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Leraika posted:Also. As the name says, clutch as gently caress.  So add another Forbidden Zerk Risk funbuck to the pile.
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Saigyouji posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4d7Wp9kKjA
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 Script has been updated. It now tries to be a little smarter about which info it shows you. That said, I'm not at all confident in my math to figure out when the knife bonus flips, so if you notice it being wrong, please let me know. 
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Saigyouji posted:
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Saigyouji posted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHv5jgXz9I8 (I mean, yeah this should technically be reserved for a bard, but this sprung to mind on the blissful, sincere hope of success, only to plummet into complete despair.
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Saigyouji posted:
I've been in almost this same position before. I had 2x dancer, red mage, and dragoon one year. 
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Tempest_56 posted:Alright,   (Not seen: Faris, currently jumping.) Also killed Shinryu, and I tried for the triple crown, but a Berserker just made Omega slog. Literally any other class would have been preferable there.
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Detheros posted:
  gently caress the Brave Blade. Super easy triple crown, even if I forgot to pick up Romeo's ballad
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OzFactor posted:My dearest Krile, 
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Zerilian, Saigyouji, and Berenzen your Brave Blade Hatred has been noted! That's 3/25. (unless I missed somebody, and if I did please let me know!  )Also since I didn't know that forbidden was going to give Gladiators and they can equip that piece of crap...  The Anti-Brave Blade toxx now includes Gladiators Kyro could you please update my the toxx with this info?
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Mega64 posted:I forgot to unequip the Chicken Knife. You should be proud regardless because that's a genuinely novel and hilarious way to fight Neo-Exdeath.
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So two Cannoneers aren't great against Omega but definitely possible. I eventually got it doing the following with a Berserker, Thief, and two Cannoneers: Important, Omega isn't immune to Slow so use Blitzshot + Turtle Shell and reset if you get a bad counter. Also big deal, counters don't trigger if Omega is immune to status (or it fails)! Spam one like Silver Cannon and even at ~1k per you should be able to beat it before dealing with another round of No Interrupt. I didn't even bother confusing eagles for that Float against that killer Earthquake. All who matter !Combine, agility equipment. Hermes Sandles on everyone but Berserker (blind/zombie/mini/whatever if you want). Fire Shields on the Cannoneers. Berserker doesn't matter a ton but you can try Reflect Ring and Aegis Shield, revive before Targetting if you want to try reflect targetting (use Blitzshot + Gold Needle for 3k each plus maybe Mustard Bomb). Might be worth it but keep in mind the reflect healing on Omega. Thief can't Fire Shield so heal immediately after Surge Beam. The Cannoneers wait (using !Combine) in case they get Flamethrower/Atom Ray healing. Keep an eye on the No Interrupt so you don't eat an accidental Surge Beam though. Pneub posted:Does Monk's Focus attack ignore Chicken Knife's bullshit? I've never heard it come up.
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Doom Goon posted:Also big deal, counters don't trigger if Omega is immune to status (or it fails)! Wow, that's a huge find. I love Forbidden if only because it makes me learn a lot of new things about a game I previously thought I knew everything about.
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Cannoneer sounds a lot more fun than Gladiator. "Hey, I'm just a squishier knight who can equip bows (which miss), axes (which also miss), and spears (which are entirely obsoleted by knight swords)! Also, my main ability is basically a slightly better !Dance with a chance of failing completely!" ... On second thought, maybe Gladiator is a beefy dancer instead? That at least puts a positive spin on it.
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Finished my Thief/Summoner/Beastmaster/Dragoon run with a triple crown and a full summons list. That was a surprisingly useful team, with some really great synergies. Thief is a fantastic support class, Summoner's great for nuking things, Beastmaster is great for shenanigans, and Dragoon is really good at not dying.ultrafilter posted:
I don't think anyone did this, but please let me know if I missed you.
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I have not had a ton of time to play, so my run is going a bit more slowly. I am doing a normal run and started with black mage and zerker. I just pulled bard from the fire crystal. I guess that means I have to triple crown this run?
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I tried the balance patch someone posted because it seemed like it spiced up some of the jobs that are bad/boring, and it seems neat. Monk is really strong most of the time... !Focus has a 25% chance to cast Rapid Fire. It also seems to have a (somewhat undocumented) chance to just make you waste a party member. Is this on purpose or a bug? I mean it could be on purpose to balance out how wacky Rapid Fire fists are early on but it seemed weird to me.
