TSLA: When this baby hits 88 you're going to see some serious shit

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Cybernetic Vermin: Apr 18, 2005

eschaton posted:

were I that wealthy there�s a ton of stuff I�d do that nobody funds right now because it won�t have massive payoff

example: clearing up the title/ownership of a bunch of historic old computer stuff, just by paying off everyone who might legitimately have a claim and having enough money to not be safe to fight for people who don�t

example: funding companies with good product ideas that can make a regular and solid profit without having to become the next goddamn Facebook (base hits, not home runs)

example: buying and refinancing a variety of debt at more reasonable levels so at least some people aren�t quite so turbofucked (but predatory lenders start to see some competition)

unfortunately actually becoming that wealthy requires a sort of pathology that means I�ll never get there

well, one thing becoming incredibly wealthy does require is a pathological need not to spend money in the way you just outlined, the contradiction is already built in

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:53

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

eschaton posted:

were I that wealthy there�s a ton of stuff I�d do that nobody funds right now because it won�t have massive payoff

example: clearing up the title/ownership of a bunch of historic old computer stuff, just by paying off everyone who might legitimately have a claim and having enough money to not be safe to fight for people who don�t

example: funding companies with good product ideas that can make a regular and solid profit without having to become the next goddamn Facebook (base hits, not home runs)

example: buying and refinancing a variety of debt at more reasonable levels so at least some people aren�t quite so turbofucked (but predatory lenders start to see some competition)

unfortunately actually becoming that wealthy requires a sort of pathology that means I�ll never get there

I'd buy Fox News and burn it to the ground, then start on my Nazis-to-kill list.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:28

suffix: Jul 27, 2013; Wheeee!

he's obv not going to take advice or counsel from the same loser lawyers that told him to settle

he'll personally waltz in with a random law book under his arm, start on his galt speech and collapse due to lack of sleep

then he'll tweet from the hospital that the judge is a pedo

i m o

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:37

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

suffix posted:

he's obv not going to take advice or counsel from the same loser lawyers that told him to settle

he'll personally waltz in with a random law book under his arm, start on his galt speech and collapse due to lack of sleep

then he'll tweet from the hospital that the judge is a pedo

i m o

I think you want the Roark speech here, not the Galt one.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:48

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

gschmidl posted:

I think you want the Roark speech here, not the Galt one.

The crowd burst into applause. Rearden whirled around, more startled than his judges. He saw face that laughed in violent excitement, and faces that pleaded for help; he saw their silent despair breaking out into the open; he saw the same anger and indignation as his own, finding release in the wild defiance of their cheering; he saw the looks of admiration and the looks of hope. There were also the face of loose-mouthed young men and maliciously unkempt females, the kind who led the booing in newsreel theatres at any appearance of a businessman of the screen; they did not attempt a counter-demonstration; they were silent.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:50

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

id spend my billions pushing right wing libertarian ideas and buying politicians to lower my taxes

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:53

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

"Men have been taught that the highest virtue is not to achieve, but to give. Yet one cannot give that which has not been created. Creation comes before distribution�or there will be nothing to distribute. The need of the creator comes before the need of any possible beneficiary. Yet we are taught to admire the second-hander who dispenses gifts he has not produced above the man who made the gifts possible. We praise an act of charity. We shrug at an act of achievement."

# ? Sep 29, 2018 21:53

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/1046144582659051520

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:14

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

incels interlinked posted:

https://twitter.com/big_cases/status/1046144582659051520

https://twitter.com/PrestonJClark/status/1046145863607709696

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:15

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

incels interlinked posted:

https://twitter.com/PrestonJClark/status/1046145863607709696

$20 million penalty and off the board within 45 days

heated game moment fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Sep 29, 2018

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:15

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

out as board chair, not ceo, unless there's something missing there

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:16

heated game moment: Oct 30, 2003; Lipstick Apathy

yep youre right

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:18

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i wonder who talked him off the ledge.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:20

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

infernal machines posted:

out as board chair, not ceo, unless there's something missing there

like the whole last page.

edit: it's in the doccloud link

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:21

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

it looks like his little "i'm not actually gonna settle" cost him an extra year off the board too, lol

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:23

gschmidl: Sep 3, 2011; watch with knife hands

What a worthless outcome. Stock will go back up.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:25

akadajet: Sep 14, 2003

what's 20 million when you're worth 20 billion?

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:25

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

akadajet posted:

like the whole last page.

edit: it's in the doccloud link

the only additional information in there is that he's also bound by tesla's corporate policy when it comes to any communication regarding tesla, including tweets.

but he's still allowed to be CEO

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:26

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

who imagined that elon's downfall could be such a bummer

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:32

FuturePastNow: May 19, 2014

infernal machines posted:

the only additional information in there is that he's also bound by tesla's corporate policy when it comes to any communication regarding tesla, including tweets.

how long until he drops acid and violates that

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

i am legit disappointed that someone managed to talk some sense into that daft motherfucker. i sincerely wanted to see him kamikaze himself into tesla over his own stupid ego.

i suppose there's still hope though. he seems like a big enough idiot that he'll manage to violate the terms of the settlement by claiming innocence, either directly on twitter, or in an interview somewhere

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:36

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

FuturePastNow posted:

how long until he drops acid and violates that

not long, i hope

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:36

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

Jabor posted:

it looks like his little "i'm not actually gonna settle" cost him an extra year off the board too, lol

ya but he's also turned this from a more quiet settlement into headline news, and what are the odds on him re-offending anytime soon?

