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GreenNight posted:Ask Sarah Hitchcock how much she loves our scheme of first initial last name. The two most unfortunate usernames I've come across so far in that format are "slutz" and "mostdick". "garbo" was also funny but nowhere near as horrible.
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At $JOB-1, we had a weird username scheme: first two of first name, first four of last name. Legend has it the guy who set up AD originally did this so his username came out to "master" 
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Mar 8, 2019 16:30
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‘First initial, last name, optional number for multiples’ resulted in some good ones here: chill@, scary@, dlong1@...
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Mar 8, 2019 17:20
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mllaneza posted:People need to stop using PII as primary keys and switch to GUIDs loving everywhere. The problem with this bit is that many applications use the NameIdentifier as the users email addresses and/or Display Name. This obviously a terrible decision on the developers part and no one wants type in or see babf984eeba0e095a07856aa74df677e as their username.
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Mar 8, 2019 17:20
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just use SSN as usernames easy
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Mar 8, 2019 17:21
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Paul ReiserFS posted:‘First initial, last name, optional number for multiples’ resulted in some good ones here: chill@, scary@, dlong1@... I worked with a beastman
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Mar 8, 2019 17:21
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Fellatio del Toro posted:just use SSN as usernames easy
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Mar 8, 2019 17:23
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Thanatosian posted:I am legitimately more comfortable giving out my SSN than my personal cell phone number. Slightly related. I have no idea what in the hell is going on but I have over 50+ numbers blocked in my phone because someone keeps trying to sell me health insurance. The do not call list does nothing.
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Mar 8, 2019 17:25
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I've always hoped for a Don Glover to work here. Alas...
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Mar 8, 2019 17:27
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Docjowles posted:The two most unfortunate usernames I've come across so far in that format are "slutz" and "mostdick". "garbo" was also funny but nowhere near as horrible. I mean, “East Dick” is already kinda funny?
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Mar 8, 2019 17:28
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Oh god I'm applying for a job that still uses Windows Server 2000/2003 
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Mar 8, 2019 18:21
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SSH IT ZOMBIE posted:You aren’t. Employee numbers! Haha. We many many employees with multiple employee numbers at HR, that all need to link with the same user account. They have multiple employee numbers because they're working multiple jobs within the org.
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Mar 8, 2019 18:43
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Oh god I'm applying for a job that still uses Windows Server 2000/2003 Do you hate yourself?
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Mar 8, 2019 18:49
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My job took everyone out to see Captain Marvel today.
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Mar 8, 2019 19:21
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TheFace posted:I worked with a beastman There was a Mary Orgas who worked in CPS when I was in govt (last name first initial) and being government they refused to change her email alias for some reason until they got complaints from the public. Her actual username was still orgasm tho
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Mar 8, 2019 19:23
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Oh god I'm applying for a job that still uses Windows Server 2000/2003 Manufacturing or just bad at IT? Cause lol I still have DOS 6.22 stuff that's just now being decommissioned as the machine center in question is finally getting a controls upgrade. Have piles of Windows Server 2003 and every possible flavor from then on up doing stuff in various places. I'm just happy we're almost there on getting the last of the lovely white boxes sitting under consoles/desks virtualized. Ask me about network usb hubs holding piles of loving dongles to allow us to virtualize horrible software that still uses them.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Oh god I'm applying for a job that still uses Windows Server 2000/2003 You might be able to ask for more money, plenty of candidates have probably seen that and just noped right out of that process. Or follow their lead and skip on it yourself if that's an option, it's not a good sign for anything else there.
