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Sandwolf posted:“Sandwolf didn’t grasp relatively complex mechanics to try and create a distraction” Its not complex at all dude
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:05 |
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# ? Apr 27, 2024 17:38 |
Tommu posted:Its really not hard. yes thank you I grasp this, great. I don’t understand how it seems to have affected your role “triggering,” per se?
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:06 |
Tommu posted:Its not complex at all dude compared to my role it sure fuckin’ is
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:06 |
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:07 |
Tommu posted:Hello if my deathproof is expended by majority vote i become vanilla town and day continues onto deadline. Tommu posted:If my deathproof 1 shot gets used any other way i become scumbo I’m sorry but these posts seem to imply that this has not triggered yet, otherwise why not just tell us you’re vanilla town and not overly complicate this poo poo?
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:08 |
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basically just ignore the whole thing Tommu getting hammered and that ending the day is already the natural order of things the only reason there was any confusion about it was because Tommu himself came out to say his role should've given us another free post-lunch extension he likely didn't know about the special mod fiat "only two hammers per day" rule any more than we did, and just put everything about his role out there in good faith without thinking through how that would make him look like a liar. Dancer pounced on the contradiction that was there, and the mod cleared up this game rule that apparently overrides abilities like ASF's. tl;dr: basically just ignore the whole thing
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:08 |
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Tommu posted:Hello if my deathproof is expended by majority vote i become vanilla town and day continues onto deadline. Sandwolf posted:how has this scenario not come to pass then? Mr. Steak posted:mod-clarification on qualities of the extra lunch.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:09 |
Tommu please stop doing that I get I’m loving dumb but that’s not as clear as you think it is
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:10 |
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Bifauxnen posted:basically just ignore the whole thing Thank u bif
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:11 |
The scenario I’m referring to is you becoming town/scum. Why are you avoiding this part of the question.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:11 |
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i really didn't intend for this to be so confusing. the reason for my clarification was i don't want a potential mod-error to blatantly contradict a person's claim. a lie should be contradicted by real things, not meta things, and the truth shouldnt be turned into a lie by a mod-error. the wording of the clarification was vague so that im not giving any more info than i have to.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:12 |
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Sandwolf posted:how has this scenario not come to pass then? See Bif I want to agree with you but, as Tommu points out, this thing right here is genuinely at least slightly odd (and suss). Like, it's not inherently scummy for Sandwolf to not get how it works, but in order for him to ask that question, my interpretation is that he kinda did have to get how it works.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:12 |
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ok well hopefully the day continuing thing is dead and buried now, I guess Sandwolf is still concerned about the other part of the claim, the alignment changing part of the claim. I don't get what's so confusing about it though, you either just think Tommu's full of poo poo or you don't
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:14 |
Dancer posted:See Bif I want to agree with you but, as Tommu points out, this thing right here is genuinely at least slightly odd (and suss). WHAT? He detailed a scenario that I was aware occurred earlier in the game? What the gently caress, I was simply asking why he hasn’t become scum/vanilla town if I know he got hammered earlier, which should have expended his deathproof, no? This is totally separate from the 2x hammers a day
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:15 |
Bifauxnen posted:ok well hopefully the day continuing thing is dead and buried now, I guess Sandwolf is still concerned about the other part of the claim, the alignment changing part of the claim. I think he’s full of poo poo because he’s dodging what his alignment is but I’m afraid to loving say anything because you will use it to nail me to the wall
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:16 |
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Sandwolf posted:WHAT? He detailed a scenario that I was aware occurred earlier in the game? What the gently caress, I was simply asking why he hasn’t become scum/vanilla town if I know he got hammered earlier, which should have expended his deathproof, no? Under what presumption are you presuming i havnt
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:17 |
Tommu posted:Under what presumption are you presuming i havnt Because of loving statements like this, yo
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:18 |
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Tommu posted:Hello if my deathproof is expended by majority vote i become vanilla town and day continues onto deadline. Ah yes ive dodged giving my alignment
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:18 |
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Sandwolf posted:WHAT? He detailed a scenario that I was aware occurred earlier in the game? What the gently caress, I was simply asking why he hasn’t become scum/vanilla town if I know he got hammered earlier, which should have expended his deathproof, no? So is your confusion simply a result of the tense used? As in, if this post: Tommu posted:Hello if my deathproof is expended by majority vote i become vanilla town and day continues onto deadline. had instead said Tommu posted:Hello when my deathproof was expended by majority vote i became vanilla town and the day shuold've continued onto deadline.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:18 |
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assuming for the sake of argument that Tommu has told the truth, the scenario did come to pass, and he is and has been vanilla town since. When claiming his role however, and describing how it functioned as given to him, it would still read: "IF you get lunched, you turn town. IF you get killed some other way you turn scum"
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:19 |
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yeah what Dancer said
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:19 |
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You know, it is slightly suss that Tommu didn't immediately notice this, now I think of it.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:19 |
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Holy gently caress just kill me this is the worst series of posts ive ever had to deal with
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:20 |
Dancer posted:So is your confusion simply a result of the tense used? As in, if this post: Yes. The tense implied that it had yet to trigger. He still hasn’t admitted it has triggered, and is being cagey about it.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:20 |
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Tommu posted:Holy gently caress just kill me this is the worst series of posts ive ever had to deal with ugh don't give him wiggle room just spell it out for him and say you're town stupid
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:21 |
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Sandwolf posted:Yes. The tense implied that it had yet to trigger. He still hasn’t admitted it has triggered, and is being cagey about it. ????????????????????????????,?
