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syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Furthermore Christian scientists have postulated that our sun will eventually burn out, much unlike the love of God who reigns eternally. But heaven's sun is seven times closer for extra life reflected back at you from golden gutters and amethyst alleys and beryl boulevards and chalcedony corridors an

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Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

chitoryu12 posted:

I was reading about King Tut's throne (specifically while researching Ancient Egyptian furniture, because I'm weird) and came upon this source. I found one passage slightly odd...


Surprise, it was a Biblical archaeology site the entire time!

Man that was cool and then I was like, wait what is happening and then I was like aahhhhh got it :)

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

syscall girl posted:

Furthermore Christian scientists have postulated that our sun will eventually burn out, much unlike the love of God who reigns eternally. But heaven's sun is seven times closer for extra life reflected back at you from golden gutters and amethyst alleys and beryl boulevards and chalcedony corridors an

...and diamond dual-carriageways and emerald exits and...

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

What you're saying is that Heaven is Dwarf Fortress.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

chitoryu12 posted:

What you're saying is that Heaven is Dwarf Fortress.

Lucifer started the first tantrum spiral

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Alhazred posted:

In 1627 he raided the icelandic city Grindavík. In 1635 he was captured by the knights of Malta, he escaped in 1640. M

Grindavík isn't even a city today with its 3000 or so inhabitants. Back then it was a village at best. Iceland didn't really have anything even resembling a city until the 1930s and even villages were rare until the late 19th century. Iceland didn't even have horse drawn carriages until the early 1900s around the same time the industrial revolution arrived and roads began to be introduced.

Also their attack on Heimaey is generally seen as the headliner for their raids in Iceland and is the one people still remember and the reason Turks were illegal in Iceland for centuries afterwards*.


*Allegedly

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

FreudianSlippers posted:

Grindavík isn't even a city today with its 3000 or so inhabitants. Back then it was a village at best. Iceland didn't really have anything even resembling a city until the 1930s and even villages were rare until the late 19th century. Iceland didn't even have horse drawn carriages until the early 1900s around the same time the industrial revolution arrived and roads began to be introduced.

Also their attack on Heimaey is generally seen as the headliner for their raids in Iceland and is the one people still remember and the reason Turks were illegal in Iceland for centuries afterwards*.


*Allegedly

They had Icelandic horses, which are naturally gaited and thus smooth-riding. Other European countries dumped their gaited horses in their American colonies as carriages came into fashion. The descendants of these horses are still bred today, like Peruvian Pasos, Missouri Foxtrotters, and Tennessee Walkers. Unlike regular horses that will bounce the teeth out of your head, gaited horses have a smooth, even gait that can be comfortably ridden all day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_horse

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

chitoryu12 posted:

Surprise, it was a Biblical archaeology site the entire time!
P.S. While I was writing this, all the noses on their statues mysteriously fell off at the same time. Darn.

Edit: Is this the place to talk about how a couple years ago, two Germans claimed to have covertly scanned the Bust of Nefertiti, but it's much more likely that they actually hacked the museum servers and stole their own private scans? Considering that hacking and data theft is a significantly more serious crime than sneaking a Kinect into a museum...

Edit2: The funniest part about this is that if the Museum even addressed the issue directly (including the possibility that their proprietary data is now in the public domain) they'd Streisand Effect themselves into the ground.

girl dick energy has a new favorite as of 17:28 on Feb 21, 2019

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Catherine the Great employed professional foot ticklers.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Alhazred posted:

Catherine the Great employed professional foot ticklers.

Isn't pretty much anything about Catherine the Great to be taken with a mountain of salt?

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't pretty much anything about Catherine the Great to be taken with a mountain of salt?

Yep. People will say things about a woman hosed to death by a horse.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't pretty much anything about Catherine the Great to be taken with a mountain of salt?

Foot tickling was actually common among russian royalty, Anna of Russia also employed foot ticklers.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Ghost Leviathan posted:

Isn't pretty much anything about Catherine the Great to be taken with a mountain of salt?

She hosed a mountain of salt too?!?!

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
She was a powerful woman with a lot of enemies, of course apocryphal tales about the crazy poo poo she did got repeated ad nauseum until they got accepted as truthiness.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

PMush Perfect posted:

She was a powerful woman with a lot of enemies, of course apocryphal tales about the crazy poo poo she did got repeated ad nauseum until they got accepted as truthiness.

actually all women are succubi

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Solice Kirsk posted:

She hosed a mountain of salt too?!?!

