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the nucas
Sep 12, 2002
requiem: avenging angel's shotgun was triple barrel and enormously satisfying. i don't think i ever really use any other gun when i replay that game. also surprised by how well it holds up. it's not as good as i remember (what is) but the dash of half life-esque open levels and kind-of-taking-it-seriously story sprinkled over it is oddly endearing.

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Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
the Thief games and Daikatana are buck each on Steam right now. Probably some others too, it's a big Squenix sale.

(I still think that the mashed together name is too fun to not say)

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


did people mod daikatana to make it better or is it still a bad game

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



c0burn posted:

The "Mozambique" in titanfall 2 is satisfying as gently caress.

They even buffed it recently and moved it to the primary weapon slot. It's so good. I still liked it more as a secondary so I could use a R-97 and mozambique for CQB blasting.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Augus posted:

Loverboy is such a satisfying weapon to use. Did any other games have a triple-barrel revolver before this?

Shadow Warrior 2 has a triple-barreled revolver called "The Triad", but I think it has a 6-round capacity (by default) so you blow your load in a couple of extremely potent shots.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
Shadow Warrior 2 also has a triple-barreled shotgun called the Cerberus.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
It also has a triple-barreled grenade launcher.

RyokoTK
Feb 12, 2012

I am cool.
It has a lot of really cool weapon design in general.

Escape Goat
Jan 30, 2009

Thanks for the BloodGDX recommendations. Works great. Java sure is an odd choice but I'm not going to complain.

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Sometimes youtube suggestions are cool. Similar to Duke Nukem phone pranks, now with JC Denton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ebd9bzopQ

It may me look like a nerd but I laughed with this one.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


So playing thru Ion Maiden again and it seems like it has headshot location damage? I’ve noticed it with loverboy and the shotgun will blow heads off it close and aimed at the head. I though Build couldn’t do localized damage?

HolyKrap
Feb 10, 2008

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Ion Maiden is running on eduke32, there's some info from TerminX on locational damage here. Not sure if they use the same method cause that thread's over 10 years old now, but it's possible

DatonKallandor
Aug 21, 2009

"I can no longer sit back and allow nationalist shitposting, nationalist indoctrination, nationalist subversion, and the German nationalist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious game balance."
Anybody familiar enough with eduke32 to know why ion maiden might run like garbage for me?

Edit: And yes, Ion Maiden absolutely has locational damage - and it makes a huge difference in time to kill.

DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Mar 4, 2018

Gloomy Rube
Mar 4, 2008



DatonKallandor posted:

Anybody familiar enough with eduke32 to know why ion maiden might run like garbage for me?

Edit: And yes, Ion Maiden absolutely has locational damage - and it makes a huge difference in time to kill.

If I understood what was said earlier in the thread, it's because eduke32 is running off code that hasn't been optimized for current versions of opengl and still thinks it's running opengl 1.1.

Uncle Kitchener
Nov 18, 2009

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Guillermus posted:

Sometimes youtube suggestions are cool. Similar to Duke Nukem phone pranks, now with JC Denton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ebd9bzopQ

It may me look like a nerd but I laughed with this one.

I want the full package.

HolyKrap posted:

Ion Maiden is running on eduke32, there's some info from TerminX on locational damage here. Not sure if they use the same method cause that thread's over 10 years old now, but it's possible

The code is still the same on the source. However, my favourite thing, the MIDI device support code was changed since Hendrix needed to update the engine for Ion Maiden :(


A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Since playing Ion Maiden I'd been trying to remember what Loverboy reminded me of, thinking I'd seen it in a movie or something, but I was actually thinking of this crazy thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StSyVLW3RB8&t=92s

I dunno, it's neat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTz4aMle71I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbDhwdjL0jo

Multibarrel guns are cool.

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner


So far my favorite Ion Maiden easter egg is the big screen full of Commodore 64 assembly code where, if you assemble and run it, it plays the opening notes of Grabbag.

I also completed the preview and still had like 35 total secrets left to find, so that's cool. This game is good.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Hell yeah, I just played through Ion Maiden too, very fun. Lot of charm and quality, to the level design especially, thumbs up.

TerminusEst13
Mar 1, 2013

Augus posted:

did people mod daikatana to make it better or is it still a bad game

Both.

There's been quite a few patches to make it better, and it's certainly playable from beginning to end, but it's still struggling against some pretty fundamentally awful design decisions.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

A great Daikatana bug is that if you start it in the original magic balls saving mode, get one of those, and then switch to normal saving, it will crash if you enter an area where another ball would be.

