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you just gotta have enough onion-like layers of plastic to make whatever airlock you need
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Moridin920 posted:I like how funding is a concern when again apple by themselves just pissed $85 billion into the wind on buy backs People only get mad if you say you're going to spend money on space exploration. There are billions spent on oil and gas, things that are actively killing the planet and no one bats an eye. But if you want to use any of that money on space, people act like all of the money and effort is going into a space program and nothing else.
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May 23, 2019 06:02
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for real tho have you guys read neal stephenson's seveneves? he talks about what this russian plastic onion airlock thing would be like in space. its badass and also terrifying
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May 23, 2019 06:09
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like to speed deploy people in space, you wrap them in layers of pressurized plastic
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Linux Pirate posted:People only get mad if you say you're going to spend money on space exploration. There are billions spent on oil and gas, things that are actively killing the planet and no one bats an eye. But if you want to use any of that money on space, people act like all of the money and effort is going into a space program and nothing else. It's partially that they think it can't be spread out. It's mostly just that people have zero concept of what numbers mean, period. Tell them that in 10 years, we could have an operational loving moon base. It will cost them 80 billion dollars. They will panic and proclaim that will cause the absolute end of the world due to the economy collapsing due to this unimaginable, unfathomable sum of money. As soon as they pause for breath, tell them that in one year, THIS year, specifically, 2019, the Department of Defense already has a budget, for just this ONE YEAR, of 686 Billion dollars. That's 85 times as much as this ten year project will cost, in ONE YEAR. ONE. And they will hoot and clap and demand even more money be spent. The numbers are so large, and so incalculable to most people that they just cannot comprehend it and do not want to. Assuming the DoD budget doesn't go up (lol) this is what the 10 year spending plan looks like in billions of dollars. 
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May 23, 2019 06:13
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We will loving vaporize some aliens
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May 23, 2019 06:21
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Do the people designing the base remember that in Moon the enemy can just glue springs to their boots and jump over the wall? Seeing how America struggles with wall construction they're not gonna be able to build one high enough.
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May 23, 2019 07:16
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If everyone in your government can agree to give the military 700bn they can also agree to give 20% of that to NASA
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May 23, 2019 08:53
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Things seem pretty chill on the moon. You can't just pop your shirt off and kick back though.
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May 23, 2019 09:11
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Donald is desperate to have his name put on something but the next President is gonna cancel the poo poo out of this program.
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May 23, 2019 09:17
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numberoneposter posted:You know what NASA stands for don't you? Did not know this but makes sense, thank you
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FuturePastNow posted:Donald is desperate to have his name put on something but the next President is gonna cancel the poo poo out of this program. yeah it'll be a real shame when it all gets cancelled just after they finally get boots on the ground in 2024
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May 23, 2019 09:50
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NASA should just take over development of Star Citizen imo
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May 23, 2019 09:51
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:NASA should just take over development of Star Citizen imo Would probably be faster. For example, during the development period for Duke Nukem Forever, NASA proposed, authorized, announced, designed, launched and successfully landed the Mars Exploration Rovers Spirit and Opportunity, where they performed science for years before DNF actually came out. Also during DNF's development, the International Space Station was launched and assembled in orbit, with residents there for around a decade before the game's release. For a comparison to Star Citizen, the Curiosity rover's initial testing and design started in 2004, was largely completed by 2008 and underwent additional testing, and was launched in 2011, landing on Mars in 2012. So that's eight years from concept to success. Star Citizen's Kickstarter was in 2012, though development actually started in 2011. It's now 2019, eight years later, and its current state is "lol".
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May 23, 2019 10:50
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numberoneposter posted:You know what NASA stands for don't you? NASA is actually the Hebrew phrase "to deceive" The Illuminati have to put their real intentions in plain sight for their black magick to work Globeheads wake up!
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May 23, 2019 11:53
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goon base 1 come in goon base 1
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May 23, 2019 12:57
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reignofevil posted:No fuckin way we're getting back to the moon.
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space isis spaceis spices moon spices if trump can pull off a deal, he can get favorable trad conditions for the moon spice
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May 23, 2019 14:19
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Space exploration is wasteful and wanton destruction of resources. Leave those moon rocks alone dammit! Gotta contain humanity on one planet.
