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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The Russian government attempts to interfere in many parts of "Western" society via the internet for their own benefit because it's a cheap and easy way to damage countries they perceive as enemies, and support a network of paid personalities in countries to downplay any reports about such interference. His homebrewed TV station had a bunch of Press TV-connected personnel working with it, and he almost always goes light on/takes the side of the Iranian government, despite the fact that on the basis of his own theories they're just as much puppets of the Illuminati as any Western government (possibly more so), and he runs stories denouncing US aggression against Iran year-round even if nothing especially unusual is happening.
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Happy UFO day Cspammers! If you haven't seen it, I recommend Rod Serling's 1974/76/79 UFO documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJdUA8LQg0 It's nicely produced, and eerie in the way of all good Serling stuff. Also I think it was recently claimed that some of the Holloman AFB footage was from the "real" incident, as a (say it with me now!), limited hang-out.
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twistedmentat posted:Also I'm pretty sure all the people who claim that their cancer was cured never actually had cancer, but thought they did either after self diagnosis or having their auras read or something else BS. It's like Black Salve proponents claim that they had cancer eaten away by it when it was just a ingrown hair or cyst or something else that was otherwise easily treated without putting goo on your skin that will eat your face off. That and a lot of them are just good old fashioned liars.
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Moon's haunted: https://defence-blog.com/news/nasa-to-buy-lightweight-semi-automatic-rifles.html
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TrixRabbi posted:That and a lot of them are just good old fashioned liars. Oh yea, like all the "former" Satanists that were around in the 80s with the Satanic Panic. "When I was a Satanic Priest i would sacrifice and consume up to 20 babies a week. I also committed other sins such as drug use, sodomy and voting Democratic. But I have now found the love and grace of Jesus Christ and now i am saved, and for only one thousand dollars a week, I can come to your town and help your police department pin ODs and other deaths on young people who are into heavy metal and dungeons and dragons". But yea its super easy to just make a claim and as long as its fits with someones world view, they'll buy it. Sadly, lack of proper education, lack of mental health and the lovely state of healthcare, people making phony health claims appeal to a lot of people. Sadly, a lot of people who doctors are unable to treat are very suspecable to this stuff. Like that guy who had terminal cancer and thought Jilly Juice was going to cure him, and no, he just lived his last days horribly making GBS threads constantly. I find Flat Earth stuff really annoying and fustrating because its a bunch of very, very stupid people or religious fantatics that think if they can disprove one science thing, therefor science is wrong and the bible is real, but Flat Earth experiments are always hilarious. Like what the hell are they doing in them? LIke this one Sciman Dan presents https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGtVaSFmBlg The worst is a guy who's got a ball dumping water on it going "IF EARTH ROUND WHY WATER NO FALL OFF? FLAT EARTH!!!!"
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The Russian government attempts to interfere in many parts of "Western" society via the internet for their own benefit because it's a cheap and easy way to damage countries they perceive as enemies, and support a network of paid personalities in countries to downplay any reports about such interference. I don’t think the Russians watch CNN
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not exactly on the recent party line, oumuamua is now garbage https://www.hawaii.edu/news/2019/07/02/natural-origin-for-oumuamua/
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twistedmentat posted:Oh yea, like all the "former" Satanists that were around in the 80s with the Satanic Panic. Oh poo poo you wanna see the actual best one of these? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBkzcUKv7TM There's a while playlist of this and it's all incredible but listing off his credentials is one of the funniest things ever
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Oh hey turns out the chemtrail dudes were completely right but also completely wrong at the same time https://www.sciencealert.com/airplane-contrails-are-a-climate-change-factor-we-re-totally-ignoring-scientists-warn doing anything to regulate or limit air travel would be Illuminati communism so I guess they’re just going to have to learn to live with it though* *die in a boiling planet
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https://twitter.com/ellie_olb/status/1149516892677165056?s=21 about to do a deep dive into the Satanic Panic (I guess I skimmed it in high school but don’t recall too many details) and can’t wait for my brain to crack in half, any book/documentary/podcast recommendations on that subject?
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Jul 13, 2019 05:15
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I'm excited for this to happen and for them to finally free our alien brethren from the tyrranical chains of the US (run by reptilians)
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The Saucer Hovers posted:not exactly on the recent party line, oumuamua is now garbage it's not garbage, it's a very cool rock
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Dr. Killjoy posted:https://twitter.com/ellie_olb/status/1149516892677165056?s=21 20/20 did a special on Satan worship back in the 80's. Might be worth looking up.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:about to do a deep dive into the Satanic Panic (I guess I skimmed it in high school but don’t recall too many details) and can’t wait for my brain to crack in half, any book/documentary/podcast recommendations on that subject? For similar reasons you probably want to look up "Michelle Remembers", second hand copies of which should be trivial to get because it sold like crazy back in its day and now I suspect a great many people are embarrassed about owning it. It is vile - the author basically directly admits to a whole host of breaches of professional ethics over the course of it, largely of the "do not bang your patients" variety - but it's the book which kicked off the whole Satanic Ritual Abuse craze, so if you're going to be doing Satanic Panic research you'll want to cover it.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:
at the risk of sounding like a broken record i always have to recommend The Witch Hunt Narrative by Ross Chiet on this topic
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as far as documentaries go there is Witch Hunt and the first Paradise Lost film but those are less about the modern history of its origins and more about how it hosed up our justice system even further e: i also remembered liking the McMartin TV movie but i forgot you'd have to watch James Woods lol A Big Fuckin Hornet has issued a correction as of 16:30 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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pancake rabbit posted:finally watched that bob lazar documentary on netflix Yeah the bob lazar story is fun as hell the movie was too. I just started "Unidentified" on the history channel. It's been a deep dive into the december 2017 NYT nimitz tic-tac story so far and is also extremely my poo poo. I've been obsessed with new info on that story ever since I've read it and I actually learned a few new things and heard from a few new witnesses. It's cool.