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Tab8715 posted:The problem with this bit is that many applications use the NameIdentifier as the users email addresses and/or Display Name. This obviously a terrible decision on the developers part and no one wants type in or see babf984eeba0e095a07856aa74df677e as their username. Eh and email addresses are sometimes reused, relying on the x500 to differentiate. The SID is always the way to go internally for a user imo
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Cause lol I still have DOS 6.22 stuff that's just now being decommissioned as the machine center in question is finally getting a controls upgrade. That beats us, our oldest known machine is Win 3.11
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Mar 8, 2019 20:00
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Manufacturing or just bad at IT? My old job made software for lab testing (chemical, food, petro, meds, etc) and customers had old rear end stuff in the lab and a few Windows 2000 boxes. I'm talking Fortune 100 companies too. Once a lab has their testing procedures down they will NOT change that poo poo for anyone or anything
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Mar 8, 2019 20:43
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Manufacturing or just bad at IT? Public school system that according to Wikipedia spends less than 3% of their budget on supplies and equipment. It’s a contract with mediocre pay, but it will pay the bills while I find something else. 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Mar 8, 2019 |
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Mar 8, 2019 20:46
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As fun as it would be to watch, I don't want you to become the next larches
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Mar 8, 2019 20:48
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Yea but he’s also jobless atm I think so it’s better than nothing.
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Mar 8, 2019 20:53
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Yeah, I need a job right the gently caress now if I'm going to make rent this month.
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Mar 8, 2019 21:29
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So we've got a bit of a dilemma. All of our machines are on Windows LTSB. We bought a new Surface Book 2 with a GTX 1070. Unfortunately the GTX 1070 drivers are unsupported on Windows 10 LTSB. You have to be on the latest version of Current Branch for that. Whoops, oh well. Now, we need to buy a desktop/laptop from HP for photo/video editing, and it needs to be reasonably capable. It will be a production machine for the local TV station. Here's where the problem comes in. We need to recommend something that the IT department will support (HP or Microsoft Surface on Win10 LTSB) but it also needs to be capable (has supported graphics drivers for Win10 LTSB). How the gently caress do I even go about getting a matrix of what hardware is supported on LTSB? I've tried reaching out to our CDWG sales rep, HP, Microsoft AND Nvidia, but the only one who has responded so far is our sales rep. He basically said "HP won't support it if you install a new OS" which is so far off base from what I'm actually asking that its practically a home run.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:Ask me about network usb hubs holding piles of loving dongles to allow us to virtualize horrible software that still uses them. Oh oh I'm now in your boat! One client I was given is a manufacturer of some widgts: (I have not smelled so much hydraulic fluid in a while) and they have the same thing, except I think it's to license more than just virtualized software? I dunno, it's some wizardry that was setup by the previous guy. This company also bought training software from a company that is selling off their assets, it has been fun to setup considering that business consists of the owner and his wife, both of whom after 60+ and are not technical at all. Thankfully the owner was able to find some guy that installed the software successfully and he gave me the scoop on how to get the shitheap installed and (mostly) working. Thanks random IT goon, also thank you for your candidness in how awful the software is, I'm sorry my dumb client forwarded it to the software owner, so he knows you would definitely laugh as he got stabbed in a back alley.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:So we've got a bit of a dilemma. I had no idea what Windows LTSB was, so I started reading on it. Why in the world would anyone deploy this unless you were somewhere that had high security requirements or hated your users? Old Technet Article posted:Q: Will the devices have Microsoft Office installed? WTF?
