busy.
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Rookersh posted:Elfs don't interact with them that I know of. Dark and high elves do on a small basis - mostly adventurers and corsairs raiding TK lands for plunder and occasionally causing a TK army to land in Naggarond or Ulthuan. Wood elves interacting with Tomb Kings is virtually unheard of, and mostly comes from bumping into each other while one is already abroad on another errand.
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arkhan the black has some weird looking colours in-game: i love his hat though 
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Rookersh posted:Only other race that really cares about TK are Lizardmen, since according to the Great Plan Nekhara is where humans are supposed to live. All humans. Including the humans living in the Bretonnian/Empire lands, and the humans living in Norsca. Humans are supposed to be in the Southlands. NOT UNDEAD. HUMANS. THESE UNDEAD HAVE TO GO, HUMANS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE. This switches from "we should help Khatep turn the TK back into humans." to "just kill them all and put the other humans there." depending on how Mazdamundi is feeling that given day. I remember reading someone post about how the TK protect some human descendants of their old empire.
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unwantedplatypus posted:Every time I see one of the actual tabletop models I can't help but wonder why anyone would pay a large amount of money for those. Like am I mistaken in saying they really aren't particularly good. Arkhan's original model looks like cheap, lovely plastic and his current model is way too visually busy. I am ok with his current one being a bit busy because there is only going to be one Arkhan in your army. Arkhan is also relatively cheap for games workshop standards. But if you want models that look like crap and then became really busy you need look no farther then Arkhan's boss Nagash. Classic Nagash. (Considered to be one of their worst models ever)  Current Nagash. (With Skeleton for scale.)  For a price example Nagash costs $105 US Dollars. While you can get started a small army started featuring Arkhan for 10 dollars less. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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More like War hamster fantasy at this point LOL
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MonsterEnvy posted:I am ok with his current one being a bit busy because there is only going to be one Arkhan in your army. Arkhan is also relatively cheap for games workshop standards. Classic Nagash was literally my first big-model purchase  and reasonably close to my last
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Skaven are also the reason Tomb Kings are fairly free willes undead. Back when Nagash was raising his undead armies and looked to be on the verge of conquering the world, the Council of 13 realized they were hosed if they let him. So they pooled the resources of Skavendom and created an incredibly powerful warpsword that would actually be able to kill Nagash. It was essentially a hunk of warpstone that violently irradiated everything around it. Of course no matter what pressure they brought, there weren't any Skaven who they could get to use it to assassinate Nagash. So they scryed around and found the final living king of Nehekara who Nagash had locked up to torture and gloat over. They sent a stealthy Skaven in who freed him and then threw the super sword at him before legging it out of there. The council of 13 then basically pooled their magic to support him, and eventually sort of pilot his body as it melted from the warpstone radiation, from Skavenblight as he fought his way to Nagash and killed him, which incidently ended up burning out the council and causing him to decomposed into radioactive waste. The Tomb Kings, now free of his control, became the fundead we love today and the Skaven managed to save the world in a way no one will ever give them credit for.
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Zore posted:Skaven are also the reason Tomb Kings are fairly free willes undead. Back when Nagash was raising his undead armies and looked to be on the verge of conquering the world, the Council of 13 realized they were hosed if they let him. So they pooled the resources of Skavendom and created an incredibly powerful warpsword that would actually be able to kill Nagash. It was essentially a hunk of warpstone that violently irradiated everything around it. Of course no matter what pressure they brought, there weren't any Skaven who they could get to use it to assassinate Nagash. Oh it's even better then that. The Skaven that brought the sword to him was dressed up like a Skaven spec ops team, and quite literally just popped open his sarcophagi, threw the sword at his feet and legged it. The Council tried to be helpful the entire time, so they loaded themselves up in this Kings mind. So as he was dying from HORRIBLE RADIATION POISONING they gave him such helpful thoughts as FASTER FASTER MANTHING, KILL KILL THING YES YES and NO THING, GO LEFT YES near constantly. They then took the spells Nagash was casting against themselves so he could pull it off, all dying in the process. That's how bad things were at the time. The Skaven were fully united and willing to sacrifice themselves to kill this rear end in a top hat.
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classic nagash has an interesting story the sculptor wanted him to have a fleshy, withered face like the other mummies, but GW was like NO IT NEEDS TO BE A SKULL so he made an insanely bad skull face and submitted it, expecting them to go 'oh well fine we'll do the mummy face' but no, they went with the bad skull
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Nagash has got a great big box of tools. Some of them are magic, some of them aren't. Some of them talk, some of them don't. A lot of them seem to stop working or otherwise fail at inopportune times. One of them pretty much always works, and is good for a lot of different things. That's Arkhan. That's pretty much their relationship. Helion fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Dec 20, 2017 |
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I think those old corny looking models have a certain charm to them. what a cutie you are Nagash!
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Blooming Brilliant posted:Tomb Kings rule, although I was always under the impression that they were one of the least bought/played factions?
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