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:21 |
Tommu posted:Ah yes ive dodged giving my alignment Uhh that doesn’t say “I became” why are you so insistent on NOT saying those words?
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:21 |
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Sandwolf posted:Yes. The tense implied that it had yet to trigger. He still hasn’t admitted it has triggered, and is being cagey about it. ironically this is what makes me less suss of Tommu cause the only reasons to be suspicious are things entirely of his own making
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:22 |
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Bifauxnen posted:ugh don't give him wiggle room just spell it out for him and say you're town stupid I am vanilla town now as a result of being lynched by town. Lie detect this idgaf
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:22 |
Tommu posted:I am vanilla town now as a result of being lynched by town. Jesus Christ was that so difficult, why even put in the put about cheeky-challenging the lie detector. Look, guys, I’m so sorry I didn’t understand that, but it really didn’t feel as clear to me as you were all making it seem.
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:23 |
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Tommu posted:I am vanilla town now as a result of being lynched by town. Please don't, this will fail. If you want to lie detect Tommu, there was an excellent post earlier imo .
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:23 |
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ok I'm clocking in now figure this out yourselves
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:24 |
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Sandwolf posted:Jesus Christ was that so difficult, why even put in the put about cheeky-challenging the lie detector. Stop posting
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:24 |
Tommu posted:Stop posting Why are you so personally angry at me? I didn’t understand a thing, calm down
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# ? Dec 11, 2019 23:26 |
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##vote IS
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 00:26 |
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I'd still vote Sandwolf first probably, just waiting for IS to claim to see if anything wacky happens hope Ghost Friend is still keeping a cool head and not getting tempted to jump the gun here, doin a great job buddy oh you know what else might be a nice idea, MegaZeroX? If we do gently caress things up and get down to definite MYLO/LYLO and you've already used up your lie detect by then... could you use your ghost vote before anyone even casts one, to put someone at negative one votes? That might be a nice thing to do for whoever you think is the towniest, help avoid the risk of someone getting stupid and getting em scumhammered. You can move and remove it throughout the day if you change your mind even.
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 03:09 |
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I’ve skimmed to catch up to this point durning the 15-minute break I’ve allowed myself from work before I go back to hopefully finish up in the next hour or so. I’m going to have to go back again after that because it looks like I missed a whole bunch of arguing over mod clarification that I don’t understand at first glance in context. Will be back as soon as I’m done with work to cover in detail the stuff I’ve missed. If there’s something in specific someone wants me to reply to/cover/weigh in on, please point it out and I’ll grab it. Thanks all.
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 03:20 |
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IllegallySober posted:I’ve skimmed to catch up to this point durning the 15-minute break I’ve allowed myself from work before I go back to hopefully finish up in the next hour or so. I’m going to have to go back again after that because it looks like I missed a whole bunch of arguing over mod clarification that I don’t understand at first glance in context. Hi what's your role tia.
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 04:53 |
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Okay, I’m reading a little more closely now and I’m not sure I like either of these claims. Anomalous Amalgam posted:I'll right we're def at a mylo situation I feel. So you’re essentially a scum backup that’s not actually scum- you just get scum powers once they flip? If this is true, this should already be verified, unless no one put enough votes on you to trigger the Salty thing between what, mid-D2 through the end of D3 when ASF was dunked? I’m skimming right now to see if that’s true. Fake edit: okay, it actually doesn’t look like anyone voted AA at all during that time, so there’s no verification of it. Hmmmmm. I do think the posts between Bif and you from D2 are a point in your favor but that’s also countered in my brain by both the idea of a backup for scum powers that’s actually town as well as your eagerness to test your claim by suggesting we hurry up and dunk someone to show we can do it again. Tommu posted:Hello if my deathproof is expended by majority vote i become vanilla town and day continues onto deadline. Tommu posted:If my deathproof 1 shot gets used any other way i become scumbo And then there’s this. I’m still considering what the mod clarification piece means for your claim, but if I’m remembering correctly the last person to claim alignment fuckery was Mega and that wound up being complete BS, so my suspicion is that you aren’t telling the truth about some part of your role. I just haven’t figured out what it is yet. (In fairness, I’m also pretty brain dead right now). Dancer posted:Hi what's your role tia. I’m going to hold off on this for now because I don’t think it’s in town’s benefit for me to claim at this stage. I will likely claim later this game day. What I will say is that it’s a very good idea for us to be slow and deliberate with votes at this stage. It’s also worth considering if ghost friend needs to chime in today and if so, in what form. It seems to me that today is a good day to use one of the two actions, but I’m willing to be talked out of that opinion.
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 05:40 |
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And yes, I’m self-aware enough to realize that me throwing shade on both claims today while refusing to claim myself right now isn’t a great look, but this is part of the reason I want more discussion and not just a quick decision.
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# ? Dec 12, 2019 05:42 |