Man, Edith gets around

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

Khazar-khum posted:

They had Icelandic horses, which are naturally gaited and thus smooth-riding. Other European countries dumped their gaited horses in their American colonies as carriages came into fashion. The descendants of these horses are still bred today, like Peruvian Pasos, Missouri Foxtrotters, and Tennessee Walkers. Unlike regular horses that will bounce the teeth out of your head, gaited horses have a smooth, even gait that can be comfortably ridden all day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_horse

One thing to keep in mind about Iceland is that before the mid 20th century is that the entire country was rural and, by law, almost everyone was either a farmer or farmhand. It was illegal to not own or rent land for farming if you weren't a priest or a merchant (the latter were almost always Danes as part of colonialism) or a farmhand working for someone that owned or rented land. The aim was to keep the lower class from forming fishing villages around the ocean which would mean people would flock there instead of the poor and young working as farmhands(basically serfs) until they got old enough to became poor peasants renting land from the upper class of the big land owning farmers. It was also illegal to get married if you weren't a farmer and having kids out of wedlock was megaillegal.

The Danes actually made several attempts at modernising the country in the 18th and 19th centuries but they were always opposed by the Icelandic upper class which didn't want to give up an ounce of their power.

Red Bones
Aug 9, 2012

"I think he's a bad enough person to stay ghost through his sheer love of child-killing."

I have a friend from Iceland and he told me that after the American military base closed there, the people living in the nearby town stole all the white goods from the place and then immediately returned them when they found out they were wired for US plugs and not European ones.

He also told me that there is a saying that goes: if you are lost in a forest in Iceland, then stand up. Because Iceland is too far north to have any trees larger than a bush.

What I am saying is that Iceland sounds like an interesting and magical place.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013
IIRC during WW2 a good portion of Icelanders wanted to go over to the Nazis because of all the British/American servicemen who were STEALING ARE WOMEN!!! and they sent a large number of Reykjavik's young women out to camps in the hinterland to keep them away from the dangerous foreigners.

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Red Bones posted:

He also told me that there is a saying that goes: if you are lost in a forest in Iceland, then stand up. Because Iceland is too far north to have any trees larger than a bush.

Iceland was largely covered with forests when the first settlers came. It was the subsequent generations of settlers that almost completely deforested the island and whose farming/animal husbandry practices destroyed the thin layer of top soil that had been built up and protected by the now cut down forests.

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


Red Bones posted:

What I am saying is that Iceland sounds like an interesting and magical place.

You are not wrong my friend, meet the huldufólk

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
That said, Catherine the Great apparently did have a room full of furniture carved with dicks and boobs, and they have the actual furniture to prove it.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That said, Catherine the Great apparently did have a room full of furniture carved with dicks and boobs, and they have the actual furniture to prove it.

The Nazis destroyed a large portion of it, because of course they did.

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That said, Catherine the Great apparently did have a room full of furniture carved with dicks and boobs, and they have the actual furniture to prove it.

A lot of those rumours started because Catherine hosed, loved to gently caress, and did not appologize to loving.

Seeing as how this should be for men, they added onto it.

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

Platystemon posted:

The Nazis destroyed a large portion of it, because of course they did.

I swear, the more I hear about these guys...

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



bony tony posted:

I swear, the more I hear about these guys...

They’re starting to sound like some real bad eggs.

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

Ghost Leviathan posted:

That said, Catherine the Great apparently did have a room full of furniture carved with dicks and boobs, and they have the actual furniture to prove it.

If memory serves a lot of it is in the Hermitage just kind of, you know, there. That in particular is the second biggest art collection in the world. I think it used to be the biggest and it's basically Catherine's doing. During her rule Russia went from being seen as backwards and not with the times to being modern for the time.

Tashilicious posted:

A lot of those rumours started because Catherine hosed, loved to gently caress, and did not appologize to loving.

Seeing as how this should be for men, they added onto it.

