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Admiral Joeslop posted:If Vader could do one, young athletic Paul Wight could definitely do one Sure, but that assumes he actually tried one. There's video of Vader and Lesnar doing wild poo poo, we've only ever HEARD of Wight doing one.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Sure, but that assumes he actually tried one. There's video of Vader and Lesnar doing wild poo poo, we've only ever HEARD of Wight doing one. This is a fair point. Hogan told him NOT to do it anymore, so if Hogan says he did one then obviously Paul never has.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 06:38 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:I think he's like Bryant where he is safe to wrestle with but will only wrestle at top gear and is very self-destructive. Even that is tough to say though, his injury really had nothing to do with him. Dragon Lee either released the suplex when he shouldn't of or Hiromu just sort of slipped out of his hands. He does that move with a bridge pin, it’s not supposed to be released. Most likely lost his grip, yeah.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 06:50 |
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Reminder, that was Dragon Lee's fourth match in 24 hours.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 07:22 |
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Aphrodite posted:He does that move with a bridge pin, it’s not supposed to be released. Most likely lost his grip, yeah. My best guess is he couldn't pop his hip (his hips were bandaged up probably from wrestling in a tournament to the finals the night before) and let go early on purpose hoping Hiromu would just take a front bump but it was far too late for Hirmou to react in time.
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# ? Nov 24, 2018 08:31 |
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Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use
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Aesop Poprock posted:Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use Wikipedia editors are weird insular power obsessed goon stereotypes and they decided that having signature moves listed wasn't encyclopedic.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 01:57 |
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I hate it. I always enjoyed seeing if wrestlers I was just discovering had cool finishes/names for their finish. Thankfully Cagematch is still around.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 01:59 |
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There's probably one dude who for whatever reason gets to make the final call on this and is just furiously refusing to accept 99% of people noting,"Putting their moves list makes perfect sense and even if it didn't, what the gently caress does it hurt?" Last time this got brought up, somebody linked to a horrifying discussion page where some guy spent literal YEARS refusing to let Zack Ryder have his own wikipedia page and insisting that anybody looking up Zack had to read a joint page with Curt Hawkins instead. Edit: I think the page in question basically ended up being like 10% about the Major Brothers/Edgeheads, and the other 90% was intensely detailed breakdowns of Zack Ryder's solo career.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:00 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use Please, if you're ever going to listen to anything I say, let it be this one time: do not look into this. Do not immerse yourself into Wikipedia rules and decision making. Don't do it, I beg of you. It is a living nightmare.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:01 |
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The Kimoa Kid posted:Please, if you're ever going to listen to anything I say, let it be this one time: do not look into this. Do not immerse yourself into Wikipedia rules and decision making. Don't do it, I beg of you. It is a living nightmare.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:02 |
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The Kimoa Kid posted:Please, if you're ever going to listen to anything I say, let it be this one time: do not look into this. Do not immerse yourself into Wikipedia rules and decision making. Don't do it, I beg of you. It is a living nightmare. For once, Kimoa and I are in complete agreement. But the short version of this: They did it to make the articles more presentable and more likely to get on the front page and despite nobody who reads the articles agreeing with that decision, wikipedia doesn't function in a way that makes logical sense.
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Jerusalem posted:There's probably one dude who for whatever reason gets to make the final call on this and is just furiously refusing to accept 99% of people noting,"Putting their moves list makes perfect sense and even if it didn't, what the gently caress does it hurt?" It's a group and there was an easy consensus. They literally told people who complained that just because something is useful and liked doesn't mean it's important.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:05 |
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Aesop Poprock posted:Does anyone have a sum-up or list of bad Wikipedia discussions for why they stopped listing wrestler’s moves? It’s been over a year I feel like and I still get annoyed when I check out a wrestler I just discovered and it’s not there, or if I’m trying to remember what wrestlers used to use As someone who used to follow the wrestling theme song community when I was much younger, seeing every wrestler's theme song listed on Wikipedia was AWESOME and a great reference And then it went away because autism
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:06 |
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When Wikipedia first started they were obsessed with legitimacy because no one was going to take an encyclopedia that anyone can edit seriously. They're still obsessed with it in 2018 and it just leads to tons of draconian rules and insane decisions on what is and isn't becoming of an encyclopedia. They seem to miss that they're a modern institution and can use the digital medium for every trivial fact.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:07 |
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Aphrodite posted:It's a group and there was an easy consensus. Yeah, that sounds right.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:09 |
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I don't remember any encyclopedias hitting me up for money every stinking time I opened them, so they only seem to have problems modernizing on some fronts.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:09 |
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I wonder if Wiki editors care that something called TVTropes eats their lunch when it comes to maintaining a database on pop culture knowledge.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:10 |
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VJeff posted:I don't remember any encyclopedias hitting me up for money every stinking time I opened them, so they only seem to have problems modernizing on some fronts. The wild thing about this is that the Wikimedia Foundation is, by all accounts, absolutely flush with cash, and they continue to beg and plead as if they're on the verge of shutting down.