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May 23, 2019 14:20
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Jose posted:If everyone in your government can agree to give the military 700bn they can also agree to give 20% of that to NASA It's not even close to 20%. It's 8bn out of an annual budget of 686bn. It's %1.16 percent per year. If you made $50k last year, that's one payment of $580 a year. And that's just assuming ALL the funding come from the DoD and zero other gov't agencies or private backers AND that the DoD's budget isn't going to grow like crazy in the next ten years (it absolutely is). Literally this entire project would cost the DoD less than a rounding error by a matter of a couple of decimal points. That is how inconsequential this amount is. Big Beef City fucked around with this message at 14:26 on May 23, 2019 |
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May 23, 2019 14:22
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Big Beef City posted:It's not even close to 20%. Good give it to poor people instead of space nerds who want to play in an airless sandbox with no value to anyone
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May 23, 2019 15:29
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And the dod budget too Maybe get flint mi potable water would be a good first step but that doesn't serve humanity or at least the humans NASA dorks picture saving Investing in making earth inhabitable is both more logical and reaps better rewards but this isn't about logic or intelligence it's just sci fi masturbation
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May 23, 2019 15:35
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Big Beef City posted:
Yeah, but that 8bn is the "That's how much we need to get the sunk cost fallacy budget increases rolling" figure. That figure won't cover the office chairs and laptops. Building and maintaining a moon base is not gonna cost 10% of the lowball estimate for building a wall to protect the country from South American children.
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Good give it to poor people instead of space nerds who want to play in an airless sandbox with no value to anyone That's fine. I'm not fighting for it. I said earlier it was a boondoggle and not going to happen. I was just talking about the scope of this and its comparison to other things and why people flip the gently caress out over the numbers.
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May 23, 2019 15:56
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space is the place to send the enemies of the people
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Good give it to poor people instead of space nerds who want to play in an airless sandbox with no value to anyone "why are you nerds exploring the ocean when we've got problems here in europe?!" -you to christopher columbia
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May 23, 2019 16:21
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Ehud posted:"why are you nerds exploring the ocean when we've got problems here in europe?!" -you to christopher columbia christopher columbus now there’s a widely respected historical figure
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WatermelonGun posted:christopher columbus now there’s a widely respected historical figure he invented america what have you ever done
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May 23, 2019 16:26
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Give the poor money and also space jobs. If they don't want that I guess they can get guaranteed earth jobs
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May 23, 2019 16:29
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A couple weekends ago I was in Dublin, and there was this really hammered guy hanging out by himself in this nearly closed bar. My buddy asked him where he was from, and from his toothless mouth he yelled "THE MOON!!!" So I'm happy to say we're already on the moon. Stay strong and keep drinking, moon man...
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May 23, 2019 16:31
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Pffft, the moon? Lame. They need to get their rear end to mars
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May 23, 2019 16:33
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Kuato posted:Pffft, the moon? Lame. They need to get their rear end to mars the moon is used as a launchpad to get to mars did you even watch the video!
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May 23, 2019 16:37
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Kuato posted:Pffft, the moon? Lame. They need to get their rear end to mars I'd just like to say that I see what you're doing here Kuato and want you to know that someone appreciated it
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May 23, 2019 16:37
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Can't wait for the new religions that are going to spring up at MOONBASE ALPHA. Moon Jesus gonna slay some extra-terrestrials. In the name of the MOON LORD.
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May 23, 2019 16:43
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Space religions are always ultra fuckin hippie or turbo brutalistic. Very few in between
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May 23, 2019 16:50
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They went to moon and played golf. Golf. That's how much it sucks there.
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Noblesse Obliged posted:Good give it to poor people instead of space nerds who want to play in an airless sandbox with no value to anyone Yeah all the GOP senators came out and said "sure we'll cut MIL spending and give you $X billion, now you can either spend it on welfare programs or space gotta pick ONE."
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May 23, 2019 17:57
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Just make a polarized launching ramp and just loving hurdle Ford F150s into space
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None of this money will go anywhere but to grift and graft so even you space bazingas won't get what you want
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