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Nuclearmonkee posted:There was a Mary Orgas who worked in CPS when I was in govt (last name first initial) and being government they refused to change her email alias for some reason until they got complaints from the public. OK, this may be the best one so far
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Bonzo posted:My old job made software for lab testing (chemical, food, petro, meds, etc) and customers had old rear end stuff in the lab and a few Windows 2000 boxes. I'm talking Fortune 100 companies too. Once a lab has their testing procedures down they will NOT change that poo poo for anyone or anything It's not just testing procedures. Once a system has been validated to a specific configuration you have to leave it that way. Unauthorized changes require paperwork that the, in our case, FDA is copied on. When they do an inspection, they spot check systems against their paperwork. Any deviation could result in a fine. The "specific configuration" I mentioned ? Dozens of pages. "Open Local Security Policies, set this setting to this value. Initial the box to show completion. Set this other setting to its correct value. Initial the next box." And yes, that's done on paper. Which is retained for years. The big benefit of using the LTSB/LTSC for those applications is that if there aren't any patches, some rear end in a top hat in corporate IT in, say, Europe can't push a patch that forces a reboot to lab systems. Which just happened. And resulted in a failed run and lost data. My understanding is that there's a poo poo tsunami working it's way up the hill until it sloshes over and rolls downhill into our corporate masters' laps. Old systems stay in production until the hardware fails for lots of reasons. The vendor charges $10k to send a tech to reinstall the software sometime next week. The vendor is out of business and you can't reinstall if you gently caress with the OS. I spoke to a lab manager about an XP system that runs a gas chromatograph earlier this week. Her GC is old, and the control software that runs it doesn't run on Win 7, let alone 10. We could probably pull an unused newer one out of the warehouse (think 'the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark') and get her up to at least 7 and a newer PC to run it on. But a $90,000 gas chromatograph isn't an appliance, it's a platform and takes a few weeks of configuration, calibration, and testing before it can do science for her. That's out of the question. We did get it into the backup system and we got a good image. I actually spent almost all day dealing with an LTSB issue. Corporate released a 2.0 of our LTSB image recently and it's had some activation issues. Some bright person in local Engineering decided the best way to test activation issues was to make sure we had 25+1 systems hitting the activation server (don't ask me, something bizarre about Enterprise licensing). All eyes turn to the new guy in the group (me), who happens to have a Centos emu/kvm box in his cube. I grab the .iso and fire up a new VM. Task sequence errors one after the other trying to set up Bitlocker. I fiddle with VM settings, google the error message, and then grab someone who knows the imaging process better than I do. We dig through the logs and I spot "is Fisical" not too far before the Bitlocker failure. We track down the script that generated that message (HDWarning.ps1) and discover that isVM() is checking against an enumerated list of hypervisors. We already know qemu/kvm on that specific box supports Bitlocker, because I've restored backups that run with it enabled. Time to fix the script. I dump the .iso into a folder and start digging. It's in boot.wmi. .wmi disk images are managed by an exotic, and arcane by any standards, command line tool. I get that image mounted, re-define isVM() to {return $true}. Update and unmount the .wmi and go looking for a tool to turn a folder into a .iso. Every website with a tool for that is blocked by security. I need to get all 20GB onto my Mac and use hdiutil to make the image. That last bit had just under an hour of file transfers to go when my supervisor drops by and says that someone checked, we've had way more than 25 of the new LTSB systems hit the activation server. Corporate IT pushed an image we didn't have a license for. I let it finish, I'll want that .iso for testing anyway. All this, and I'm not even working on validated systems yet.
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CaptainGimpy posted:somewhere that had high security requirements I mean, yeah? There are a lot of specialized use cases out there CLAM DOWN fucked around with this message at 05:58 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Thanatosian posted:I am legitimately more comfortable giving out my SSN than my personal cell phone number. You'll need to explain this one to me. Genuinely asking too.
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LTSB is for poo poo like air traffic control and nuclear reactors and poo poo that DOES NOT CHANGE. If you're doing anything that requires the latest and greatest hardware then by definition you're not doing something that should be LTSB. Get current stay current.
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FISHMANPET posted:LTSB is for poo poo like air traffic control and nuclear reactors and poo poo that DOES NOT CHANGE. If you're doing anything that requires the latest and greatest hardware then by definition you're not doing something that should be LTSB. So why not embedded/IoT at that point?
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Workstations that air traffic controllers and nuclear engineers use to interface with those systems, not, like, the hardware actually running them.
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The Iron Rose posted:You'll need to explain this one to me. Genuinely asking too. With an SSN you can ruin my credit. With my cell phone number, you can literally take over my entire life thanks to it being used to validate identity online these days.
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FISHMANPET posted:Workstations that air traffic controllers and nuclear engineers use to interface with those systems, not, like, the hardware actually running them. Yeah a lot of aerospace/space stuff uses LTSB.
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Opportunity finally died because it had forced updates start to download even tho they specifically clicked "do not ask me again about this update," having killed it's battery do you know how expensive data is to Mars? cripes...
