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Arcsquad12 posted:I just want another game where the NPCs don't default to hostile the minute they make eye contact with you. I liked that in New Vegas. Sure you have Vipers and Jackals and Fiends and the occasional paranoid Brotherhood patrol but for the most part people will at least try to talk first before the guns come out. Even wannabes like the powder gangers are more interested in shaking down travelers than murdering them. THat would require effort
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Didn't coyotes and stuff growl in New Vegas and only attack if you got close?
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Mar 15, 2019 21:02
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While everyone is talking about shutting down 8chan because it breeds psychopaths I'm gonna go ahead and say shut down nma too
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Mar 15, 2019 21:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:I just want another game where the NPCs don't default to hostile the minute they make eye contact with you. I liked that in New Vegas. Sure you have Vipers and Jackals and Fiends and the occasional paranoid Brotherhood patrol but for the most part people will at least try to talk first before the guns come out. Even wannabes like the powder gangers are more interested in shaking down travelers than murdering them. This really is my biggest beef with F4. Story issues are one thing, because I can turn my brain off and enjoy popcorn sci fi shlock for what it is. But the fact that every single loving quest is "go here, kill that, come back" drives me up the wall. I want to get to know cool post-apoc peoples and histories and such. Hell, Fallout 3 even allowed you to complete quests in multiple ways and different orders, lots without violence even. That's the very core of what made Fallout so enjoyable for most folks. The setting was great, but it was being able to any kind of character for the most part and make it work. And apparently F76 is even more of that but with even less interactivity. I don't know because I have yet to touch it.
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Mar 15, 2019 21:56
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Donovan Trip posted:While everyone is talking about shutting down 8chan because it breeds psychopaths I'm gonna go ahead and say shut down nma too NMA has been in a vegetative state for years.
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Mar 15, 2019 22:14
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Let's not throw stones in a glass house, there
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Mar 15, 2019 22:24
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So is this game still a trash fire? Been playing Conan Exiles and something like that with a Fallout skin could be cool.
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Mar 15, 2019 22:30
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Another Bill posted:Jesus Christ how is this loving game not $20 yet I got it for $25 on Amazon.
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Mar 15, 2019 23:37
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Meridian posted:So is this game still a trash fire? Been playing Conan Exiles and something like that with a Fallout skin could be cool. Is Exiles good (or something approaching good) now? I randomly redownload it once in a while but I haven't in like 9 months.
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sharknado slashfic posted:Is Exiles good (or something approaching good) now? I randomly redownload it once in a while but I haven't in like 9 months. I just started playing it but apparently a lot has changed, combat has been improved and I am sure some other things too. If you want to check it out, I would be down to play co-op.
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chaosapiant posted:This really is my biggest beef with F4. Story issues are one thing, because I can turn my brain off and enjoy popcorn sci fi shlock for what it is. But the fact that every single loving quest is "go here, kill that, come back" drives me up the wall. I want to get to know cool post-apoc peoples and histories and such. Hell, Fallout 3 even allowed you to complete quests in multiple ways and different orders, lots without violence even. That's the very core of what made Fallout so enjoyable for most folks. The setting was great, but it was being able to any kind of character for the most part and make it work. And apparently F76 is even more of that but with even less interactivity. I don't know because I have yet to touch it. Every time I try fallout 4 again I mentally check out around the time I run into the raider giving a eulogy for a friend who then just sees you and starts shooting and barking canned lines
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Mar 16, 2019 19:02
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Deadguy2322 posted:It almost makes one wonder why they bothered buying the IP in the first place. Because it meant they didn't have to bother coming up with a new IP, because that would be hard.
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Frog Act posted:Every time I try fallout 4 again I mentally check out around the time I run into the raider giving a eulogy for a friend who then just sees you and starts shooting and barking canned lines Is that the one standing over the shallow grave? I always just pop him in the head so he falls forward on his buddy and loot them both.
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Mar 16, 2019 19:06
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Frog Act posted:Every time I try fallout 4 again I mentally check out around the time I run into the raider giving a eulogy for a friend who then just sees you and starts shooting and barking canned lines The best example of this is the robot race track where once you're spotted everyone tries to murder you for no reason
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Mar 16, 2019 19:57
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It's kind of nice to give raiders little scenes like that, or like the ones in Fallout 3 that play baseball or whatever, but yeah the effect is kind of spoiled when the combat AI takes over instantly upon detecting the player
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Mar 16, 2019 20:36
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corn in the bible posted:The best example of this is the robot race track where once you're spotted everyone tries to murder you for no reason I know right? I wanted to place some bets OH poo poo EVERYONES SHOOTING
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Mar 16, 2019 20:46
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The rumor was that they were going to flesh the raiders out a lot more in FO4 but that all got shelved in order to add in half a base-building game. *I actually kind of liked the base building but it is as obviously just as incomplete as the factions
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Mar 16, 2019 21:02
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Clark Nova posted:The rumor was that they were going to flesh the raiders out a lot more in FO4 but that all got shelved in order to add in half a base-building game. Most of it is in the various Raider terminals that nobody's going to read, and there's sometimes dialogue where they talk about other raiders getting slaughtered Of course, it's kinda hard to hear any of it when you're half a mile away with a sniper rifle...