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Dr. Killjoy posted:https://twitter.com/ellie_olb/status/1149516892677165056?s=21 Remembering Satan and literally anything about the McMartin case
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A really good watch to get a nice look at Satanic Panic is the Lifetime Original Movie that was made during the whole McMartin case where the teachers are portrayed as 100% guilty and the prosecutor's are shown as avenging heroes.
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OldTennisCourt posted:A really good watch to get a nice look at Satanic Panic is the Lifetime Original Movie that was made during the whole McMartin case where the teachers are portrayed as 100% guilty and the prosecutor's are shown as avenging heroes. Every lifetime movie is worth watching because they're all about how dad's are absolute dipshits and sometimes they go too far and the dad is clearly the only sane human
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The only Skeptical Podcast I still listen to is Monstertalk and they just had a good episode about the Bob Lazar doc. It's very interesting because he never really tries to capitalize on his fame. He's just some dorky guy who likes ot build rocket cars who claims to have worked on crashed UFOs. Satanic Panic is something that will be endlessly facinated by, and it really is Qanon's grandfather. though it was a much more widely accepted belief than Q. I think that its one of the major reasons Evangelicals gained a lot of power in the 80s. They used this to force themselves into positions of power than used that to their advantage because everyone was worried they'd get fingered, not like classic Witch Trials. Though again, my favorite people from it are the experts, especially the "former" satanists that just confirm every crazy belief these people have. You can find tons of videos on youtube, but my favorite is Deception of a Generation which claims all the toys are cartoons of the 80s are Satanic because there's magic and levitation going on.
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Every lifetime movie is worth watching because they're all about how dad's are absolute dipshits and sometimes they go too far and the dad is clearly the only sane human The Lifetime movie about the dude addicted to internet porn is unironically one of my favorite movies of all time. The high point being the mom cleaning his room and finding a blank DVD with VIRGIN VAGINAS sharpied on it it huge letters.
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When I get home I'll poke around, I used to have a bunch of satanic panic poo poo that I streamed for folks, I might be able to find where I downloaded it and share some titles I know I watched a bunch of Bob Larson videos at one point
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OldTennisCourt posted:The Lifetime movie about the dude addicted to internet porn is unironically one of my favorite movies of all time. The high point being the mom cleaning his room and finding a blank DVD with VIRGIN VAGINAS sharpied on it it huge letters. That's the one I was thinking of, the movie is trying so hard to make the mom look like the only one who cares and her husband is dumb but the dad is clearly the only one who isn't a crazy person and just wants the kid to keep the mom happy so she'll shut up It's called Cyber Seduction: His Secret Life btw
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The Russian government attempts to interfere in many parts of "Western" society via the internet for their own benefit because it's a cheap and easy way to damage countries they perceive as enemies, and support a network of paid personalities in countries to downplay any reports about such interference. the internet itself is american agitprop
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:That's the one I was thinking of, the movie is trying so hard to make the mom look like the only one who cares and her husband is dumb but the dad is clearly the only one who isn't a crazy person and just wants the kid to keep the mom happy so she'll shut up oh man I think I have this in my collection but I've never actually watched it
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TrixRabbi posted:oh man I think I have this in my collection but I've never actually watched it
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Warthur posted:Notable for how they go out of the way to not actually depict the porn he's watching (obviously, because that'd make it hard for them to show it on lifetime) except for this one screenshot of a latex fetish website, because of course when the fetish is for people 100% covered in skintight rubber there's technically no nudity, but it still looks pretty tame aside from the costumes and you're left thinking "Jeez, mom, what are you afraid of? That your son and his future partners will end up smelling faintly of car tyres and talcum powder after a romantic evening?" I'm worried this is gonna take over the thread but gently caress it. He's also introduced to porn because he went to a party and apparently in 2005 it was a thing where you surfed porn sites with a huge group of people in your basement while you commented how gross it was.