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The Iron Rose posted:You'll need to explain this one to me. Genuinely asking too. So, for someone wanting to steal your identity, the social security number is probably more useful. The semi-sardonic answer is "because it's a lot easier to change your social security number" (which is probably true). But for someone who just wants to build out a profile of you--your Facebooks and your Googles--the cell phone number is really the gold mine. Sure, your social security number is attached to your credit card, but only through your financial institution. However, most of the time when you buy something, the merchant will use your phone number as an identity-verification factor (since it's one of the things they can use with the card processors to confirm identity). You probably also have that same number used in your Facebook account (a place you almost certainly don't have your social security number), or you have Facebook Messenger downloaded onto your phone, or you have Twitter. Trying to work from name can be a bitch, because names aren't unique, but cell phone numbers are, and using that number and data purchased from merchants and card processors, you can tie your shopping to your Facebook or Twitter account. You probably also use your cell phone number as your contact number with your ISP. So, now, these companies can tie that to your web-browsing, which is legal for the ISPs to sell to them in the US since the Republicans did their work while they had a majority in both houses of Congress. Right now, a lot of this is hard to pick through and individualize, just because there's so much of it, but as AIs get better and better, I think it's going to become more and more of a problem. Of course, I don't think cell phone numbers are the only way they can tie all this data to you, but it certainly makes it a whole hell of a lot easier. This is probably just paranoid ranting from an old man, though.
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CaptainGimpy posted:I had no idea what Windows LTSB was, so I started reading on it. Why in the world would anyone deploy this unless you were somewhere that had high security requirements or hated your users? I work for a financial institution (or "FI," for short). Since connecting to the cloud presents significant regulatory complications for us, and most of our systems went through major upgrades in the last few years, we didn't use the cloud (we use it for more things now, but definitely host a ton more stuff on-prem than probably most other businesses do). We run Windows 10 LTSB builds as our primary workstation images. In answer to those concerns: quote:Q: Will the devices have Microsoft Office installed? I have noticed no significant issues running Office on the LTSB over a standard Home or Pro edition of Windows. We run Word, Excel, Outlook (that we use with an on-prem Exchange server), Access (including ODBC connections), and PowerPoint all the goddamn time. We were running into hiccups with Outlook for awhile, but getting an archiver and getting rid of PSTs has solved most of those (it was, IMO, simply the standard issues you get running PSTs over networked storage; I just didn't want to ignore it in favor of full disclosure). We run a ten-year-old version of Monarch on a handful of our computers with no more issues than you'd have on any other Windows machine. We have no more issue using our industry-specific software than we would on normal Windows, as far as I can tell (some of our software is lovely, and the problems we run into have been pretty typical from other FIs I talk to at conferences). quote:Q: Will the devices need to run Windows Store apps? quote:Q: Will the devices be used to browse the internet? quote:Q: Is the device your users’ primary computing device? It's Windows without the bullshit. This is the edition they really, really should have released as the Enterprise Edition, or some sort of business "I don't want your loving Candy Crush" edition. It wouldn't surprise me if they had originally intended that, but then realized they wouldn't be able to push "Windows as a service" nearly as hard with an edition out there that didn't force Cortana and the Windows Store on everyone. The reason they say "oh, Office won't work on it, and it won't navigate the internet, and most software won't work on it," is because they don't want you cutting that Microsoft Store cord. The other major issue we ran into with the LTSB is that the 2015 LTSB build did not play nice with Surfaces (either Books or Pros), but the 2016 edition does just fine. And I just realized that if I go work anywhere else, they'll probably be using Enterprise Edition or Pro, and goddammit, gently caress that. Guess I'm sticking around here for awhile longer (I like my job, it's fine). I also recognize that my experience is limited to my particular environment, so it's very possible that other places have very different experiences, but the doom and gloom Microsoft is spouting here is really just marketing scaremongering. Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Mar 9, 2019 |
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Don’t run LTSB like this. It’s not what it was created for. It’s like those people enabling the embedded edition updates for XP after support ended to keep using it instead of 7 Adapt or die. It’s much easier to block unwanted egress at the firewall than to roll out hundreds of desktops running a not really supported OS.
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