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Gumball Gumption posted:I wonder if Wiki editors care that something called TVTropes eats their lunch when it comes to maintaining a database on pop culture knowledge. That has its own extremely issues but at least it's fun to read.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:14 |
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The Kimoa Kid posted:The wild thing about this is that the Wikimedia Foundation is, by all accounts, absolutely flush with cash, and they continue to beg and plead as if they're on the verge of shutting down. There was a thread in PYF that had a derail about marketing with some people claiming that after a certain point, you could argue that Pepsi and Coke don't even really need to advertise. And on paper, that seems sensible, since even underdeveloped countries with virtually no media of their own know those names, but another poster pointed out that Coke used to have less of a stranglehold in the marketplace until one of their competitors eased up on advertising with the same logic and now that company's gone (the company's name was in the post but I don't remember). I think companies that are doing well like Wikimedia probably use the same logic, since, ostensibly, the product is free for anybody with an internet connection.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:22 |
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Gumball Gumption posted:When Wikipedia first started they were obsessed with legitimacy because no one was going to take an encyclopedia that anyone can edit seriously. They're still obsessed with it in 2018 and it just leads to tons of draconian rules and insane decisions on what is and isn't becoming of an encyclopedia. They seem to miss that they're a modern institution and can use the digital medium for every trivial fact. And after all of that they still aren't and will never be considered a valid academic source. Sorry, you pedantic dorks!
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Neodoomium posted:And after all of that they still aren't and will never be considered a valid academic source. I just use them as a backdoor source, find their citations and use them accordingly. It's a bit extra work, but it beats sweatin' a 20 page essay.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:29 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I just use them as a backdoor source, find their citations and use them accordingly. It's a bit extra work, but it beats sweatin' a 20 page essay.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:38 |
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shut uuuuuuuup
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:41 |
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I remember the dumbest loving thing from years back was one editor who kept changing the phrasing of every band name's introduction from "Metallica is" to "Metallica are" and so on The compromise (still used to this day) is articles for American bands use "is" and articles for British bands use "are"
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EugeneJ posted:I remember the dumbest loving thing from years back was one editor who kept changing the phrasing of every band name's introduction from "Metallica is" to "Metallica are" and so on I'm sure blood has been shed over the the spelling of colo(u)r
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:49 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:There was a thread in PYF that had a derail about marketing with some people claiming that after a certain point, you could argue that Pepsi and Coke don't even really need to advertise. And on paper, that seems sensible, since even underdeveloped countries with virtually no media of their own know those names, but another poster pointed out that Coke used to have less of a stranglehold in the marketplace until one of their competitors eased up on advertising with the same logic and now that company's gone (the company's name was in the post but I don't remember). I think companies that are doing well like Wikimedia probably use the same logic, since, ostensibly, the product is free for anybody with an internet connection. It was Moxie
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:50 |
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"are" implies collective ownership while "is" is more corporate,
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:51 |
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Alaois posted:It was Moxie Thanks!
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 02:51 |
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also, just a small contribution to Wikipedia's weirdness about wrestling Joey Janela doesn't have a wikipedia page
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:02 |
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Alaois posted:also, just a small contribution to Wikipedia's weirdness about wrestling I wouldn't be surprised if someone created a Joey Janela article only for some dumbshit to say "BBBBBUT I DONT KNOW WHO THIS IS" and nominate it for speedy deletion.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:07 |
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Alaois posted:also, just a small contribution to Wikipedia's weirdness about wrestling lol I looked it up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Joey_Janela
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:07 |
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Ahaha my God this is so unbelievably petty. Do they think Joey Janela's Spring Break is made up?
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:37 |
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NotTheFakeJTP: Joey Janela isn't a real or noteworthy person also NotTheFakeJTP: here's my wiki page on Paris-based Overwatch esports team 'Paris Eternal': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Eternal
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:43 |
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Jerusalem posted:Ahaha my God this is so unbelievably petty. Do they think Joey Janela's Spring Break is made up? They want sources that aren't in the pro wrestling bubble. Really that isnt being petty, most articles site wide are supposed to be like that. Y'all are as bad as Bryan Alvarez in trying to cross the barrier between pro wrestling and the rest of the world.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:46 |
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Jerusalem posted:Ahaha my God this is so unbelievably petty. Do they think Joey Janela's Spring Break is made up? exploded mummy posted:They want sources that aren't in the pro wrestling bubble.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:48 |
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Helicity posted:NotTheFakeJTP: Joey Janela isn't a real or noteworthy person paris eternal has significant funding and esports are on the mainstream right now with regular coverage from most major sports media outlets. not discrediting the creation of joey janela, he certainly merits his own page after helping promote several cards that were able to draw independently.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:51 |
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STONE COLD 64 posted:paris eternal has significant funding and esports are on the mainstream right now with regular coverage from most major sports media outlets. not discrediting the creation of joey janela, he certainly merits his own page after helping promote several cards that were able to draw independently. But apparently if a site covers a sport as it's main focus, it doesn't count as a source. Surely they must be in the papers.
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# ? Nov 25, 2018 03:54 |
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No one actually cares about professional gaming, they only pretend to because they assume teens care. Also it's not a sport, stop letting them get away with calling it sports.
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