Star Citizen: $48,000 is only $334/month for 12 years

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MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

Makes sense, I've always thought they'd be quick to massage the numbers if they started to drop.

When the collapse does finally happen, it will happen fast. Their main supporters know they're funding the month-to-month expenses of the studio(s). They're fine with this, as long as they can continue to believe that they aren't wasting their money, that others are also shouldering the burden and keeping CIG afloat.

BUT the instant a ship sale under-performs, leading to the next ship sale being a disastrous flop- too many backer's faith would be shaken. If enough people say "well, I'll sit this sale out and see what happens", well it's like the end of a ponzi scheme. Less new money coming in means no money paid out means even less new money coming in...

This will mean nothing to the most culty die-hard supporters but there really aren't enough of them to fund this by themselves, they need the mid-level whales.

There are a lot of reasons for Chris and Sandi to have vanished from sight, them seeing the writing on the wall could be the big one.

What makes you think that CIG would not just fudge with the funding figure in their tracker? Pretty sure they have been doing it all along.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:22

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# ? Apr 26, 2024 12:03

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

#notacult

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:36

UnknownTarget: Sep 5, 2019

DarkDobe posted:

I'd play the poo poo out of a Freespace-alike or *dreams here* FS3. The ending of 2 is at once.the best and worst for that. Shivans!!!

The music from that sequence still gives me chills!

Iceclaw posted:

Rebel Galaxy Outlaw?

Naw that's Nu-Freelancer. Still open world. :/

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:38

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

hell9

teump

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:41

eonwe: Aug 11, 2008; Lipstick Apathy

wow this was not the cspam trump thread

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:41

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

eonwe posted:

wow this was not the cspam trump thread

Wait, it isn't? ...

(actually reads thread)

... gently caress!

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:45

SPERMCUBE.ORG: Nov 3, 2011; Space commies are th' biggest threat t' red-blooded American Freedom we got in th' future. So me and my boys got to talking over a few hot dogs the other day and this is what we came up with...

Colostomy Bag posted:

"The messiah of games."

What a world.

Don't be so quick to dismiss the possibility. Remember that Ben Lesnick was once heard speaking in tongues in a message to the flock: Ya woah did ep eh did eh woh did.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:47

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

eonwe posted:

wow this was not the cspam trump thread

# ? Oct 5, 2019 18:49

iron buns: Jan 12, 2016

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:28

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

iron buns posted:

Somebody missed the echo that October is already Q4 ww

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:39

AbstractNapper: Jun 5, 2011; I can help

boviscopophobic posted:

oh yeah. That's the good stuff.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:39

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Aren't caves usually smooth due to being created by erosion?

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:46

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

Beluga Snail posted:

Question - where would the archive of the various development history things be floating around? I can't seem to find it, namely that picture from the early days team that looks like a Trump Cabinet photo because there's only like 2 people left in total.

Not sure on the archive, but here's some stuff that probably comes from there originally, including that photo.

Archive itself is bound to be in SCAM somewhere...

Pixelate fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Oct 5, 2019

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:52

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

XK posted:

Aren't caves usually smooth due to being created by erosion?

That was my colonoscopy pre-user name.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 19:55

Loxbourne: Apr 6, 2011; Tomorrow, doom!
But now, tea.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

BUT the instant a ship sale under-performs, leading to the next ship sale being a disastrous flop- too many backer's faith would be shaken. If enough people say "well, I'll sit this sale out and see what happens", well it's like the end of a ponzi scheme. Less new money coming in means no money paid out means even less new money coming in...

CIG have enough in the bank to weather a bad ship sale or two. They've done it before - the space bus was a disaster for all we like to mock the drinks minigame, the superfighter fatigue as backers rebelled against endless oneupmanship in single-seat fighters, the same thing happening with jetbikes after a while (when they stopped being useful as LTI mules), the terraformer ship that was swiftly memory-holed, the armoured transport ship for your space tonks, and so on.

A run of bad ships might trigger an unforced error or two that turns out to be what finally sends whales diving for the exits, but one or even two bad ship sales in a row won't stop the dream. We've seen before that it takes a direct, un-ignorable attack on a whale's personal dreams to snap them out of it. You have to specifically undercut their belief that one day they'll be lording it over the unwashed masses in their space yacht.

