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When I saw that ESPN was making "The Two Bills," I assumed it was about Parcells and Walsh, because I'm pretty sure the entire NFL can be traced back to one or the other.
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kiimo posted:I'm thankful for retaining Dave Toub.
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OK, here it is. Tried to find the shortest path for each, but I probably missed a few things. Many coaches fit into both trees.quote:Sean McDermott -----> Andy Reid -----> Mike Holmgren -----> Bill Walsh You could do some interesting things with this if you busted out the programming. Shangri-Law School fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Feb 12, 2018 |
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Shangri-Law School posted:OK, here it is. Tried to find the shortest path for each, but I probably missed a few things. Many coaches fit into both trees. Walsh (and Chuck Noll as well) are from Paul Brown's coaching tree
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Adam Gase was never under McDaniels AFAIK
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piss tape israel posted:Adam Gase was never under McDaniels AFAIK He was Wide Receivers coach
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I think McDermott should count for being under Rivera.
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Simplex posted:He was Wide Receivers coach I could have sworn Gase was also QB coach at one point. Maybe under Fox when McCoy was OC the first time around?
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Shangri-Law School posted:When I saw that ESPN was making "The Two Bills," I assumed it was about Parcells and Walsh, because I'm pretty sure the entire NFL can be traced back to one or the other. Your mistake started with thinking ESPN cares about anything west of Texas/north of Los Angeles.
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FizFashizzle posted:I think McDermott should count for being under Rivera. Yeah, lots of adjustments could be made. You could mandate that no coach be on the same tier as someone they worked for. You could look solely at offense for Walsh and defense for Parcells. I might have to look into this more.
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I'd argue you should only be on a coach's tree if you directly worked under them while they were HC
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piss tape israel posted:I stand corrected Yeah, McCoy was OC/QB coach under McDaniels. When McDaniels left, McCoy became full time OC, and Gase took over as the QB coach. Then Gase became the OC when McCoy left for San Diego.
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indigi posted:I'd argue you should only be on a coach's tree if you directly worked under them while they were HC That puts Wade Phillips on Marty's tree, which doesn't seem right either.
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Grittybeard posted:That puts Wade Phillips on Marty's tree, which doesn't seem right either. well McDermott and Rivera seem weird to have on the Reid tree for the same reason but what are you gonna do, put them under Jim Johnson?
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coach trees are right up there with draft tropes
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Every coach is under Sid Gillman's tree if you think about it
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SHOAH NUFF posted:Reid should count for his own tree, a tree starts from something (acorn, seed, nut) Hoagie.
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Walsh (and Chuck Noll as well) are from Paul Brown's coaching tree drat near everyone is from Paul Brown's coaching tree if you go far back enough - Don Shula, Bill Parcells, Chuck Noll, Bill Walsh, you name it.
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Someone do the Mike Ditka tree.
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1) Buddy Ryan 2) ...uhhh
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piss tape israel posted:1) Buddy Ryan Bill Cowher?
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warcrimes posted:Bill Cowher? Wasn't Cowher under the Marty tree?
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a neat cape posted:Wasn't Cowher under the Marty tree? I think Cowher is solely a Marty tree person unless I'm missing something, was with him at the Browns and then followed to KC. I guess Jack Del Rio got his start under Ditka but it seems a stretch to call him part of his tree.
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Reid and his proteges (Nagy, Pederson, Harbaugh, Rivera, Shurmur, McDermott, and you could probably shoehorn Bowles in there) are practically coaching 1/4 of the league
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coaching trees are the biggest piece of evidence that the NFL is a good old boys' club
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WHOOPS posted:i’m excited for Flip cause coming off the Eagles, i expect him to create a dynamic playbook and bring some aggressiveness to the Vikings offense that benefits the defense long term. Sucks for the Eagles to lose their coaching staff, but I like that it spreads their fun-ness and goodness throughout the league as we purge the plague that is the Patriots
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Grittybeard posted:Technically Reid shouldn't count for his own tree. If you take once removed though what does Holmgren's tree look like? He'd have at least Gruden added to that list. Gruden is on the Ray Rhodes coaching tree.
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paternity suitor posted:Sucks for the Eagles to lose their coaching staff, but I like that it spreads their fun-ness and goodness throughout the league as we purge the plague that is the Patriots Have any Bill Belichick assistants attained success in the NFL outside of the Patriots? I'm pretty sure all the head coaches have been really bad.
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Jason Sextro posted:Have any Bill Belichick assistants attained success in the NFL outside of the Patriots? I'm pretty sure all the head coaches have been really bad. BoB
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Jason Sextro posted:Have any Bill Belichick assistants attained success in the NFL outside of the Patriots? I'm pretty sure all the head coaches have been really bad. Matty P is going to win three Superbowls, book it
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Matty P is going to win three Superbowls, book it
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Man that coolaid must be delicious. The off-season is our super bowl. Let us have some happiness!
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FuriousxGeorge posted:Gruden is on the Ray Rhodes coaching tree. Gruden coached for Holmgren on the Packers too, unless you're saying he's part of both in which case yeah. Also Ray Rhodes is part of Holmgren's tree too of course. I think I'd argue Gruden learned more from Holmgren and Rhodes more from Bill Walsh/George Seifert if we're trying to put them into a single tree. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/NFL/status/963449614346137601 wow okay
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Jason Sextro posted:Have any Bill Belichick assistants attained success in the NFL outside of the Patriots? I'm pretty sure all the head coaches have been really bad. He hasn't shown the world to any of them, so they obviously don't count
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was just about to post that. This is loving great* *I'm a Cowboys fan btw
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Hope Eli likes being hamstrung E: Assuming Shula will be the one calling plays
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Hey hey hey, Frank Reich was awful as an OC under Mike McCoy but great under Pederson. Shula may shine in NYC under Shurmer!
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