It also doesn't help that she was a pretty competent ruler that actually made life better in Russia for basically everybody. I think a lot of that was a smear campaign; instead of talking about the Hermitage or all the good poo poo she did it's "wait didn't she get hosed to death by a horse?" Of course how she came into power was a total dick move but royalty just kind of did that sort of thing in those days.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
It's very similar to all the negative portrayals of someone like Wu Zetian in China. Sure, she usurped the throne and she was ruthless towards anyone opposing her. She had to have been to get where she was and not be assassinated almost immediately.

Hell hath no fury like mysogynistic underlings scorned by a powerful woman.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Tashilicious posted:

A lot of those rumours started because Catherine hosed, loved to gently caress, and did not appologize to loving.

Seeing as how this should be for men, they added onto it.

And in all seriousness, Catherine was known as a serial monogamist. She had a long string of lovers and treated them well with favors at court, but when she tired of one - which was rather frequent - she sent him on his way with no hard feelings. Catching her eye was known at the time to be a terrific career opportunity, and she was never known to be vindictive or spiteful about it.

Ataxerxes
Dec 2, 2011

What is a soldier but a miserable pile of eaten cats and strange language?
Finland had, for 24 years, a Member of Parliament named Certain Revenge (or Certain Vengeance) Turunen (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varma_K._Turunen). A shame he wasn't a judge, with that name.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Ataxerxes posted:

Finland had, for 24 years, a Member of Parliament named Certain Revenge (or Certain Vengeance) Turunen (https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varma_K._Turunen). A shame he wasn't a judge, with that name.

15 years in the back benches, he's like no MP they'd ever seen.

Edit for actual content, somebody in the OSHA thread linked to this fascinating article about how French nuclear scientists got concerned that somebody might be skimming uranium to make nuclear bombs, but it turned out to be a 2 billion year old fission reactor:

Grundulum posted:

As promised, some words on Oklo, courtesy of the work of Alex Meshik (Washington University, St Louis). This is some truly awesome work, being able to tell so much about the conditions in Oklo two billion years ago.

First, an article he wrote for Scientific American for lay audiences:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-nuclear-reactor/

quote:

The Workings of an Ancient Nuclear Reactor
Two billion years ago parts of an African uranium deposit spontaneously underwent nuclear fission. The details of this remarkable phenomenon are just now becoming clear

In May 1972 a worker at a nuclear fuel–processing plant in France noticed something suspicious. He had been conducting a routine analysis of uranium derived from a seemingly ordinary source of ore. As is the case with all natural uranium, the material under study contained three isotopes— that is to say, three forms with differing atomic masses: uranium 238, the most abundant variety; uranium 234, the rarest; and uranium 235, the isotope that is coveted because it can sustain a nuclear chain reaction. Elsewhere in the earth’s crust, on the moon and even in meteorites, uranium 235 atoms make up 0.720 percent of the total. But in these samples, which came from the Oklo deposit in Gabon (a former French colony in west equatorial Africa), uranium 235 constituted just 0.717 percent. That tiny discrepancy was enough to alert French scientists that something strange had happened. Further analyses showed that ore from at least one part of the mine was far short on uranium 235: some 200 kilograms appeared to be missing— enough to make half a dozen or so nuclear bombs.

For weeks, specialists at the French Atomic Energy Commission (CEA) remained perplexed. The answer came only when someone recalled a prediction published 19 years earlier. In 1953 George W. Wetherill of the University of California at Los Angeles and Mark G. Inghram of the University of Chicago pointed out that some uranium deposits might have once operated as natural versions of the nuclear fission reactors that were then becoming popular. Shortly thereafter, Paul K. Kuroda, a chemist from the University of Arkansas, calculated what it would take for a uranium ore body spontaneously to undergo self-sustained fission. In this process, a stray neutron causes a uranium 235 nucleus to split, which gives off more neutrons, causing others of these atoms to break apart in a nuclear chain reaction.

Kuroda’s first condition was that the size of the uranium deposit should exceed the average length that fission-inducing neutrons travel, about two thirds of a meter. This requirement helps to ensure that the neutrons given off by one fissioning nucleus are absorbed by another before escaping from the uranium vein.

A second prerequisite is that uranium 235 must be present in sufficient abundance. Today even the most massive and concentrated uranium deposit cannot become a nuclear reactor, because the uranium 235 concentration, at less than 1 percent, is just too low. But this isotope is radioactive and decays about six times faster than does uranium 238, which indicates that the fissile fraction was much higher in the distant past. For example, two billion years ago (about when the Oklo deposit formed) uranium 235 must have constituted approximately 3 percent, which is roughly the level provided artificially in the enriched uranium used to fuel most nuclear power stations.