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Zarick posted:I tried the balance patch someone posted because it seemed like it spiced up some of the jobs that are bad/boring, and it seems neat. Monk is really strong most of the time... !Focus has a 25% chance to cast Rapid Fire. It also seems to have a (somewhat undocumented) chance to just make you waste a party member. Is this on purpose or a bug? I mean it could be on purpose to balance out how wacky Rapid Fire fists are early on but it seemed weird to me.
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Leraika posted:I will donate $1 for every completed Forbidden run where Bartz is named Exodia, up to $40.    I was worried about fighting Omega when Gilgabot decided to void my Chemist, but it turned out to be a non-issue. Between Slow, Mighty Guard, White Wind, and Carbuncle, I could survive its normal attack pattern indefinitely, and the Cannoneer trick Doom Goon posted allowed me to kill it without provoking any counter attacks. Edward_Tohr posted:Cannoneer sounds a lot more fun than Gladiator. "Hey, I'm just a squishier knight who can equip bows (which miss), axes (which also miss), and spears (which are entirely obsoleted by knight swords)! Also, my main ability is basically a slightly better !Dance with a chance of failing completely!" Cannoneer is definitely the strongest of the Advance jobs, but I think you're underselling Gladiator a bit. The access to bows and axes gives you a surprising amount of flexibility, Finisher is basically Dance but better in every way, and Bladeblitz is the best physical MT ability while also synergising really nicely with other classes.
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Alxprit posted:I can't find a single resource that lists the stats that the GBA jobs pass on. I might have to boot up an old 100% file and just manually check. They pass on their stats to Freelancer or Mime after being mastered like any class, but I don't believe any of their abilities transfer stats directly.
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Bruceski posted:Do any of the gladiator skills pass on their strength? Nope. !Finisher does, at least, have the fun insta-death when hitting a weakness property of level 3 spellblade, so Gladiator Lenna can destroy most things in the Rift without doing a single point of damage. Samuel Clemens posted:Cannoneer is definitely the strongest of the Advance jobs, but I think you're underselling Gladiator a bit. The access to bows and axes gives you a surprising amount of flexibility, Finisher is basically Dance but better in every way, and Bladeblitz is the best physical MT ability while also synergising really nicely with other classes. I mean, saying "best physical MT" is kinda like saying that Oracle is the second-best staff-locked class. Technically true, but !Kick isn't exactly a high bar to clear. Saigyouji posted:
Jesus gently caress, I didn't realize Dancers could get 6000 HP, even at level 99.
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hey red dragon, stop level 3 flaring yourself, stop level 3 flaring yourself cant believe I was unhappy about getting beastmaster
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Maleketh posted:
I often have the same issue. I enjoy the game, but by the end I just want to do the next run. All the interesting choices have been made.
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Ugh, what a good strategy for the Crystals in World 2? My group is geo, knight, mystic knight, and dancer. I got three reflect rings, so two of them are not a issue, but soon as the water one got mad it single attack did 600 damage where my party max HP is 1000 with no multi heal. I was hoping since it was weak to death that Break Blade would work on it, but that isn't the case. Also why is the blood sword so lovely? I was hoping it would be a good counterpart for the knight to heal while the mystic knight uses drain blade, but every attack is a miss.
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It's not pretty, but with Dancer and those other jobs you can do a damage counting + timing strategy. You need to keep track of enemy hp (starts at 7777), and get a desired target as close to 3000 as possible without going under. Then you have your dancer dance at your target after it's attacked. If it's a sword dance, you should have enough damage from the rest of your party to finish things off (make sure you aren't using elemental weapons that heal the target). If it's not a sword dance, you might need to heal to keep your target below the threshold. You need to be at a level such that a sword dance + attacks from the other 3 characters is over 3000, though. Probably the Dance user should be either the knight or mystic knight since they have the best available swords (again, be careful with the flame tongue) with the other one using dual grip. For the others consistency is more important so maybe don't use the dancing dagger. This is one of the more technical approaches, I remember watching Yaga do in for the Run. He had the advantage of a Tiara so the sword dance fishing wasn't quite so dramatic. e: the less technical approach is to LET THE SHIELD BURN (or have a flame ring or two) The blood sword scales off of magic, it tends to do worse than its stats would indicate. It basically casts a drain spell, so it can be resisted like many spells. FreeKillB fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jun 25, 2018 |
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Rirse posted:Also why is the blood sword so lovely? I was hoping it would be a good counterpart for the knight to heal while the mystic knight uses drain blade, but every attack is a miss. yeah, the blood sword has like 30% hit chance. 99% of the time its pretty useless, but there are rather rare situations where its good. I had a run where the freelancer had the blood sword, !rapidfire, some way to boost magic stat and that did 4K damage/heal.
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