That's why CIG never touches the spaceships once the sale is over. Messing with the specifications is incredibly dangerous. Look what happened with the missing seat in the alien bubble-fighter - the biggest uprising the backers have ever had, and all over whether an obscure and expensive fightercraft was single or two-seater.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 20:00

Thoatse: Feb 29, 2016; Lol said the scorpion, lmao

XK posted:

Aren't caves usually smooth due to being created by erosion?

Your thinking of brains

# ? Oct 5, 2019 20:05

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

Loxbourne posted:

CIG have enough in the bank to weather a bad ship sale or two. They've done it before - the space bus was a disaster for all we like to mock the drinks minigame, the superfighter fatigue as backers rebelled against endless oneupmanship in single-seat fighters, the same thing happening with jetbikes after a while (when they stopped being useful as LTI mules), the terraformer ship that was swiftly memory-holed, the armoured transport ship for your space tonks, and so on.

A run of bad ships might trigger an unforced error or two that turns out to be what finally sends whales diving for the exits, but one or even two bad ship sales in a row won't stop the dream. We've seen before that it takes a direct, un-ignorable attack on a whale's personal dreams to snap them out of it. You have to specifically undercut their belief that one day they'll be lording it over the unwashed masses in their space yacht.

That's why CIG never touches the spaceships once the sale is over. Messing with the specifications is incredibly dangerous. Look what happened with the missing seat in the alien bubble-fighter - the biggest uprising the backers have ever had, and all over whether an obscure and expensive fightercraft was single or two-seater.

That's a very well-reasoned assessment of the situation.

:discourse:

# ? Oct 5, 2019 20:33

TheGreatEvilKing: Mar 28, 2016

But you can't use half these ships...

Is Elite Dangerous any good?

# ? Oct 5, 2019 20:50

Jonny Shiloh: Mar 7, 2019; You 'orrible little man

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

But you can't use half these ships...

Is Elite Dangerous any good?

Yes.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 20:52

TheDeadlyShoe: Feb 14, 2014; pretense is my co-pilot

elite dangerous has grind and content issues, but the basic gameplay of flying & fighting is Pretty Good�

# ? Oct 5, 2019 21:26

mjotto: Nov 8, 2017

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Is Elite Dangerous any good?

What does your heart tell you?

# ? Oct 5, 2019 21:28

Pixelate: Jan 6, 2018; "You win by having fun"

iron buns posted:

# ? Oct 5, 2019 21:42

monkeytek: Jun 8, 2010; It wasn't an ELE that wiped out the backer funds. It was Tristan Timothy Taylor.

Pixelate posted:

I am humbled, the CIG faithful have proven me wrong. Truly, the pipelines have kicked in and the delivery rate is astounding. Why there should be a second solar system by the end of 2025!

# ? Oct 5, 2019 22:17

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

iron buns posted:

At 7-8 items per quarter it'll only take them another 12 quarters to get into beta. I'm hyped.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 22:30

Sanya Juutilainen: Jun 19, 2019; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

trucutru posted:

At 7-8 items per quarter it'll only take them another 12 quarters to get into beta. I'm hyped.

What is beta anyway~

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:00

mjotto: Nov 8, 2017

Star Citizen: pay to beta

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:04

Agony Aunt: Apr 17, 2018; by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

Is Elite Dangerous any good?

Do you like Marmite?

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:05

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

What is beta anyway~

Who knows.

At this point I would like for Elon Musk and Roberts to discuss things.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:28

Aesaar: Mar 19, 2015

DarkDobe posted:

I'd play the poo poo out of a Freespace-alike or *dreams here* FS3. The ending of 2 is at once.the best and worst for that. Shivans!!!