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:37

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

arse technical's blockchain booster: actually elon musk is a brilliant engineer

also, i don't actually know what an engineer is or what they do, here's a dozen paragraphs about how this guy is just always loving up. truly a genius.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:40

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

Remember, Elon musk's only professional experience prior to becoming an investor was as a web developer

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:45

fermun: Nov 4, 2009

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776
deleting the tweet wasn't part of the settlement, it seems

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:45

Shifty Pony: Dec 28, 2004; Up ta somethin'

infernal machines posted:

i am legit disappointed that someone managed to talk some sense into that daft motherfucker. i sincerely wanted to see him kamikaze himself into tesla over his own stupid ego.

i suppose there's still hope though. he seems like a big enough idiot that he'll manage to violate the terms of the settlement by claiming innocence, either directly on twitter, or in an interview somewhere

Tesla is still potentially on the hook for every penny of losses sustained by short sellers in the days after the tweet and by stock owners who bought in the run-up only to see the stock collapse when the deal turned out to be nonexistent.

I think the estimates I saw were on the order of $3-4B

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:47

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

akadajet posted:

what's 20 million when you're worth 20 billion?

0.1%

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:47

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

going to be fun watching how he acts in response to the shareholder lawsuit, and whether he can walk the fine line of denying wrongdoing in the courtroom while definitively not denying it anywhere else.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:49

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Shifty Pony posted:

Tesla is still potentially on the hook for every penny of losses sustained by short sellers in the days after the tweet and by stock owners who bought in the run-up only to see the stock collapse when the deal turned out to be nonexistent.

I think the estimates I saw were on the order of $3-4B

is Tesla on the hook for it or is Musk on the hook for it

I bet the board will have interesting opinions on that, at most 45 or so days from now

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:49

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Sagebrush posted:

Remember, Elon musk's only professional experience prior to becoming an investor was as a web developer

*manager of web developers

**by virtue of having the money to back a project

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:49

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

fermun posted:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1026872652290379776
deleting the tweet wasn't part of the settlement, it seems

the settlement seems to care more about statements relating to whether he denied the allegation. would take a lot of work to remove all falsehoods ever presented from that account

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:50

Lord Stimperor: Jun 13, 2018; I'm a lovable meme.

suffix posted:

then he'll tweet from the hospital that the judge is a pedo

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:50

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

eschaton posted:

is Tesla on the hook for it or is Musk on the hook for it

I bet the board will have interesting opinions on that, at most 45 or so days from now

they ditched their d&o insurance, so this should be a full on loving train of lawsuits

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:51

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

infernal machines posted:

they ditched their d&o insurance, so this should be a full on loving train of lawsuits

what the gently caress

why would ANY company do that?

that�s on the level of saying �sure, put all your personal expenses on the company card, who cares?�

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:53

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

never change, Wired

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:54

Lord Stimperor: Jun 13, 2018; I'm a lovable meme.

gschmidl posted:

"Men have been taught that the highest virtue is not to achieve, but to give. Yet one cannot give that which has not been created. Creation comes before distribution�or there will be nothing to distribute. The need of the creator comes before the need of any possible beneficiary. Yet we are taught to admire the second-hander who dispenses gifts he has not produced above the man who made the gifts possible. We praise an act of charity. We shrug at an act of achievement."

"What is the greatest lie every created? What is the most vicious obscenity ever perpetrated on mankind? Slavery? The Holocaust? Dictatorship? No. It's the tool with which all that wickedness is built: altruism. Whenever anyone wants others to do their work, they call upon their altruism. Never mind your own needs, they say, think of the needs of... of whoever. The state. The poor. Of the army, of the king, of God! The list goes on and on. How many catastrophes were launched with the words "think of yourself"? It's the "king and country" crowd who light the torch of destruction. It is this great inversion, this ancient lie, which has chained humanity to an endless cycle of guilt and failure."

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:54

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

eschaton posted:

what the gently caress

why would ANY company do that?

that�s on the level of saying �sure, put all your personal expenses on the company card, who cares?�

who knows, to save :10bux:

i guess.

they had it in 2017, they didn't have it in 2018

https://twitter.com/MrMarkHandy/status/1027985874267435008

e: possibly because they couldn't get it

# ? Sep 29, 2018 22:55

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

eschaton posted:

is Tesla on the hook for it or is Musk on the hook for it

Isaacs v. Musk et al. names both Musk and Tesla as defendants

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# ? Apr 28, 2024 21:53

mystes: May 31, 2006

It would be cool if after all this nonsense the board of directors ends up firing him as CEO, but I guess they know that would cause the stock to tank.

# ? Sep 29, 2018 23:01

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