One thing patches never fix is that almost all weapons in the first chapter have a good chance of hurting you, and the last chapter has a most generic shooter arsenal.

The GameBoy version is just mediocre.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

SelenicMartian posted:

A great Daikatana bug is that if you start it in the original magic balls saving mode, get one of those, and then switch to normal saving, it will crash if you enter an area where another ball would be.

One thing patches never fix is that almost all weapons in the first chapter have a good chance of hurting you, and the last chapter has a most generic shooter arsenal.

The GameBoy version is just mediocre.

Doesn't Daikatana have the no-clip cheat bound to a key by default?

Uncle Kitchener
Nov 18, 2009

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Meat Beat Agent posted:



So far my favorite Ion Maiden easter egg is the big screen full of Commodore 64 assembly code where, if you assemble and run it, it plays the opening notes of Grabbag.

I also completed the preview and still had like 35 total secrets left to find, so that's cool. This game is good.

I did wonder what that was actually. Does this work on a C64 emulator?

!Klams
Dec 25, 2005

Squid Squad

Max Wilco posted:

Doesn't Daikatana have the no-clip cheat bound to a key by default?

I remember the first level gives you a sniper rifle and then throws nothing but buzzing swarms of insects at you, as you traverse like, lava or something.

I mean, on paper, said out loud, that's just obviously terrible design. Playing it was so poo poo. How did it go to print like that?

Copper Vein
Mar 14, 2007

...and we liked it that way.
Design is Law

Narcissus1916
Apr 29, 2013

Asking because I'm sitting on my PC and might actually pull the trigger - Does BloodGDX still have that weird quick save glitch where easy mode doubles damage?

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
So verdict on Ion Maiden is it’s good? How is the enemy variety?

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


There are only two or three enemy types and a boss. Dunno if that's just because it's a preview or not

czg
Dec 17, 2005
hi
I looked over at the Steam discussion page for Ion Maiden*, and one of the pinned posts is from good old boy Joe Siegler thanking the community and reminiscing about 3DRealms past.
He's got the developer tag by his name, but he doesn't appear at all in the credits for Ion Maiden. Is he connected in some way through 3DR as a publisher? Or is it just Joe being Joe?

Loving Ion Maiden. Haven't finished it yet, as I'm going slow and trying to find all the secrets, but so far it's pretty drat good.
Experiencing some framerate drops on a GTX 1070 though, I hope they can bring the renderer up to speed before the full release.

* Edit: I regret doing this.

czg fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Mar 4, 2018

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

Augus posted:

There are only two or three enemy types and a boss. Dunno if that's just because it's a preview or not

it is because its a preview. the ending slides showing screens for the full game have new enemy types in it.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


Joe Siegler Is kind of like 3D Realms animal mascot really so not surprising he’ll have a dev tag even if doesn’t actually work on the game

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing
https://www.dsogaming.com/articles/the-2001-unreal-engine-version-of-duke-nukem-forever-was-90-complete-had-rpg-and-horror-elements/

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

Man somebody better finish & release that poo poo.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014



that is incredibly stupid that they didn't finish it lmao

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Don’t care if it’s half broken I wanna play original Duke Forever and Prey.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

If Randy Pitchford was smart, he'd take those details and make a Duke game out of it.

Nokiaman
Mar 2, 2013

Narcissus1916 posted:

Asking because I'm sitting on my PC and might actually pull the trigger - Does BloodGDX still have that weird quick save glitch where easy mode doubles damage?

No. That was one of the first things that got fixed.

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

If Randy Pitchford was smart, he'd take those details and make a Duke game out of it.
He'd add random loot drops and posters with battelborn porn.

Jblade
Sep 5, 2006

HolyKrap posted:

Ion Maiden is running on eduke32, there's some info from TerminX on locational damage here. Not sure if they use the same method cause that thread's over 10 years old now, but it's possible
That was me asking that question! ...thanks for making me feel really loving old :v: I'm surprised that thread still exists.

Douk Douk
Mar 17, 2009

Take your pervert war elsewhere.

Dukes Ex

I really want this to leak. I hope to God this gets leaked in my lifetime, this sounds amazing.

Meat Beat Agent
Aug 5, 2007

felonious assault with a sproinging boner

Uncle Kitchener posted:

I did wonder what that was actually. Does this work on a C64 emulator?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/sqdl4qnyknhde7s/ionmaiden.prg

There were some tiny things that had to be fixed for it to actually work right, and I probably typoed some of the actual music due to the 8 and B looking exactly the same but you get the idea

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Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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Rupert Buttermilk posted:

If Randy Pitchford was smart,

look we can't work miracles here

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