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TrixRabbi posted:oh man I think I have this in my collection but I've never actually watched it If you don't, let me know, I think I have it. It's great. There's an incredible scene where the mom wakes the dad up to say the kid is looking at porn and the dad has the appropriate reaction: rolls over and goes back to sleep And clearly they're trying to make the mom look like the only one who cares but yeah the 15 year old is jacking off, who cares
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I did my thesis on the Satanic panic. Here's a play list of stuff I had for citations and presentations, but a lot of stuff keeps getting deleted: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxLMYB70S9DUM_LZ8eYaQFBsyOIbwQuxc This is the best one, and was the highest rated "documentary" in tv history. Geraldo spends 2 hours interviewing people claiming to be Satanists, and has on a former FBI agent that claims there's a vast network of them operating in the shadows, he also claims a little girl's drawing of her Rainbow Brite oc is actually a drawing of the robes she wore when they made her murder babies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKT4O0KCN1c This is the 20/20 special mentioned earlier, in one shot you can see junk food packaging when they're interviewing kids, bribing kids to get them to say what the "therapist" wanted was common: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UQuwxBgpAg This is another one that focuses on the real victims of the panic: in this case a family that ran a babysitting service and while the dad probably shouldn't have been around kids, he definitely wasn't raping them crucifixes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T6D-80U3FY The case also made Janet Reno's career: https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/...er-what-6364629 And here's a comedy special from the guy who kick started the whole thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr9nkCZkhFA Mike Warnke basically invented the "former Satanic high priest" subgenre of Evangelical scammers, and his book The Satan Seller was the first one to claim that there was a vast network of Satanists that secretly controlled the world. The book is hysterical and used copies are cheap. Somehow he was running the California chapter of the Church of Satan and supplying drugs to all of California while holding down a job at a burger joint and hanging out at the local college all day recruiting newbies. Oh, and Satanists are furious if you wake them up at 3am. This channel has a bunch of documentaries from the era: (Edit, looks like the forum software wants to turn it into a video link, just type "Occult Demon Cassette" into youtube). If you watch various talkshows from the era, you'll run into Zena LeVey and Michael Aquino a lot. This is an interview from a few years ago where Zena talks about growing up in the real Church of Satan and how she regrets defending them because by the 80s the edgy teens had moved on and all that was left was a bunch of manchildren, and by going on tv she accidentally revived it. Michael Aquino worked for the CIA so he pops up in a lot of conspiracies even today (and makes it hard to find good info about him). https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/yv53ex/beelzebubs-daughter-0000175-v19n4 Best Korea has issued a correction as of 21:01 on Jul 15, 2019 |
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Best Korea posted:I did my thesis on the Satanic panic. I remember reading a book when I was relatively young called "The Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry that attempted to link the Son of Sam murders to the Manson clan and a huge, underground satanic worship ring. The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson and Polanski were involved somehow. I don't remember all that much about it except that I was young enough to be impressionable but old enough to read an actual novel and for a while I actually bought that bullshit and thought I'd learned something. https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Evil-Maury-Terry/dp/0553276018 I grew up during all that Geraldo, D&D, heavy metal bullshit and thought it had gone away until I learned about the West Memphis Three murder case.
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I'm reading Paperbacks from Hell (awesome book btw) and it's really hard to overstate how loving HUGE the whole Satanic and Occult thing was in the realm of the mainstream. There were countless lovely paperback books on it.
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BiggerBoat posted:I remember reading a book when I was relatively young called "The Ultimate Evil" by Maury Terry that attempted to link the Son of Sam murders to the Manson clan and a huge, underground satanic worship ring. The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson and Polanski were involved somehow. I don't remember all that much about it except that I was young enough to be impressionable but old enough to read an actual novel and for a while I actually bought that bullshit and thought I'd learned something. In the Geraldo doc, he links Manson and Hitler to Satanism but doesn't elaborate. Not that it would be hard, a lot of edgelords who called themselves Satanists back then were really into Nazis and Manson. I grew up in the rural South and it pretty much never died there. I was banned from reading Harry Potter at school or brining Pokemon merch (or anime in general, Japan isn't Christian so it must be demonic). They tried to expel a friend of mine in 8th grade because she got really into witches and loaned some dumb teen novel to the wrong person. There's still people in jail over it because the prosecutors either played down the Satanic angle to get a conviction or their cases never got the publicity the West Memphis Three, or even Country Walk, did. OldTennisCourt posted:I'm reading Paperbacks from Hell (awesome book btw) and it's really hard to overstate how loving HUGE the whole Satanic and Occult thing was in the realm of the mainstream. There were countless lovely paperback books on it. Yeah, a lot of my time was spent trying to separate stuff the average person would have read vs stuff that only Evangelicals would have read, and then narrowing it down to stuff that was influential. I could have spent a fortune on old paperbacks. Best Korea has issued a correction as of 02:04 on Jul 16, 2019 |
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Yea there's very much a thought of "if it isn't explicitly about Jesus, its about Satan" that runs through a lot evangelicals.
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Huh. Ken Layne found a Us Navy patent for an unconventional triangle craft: https://twitter.com/KenLayne/status/1153849114859208704 https://patents.google.com/patent/US10144532B2/en
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