The third important ingredient is a neutron “moderator,” a substance that can slow the neutrons given off when a uranium nucleus splits so that they are more apt to induce other uranium nuclei to break apart. Finally, there should be no significant amounts of boron, lithium or other so-called poisons, which absorb neutrons and would thus bring any nuclear reaction to a swift halt.

Amazingly, the actual conditions that prevailed two billion years ago in what researchers eventually determined to be 16 separate areas within the Oklo and adjacent Okelobondo uranium mines were very close to what Kuroda outlined. These zones were all identified decades ago. But only recently did my colleagues and I finally clarify major details of what exactly went on inside one of those ancient reactors.

And, if you want more information on the gritty details, here is the paper on which the above article was based:
http://presolar.wustl.edu/Laboratory_for_Space_Sciences/Publications_2004_files/Meshik-PRL-04.pdf

C.M. Kruger has a new favorite as of 07:03 on Mar 8, 2019

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I remember reading about that, and a fun article extrapolating from it suggesting that naturally formed nuclear reactors could be the origin of Godzilla and similar Kaiju. (and that might actually be more or less canon with the new Godzilla movies explicitly having Godzilla and other Kaiju from their era be nuclear-powered creatures)

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I remember reading about that, and a fun article extrapolating from it suggesting that naturally formed nuclear reactors could be the origin of Godzilla and similar Kaiju. (and that might actually be more or less canon with the new Godzilla movies explicitly having Godzilla and other Kaiju from their era be nuclear-powered creatures)

Sounds dumb.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
There's nothing dumb about Godzilla, friend.

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.
but Godzilla's supposed to be an allegory for humans loving poo poo up by inventing and throwing around atom bombs. doesn't going "actually it was NATURAL atomic poo poo" absolve humanity and gently caress with the message?

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

InediblePenguin posted:

but Godzilla's supposed to be an allegory for humans loving poo poo up by inventing and throwing around atom bombs. doesn't going "actually it was NATURAL atomic poo poo" absolve humanity and gently caress with the message?

Godzilla contains multitudes.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

InediblePenguin posted:

but Godzilla's supposed to be an allegory for humans loving poo poo up by inventing and throwing around atom bombs. doesn't going "actually it was NATURAL atomic poo poo" absolve humanity and gently caress with the message?

Look buddy, WW2 was a long time ago. We need to make gigantic city destroying electric fire breathing mutant reptiles interesting again.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Solice Kirsk posted:

Look buddy, WW2 was a long time ago. We need to make gigantic city destroying electric fire breathing mutant reptiles interesting again.

Also, the modern American Godzilla is an allegory for climate change. We woke him and the other kaiju up unintentionally with our advancing science and industry (Godzilla specifically was woken up by the voyage of the USS Nautilus, the world's first nuclear powered submarine, when it was in the Pacific), and they're scarcely aware we exist at all. They're primordial forces of nature we can barely hope to comprehend, much less control, and are utterly heedless of the destruction they leave in their wake.

Japanese Godzilla actively sought out and killed the humans shooting at him. Modern American Godzilla doesn't give a gently caress and will merrily walk straight on past all the helicopters and tanks and jets shooting at him because why would he care about such tiny little things that can't hurt him?

InediblePenguin
Sep 27, 2004

I'm strong. And a giant penguin. Please don't eat me. No, really. Don't try.

Cythereal posted:

Also, the modern American Godzilla is an allegory for climate change. We woke him and the other kaiju up unintentionally with our advancing science and industry (Godzilla specifically was woken up by the voyage of the USS Nautilus, the world's first nuclear powered submarine, when it was in the Pacific), and they're scarcely aware we exist at all. They're primordial forces of nature we can barely hope to comprehend, much less control, and are utterly heedless of the destruction they leave in their wake.

Japanese Godzilla actively sought out and killed the humans shooting at him. Modern American Godzilla doesn't give a gently caress and will merrily walk straight on past all the helicopters and tanks and jets shooting at him because why would he care about such tiny little things that can't hurt him?
when Godzilla is climate change it's even WORSE to go "ah yes but, like, not MAN-MADE"

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Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
i always thought godzilla was just some little lizard that fell into a nuclear reactor and got magicked big

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