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Mar 16, 2019 21:11
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Also the cage fighting arena where everyone immediately turns hostile
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Mar 16, 2019 21:12
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So instead of improving AI on raiders we get more stupid creation club clubhouses.
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Mar 16, 2019 21:12
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Vinylshadow posted:Most of it is in the various Raider terminals that nobody's going to read, and there's sometimes dialogue where they talk about other raiders getting slaughtered There's this remarkable elaborate system of changing logs at around four or five locations, that change depending on which raider gang you've brutally murdered, it's kinda fun. Of course, I would have been much nicer if they'd talked about it instead or there had been some sort of gameplay anything. [This is all Fallout 4, one of the locations is the Corvega plant.]
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Mar 16, 2019 21:41
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BMan posted:Also the cage fighting arena where everyone immediately turns hostile That one always bothers me, I love the arena concept and Bethesda just keeps teasing it
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Shooting Blanks posted:Because it meant they didn't have to bother coming up with a new IP, because that would be hard. Starfield Tech-Raider *in Nazeem voice*: This is the part where you fall down and bleed oil to death!"
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Mar 16, 2019 22:17
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I mean I sort of dig the dumb base building, but I’d prefer more quest and NPC interactivity across the bored. I think Elder Scrolls would be the better franchise to have the player dick around in because by default no one cares about the story. But Fallout is a setting that was famous for telling good stories and having a degree of moral complexity.
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Mar 16, 2019 22:42
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Gonna get owned hard for sayin this but new patch is not that bad and of of the bugs seem gone Mostly been ignoring the quests collecting junk and playing Barbie Dream Home though 
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Mar 16, 2019 23:38
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I take it they already fixed the borked spoilage timer from the patch?
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Mar 16, 2019 23:54
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Rinkles posted:I take it they already fixed the borked spoilage timer from the patch? Spoilage seems messed up. I was collecting stuff for booze, only played for about 2 hours and ended up with over 100 spoiled vegetables in my inventory by the time I went back to camp. Unless they're intending to make everything spoil instantly.
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Meridian posted:I just started playing it but apparently a lot has changed, combat has been improved and I am sure some other things too. If you want to check it out, I would be down to play co-op. I'll keep this in mind but as is evident from me forgetting I ever posted this I'll also forget to download it again.
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TheSwizzler posted:Unless they're intending to make everything spoil instantly. Judging from this games shelf life they may be
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When I first bought FO4, I was pretty happy with it. Then I realised I was only enjoying it because it was a post-apocalyptic base builder. And it couldn't even do it properly. I ended up getting a load of mods so I could actually build the base I wanted to without the attached Bethesda logic. I stopped playing soon after.
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Fall Dog posted:When I first bought FO4, I was pretty happy with it. Then I realised I was only enjoying it because it was a post-apocalyptic base builder. And it couldn't even do it properly. I ended up getting a load of mods so I could actually build the base I wanted to without the attached Bethesda logic. I had the opposite reaction. I wanted a Fallout game but it kept trying to sell me on this dumbshit base builder (I already have Rimworld, Banished, and other better games for that). I considered bitching at Steam for a refund but... 
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Donovan Trip posted:Valve tried to take a producer role for a while, they're not very good at it. They were simultaneously trying to get steam off the ground. Gearbox and turtlerock and a few others were all trying to make that condition zero game as well as ports with no direction, they couldn't even get an email back from valve. Eventually valve outright bought the studios they could, gearbox passed on that. iirc there was a noclip documentary that touched on this relationship a bit.
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i didn't know there was a character model replacement mod for fo2 beyond hair color and race options. i'm assuming that's what i'm seeing in matn's fo2 lp.  (from video vs. my copy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78L3zYpg1pM&t=3400s fo2 modding sure has evolved since i last... omg 
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Rinkles posted:i didn't know there was a character model replacement mod for fo2 beyond hair color and race options. i'm assuming that's what i'm seeing in matn's fo2 lp. That stuff is in the Fallout 2 Restoration Project.
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Paul Revere 3000 posted:That stuff is in the Fallout 2 Restoration Project. wasn't there a decade ago when i last looked into rp. seems killap expanded the scope quite a bit.
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Mar 18, 2019 13:21
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Rinkles posted:fo2 modding sure has evolved since i last... omg i hate little pip
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Mar 18, 2019 13:52
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There’s one for fo3 where they replace every character, too I hate mlp so loving much
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Mar 18, 2019 14:50
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Rinkles posted:fo2 modding sure has evolved since i last... omg This is amazing work. As a student of history I can say that I’ve seen hundreds of pictures like this, and have shown little to no emotion. The pictures were just windows to a past I’ve never lived in, people who I never knew or would ever know. But this picture made me stop and evaluate. Putting Rainbow Dash in made me actually look at what is really happening. Putting something that everyone is familiar with in a situation that no one knows, and to make people feel those emotions well, that takes amazing talent. Thank you.
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Lmao to this day I can't believe someone wrote that seriously
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