Just get FSO and play Blue Planet.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:31

Quavers: Feb 26, 2016; You clearly don't understand game development

Star Citizen Alpha 3.7.0j PTU patch notes

Known Issues

VOIP will not transmit to players less than 200 meters away.
Renting many ships in succession can cause the kiosk to time out.
The Mustang Gamma and Omega will overheat when starting the quantum drive.
Equipping any of the new Kroneg weapons onto a ship will negatively affect the ship's pitch and roll speed.
Snoopy cap appears in hair style options on the character customizer.
P-72's ship description contains placeholder text.
In Star Marine's Demien Comms enemy indicators can sometimes be seen through walls.
There's a chance a vehicle will become unresponsive after quantum travel.
CRU-L5 is obstructed from most directions.
The Freelancer MIS bounces on the pad when spawned.
Darneely uses the wrong audio dialogue when offering a mission.
NPC beacons will sometimes display an incorrect distance.
Players can not complete the Clovus downed satellite counter measure after killing the opposing player when they are in possession of the computer blade.
"Maintenance" mission objective boxes vanish when they are picked up and dropped.
The video feed for ATC is currently blank.
AI ships traveling along a route will often get stuck.
Attempting to quantum travel to destinations from orbit of ArcCorp or its moons may result in the player colliding with the surface.
Ships can spin excessively out of control when their wing is clipped.
Landing illegally and having your ship despawn while a mission box is inside will break mission progress.
Players in the same ship may see the ship in different locations.
The textures on the Reclaimer's main turret are incorrect.
There's a large rectangular area missing from the surface of Daymar around one of the caves.
Multiple scope crosshairs are off center when viewed in ADS.
Corpses at derelicts are hidden under objects or hull.
Players may crash when loading into the industrial hangar.
Players may crash when changing hair back to original when using the character customizer.
Ships may display as rented if the player exits to title while a claim is in progress.
The reformation distortion scattergun currently has a blue light texture issue.
The default hair may be present under other hairstyles.

# ? Oct 5, 2019 23:51

skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

Mirificus posted:

I hope for his own sake that he is BSing.

# ? Oct 6, 2019 00:12

trucutru: Jul 9, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

Quavers posted:

[*]Ships may display as rented if the player exits to title while a claim is in progress.

They really have a trusted client model in their MMO, don't they?

# ? Oct 6, 2019 00:16

Cao Ni Ma: May 25, 2010

iron buns posted:

already q4, only 3/11 tasks were complete 4/11 tasks get pushed to other patches and the rest are in limbo

They are going to crunch on another holiday season

# ? Oct 6, 2019 00:25

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

TWITCH: Astropub, Bored, and Darj talk The Lady Macbeth

The show is still streaming but they spent almost ten minutes on it.

AstroPub hasn�t even seen it, but Darj and Bored have. So they squirm while giving it the �nothing to see here� treatment. Darj was clearly :argh:

to be featured in it.

It�s just another Forbes piece, really.
It�s just one person�s opinions, it�s not supported by fact.
Nepotism is great no matter what.
You can�t argue with all the success Sandi has created, can you?
The reason Chris and Sandi don�t do videos now is that it�s time to work.
Chris is single-handedly creating a new physics engine from scratch and that�s great because he coded Wing Commander. (�I mean Chris coding? He�s pretty brilliant.�)

Pretty awesome segment. All it needed was an Erris meltdown.

# ? Oct 6, 2019 00:49

biglads: Feb 21, 2007; I could've gone to Blatherwycke

Snoopy cap is in. Just the final polish needed before release. What do you think? 2 weeks?

# ? Oct 6, 2019 00:58

Tokamak: Dec 22, 2004

G0RF posted:

* Chris is single-handedly creating a new physics engine from scratch and that�s great because he coded Wing Commander. (�I mean Chris coding? He�s pretty brilliant.�)

I'm sure the guy who had a hand in coding the current mess was just a moment of clarity away from making something awesome.

# ? Oct 6, 2019 01:14

Complications: Jun 19, 2014

Just crack open a physics book, in the end it's all just a few dozen equations. I'm sure what's going on is just some minor transcription errors that any common a garden genius can spend an afternoon on and handle. Really, setting up pipelines is far more important to the firehose of amazeballs content waiting just around the next patch.

# ? Oct 6, 2019 01:17

G0RF: Mar 19, 2015; Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

biglads posted:

Snoopy cap is in. Just the final polish needed before release. What do you think? 2 weeks?

So soon? Seems like only yesterday Chris was sending them back to the drawing board!

# ? Oct 6, 2019 01:49

skeletors_condom: Jul 21, 2017

"...effectively re-designing the whole game, which seems unlikely at this stage."

Normally I would agree, but this being CIG/Crobo...

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A Concrete Divider: Jan 20, 2012; The Unbearable Whiteness of Eating

The hell is a snoopy cap lmao

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