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Didn't Mayuri literally dissect and mutilate Uryu's grandpa, take a photo, and show it to Uryu himself years later
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TheHan posted:My ideal scenario would’ve been Ikkaku and Yumichika defecting, then having to fight Kenpachi. Could’ve squeezed some emotional investment outta Kenpachi, wrapped up Yumichika and Ikkaku’s character arcs and gotten a cool fight all at the same time.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:48
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Ytlaya posted:edit: We never found out Aizen's bankai, right? That's annoying. It's entirely possible he never bothered to learn it, given how overpowered Kyoka Suigetsu is to begin with. But it's equally possible that his Bankai was simply no use to him. It's also entirely possible his Zanpakuto rejected him and wouldn't allow him his Bankai. Filler suggested that the Hogyoku actually forced out his Zanpakuto spirit and his Zanpakuto has just been a fake the whole time, merely emulating his original Shikai.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:53
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TheHan posted:Kenpachi joining the rebellion just so he could be opposite the new strongest guys is absolutely what would happen, I was thinking more from the angle of making a better soul society, where adding a guy who’s max violence to your team would be silly. I guess what I’m saying is I’ve been soulpilled by Kaname Tousen. I mean most of the dudes that follow or followed him seem pretty cool. Renji, Iba, Ikkaku, Yumichika. Kenpachi is is the position of the most insane murder hobo, but Zaraki isn't the worst of the lot. He's certainly better than the nazi scientist or the world's most evil grandpa. And hey, he killed a Captain to get the job. Killing a Captain is more than a lot of people can say they did to make Soul Society a better place.
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Jan 23, 2020 01:57
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Spiritus Nox posted:Didn't Mayuri literally dissect and mutilate Uryu's grandpa, take a photo, and show it to Uryu himself years later Yes. Ytlaya posted:edit: We never found out Aizen's bankai, right? That's annoying. My pet theory was always that just as Ichigo had a permanently released shikai because it was so powerful by default it couldn't be sealed, Aizen similarly had a permanently released bankai. And yeah Shinji was great when he was first introduced, the vizards were hit and miss even before they all turned out to be loving useless but Shinji gave off a great vibe and I liked his dynamic with Ichigo. I wish Kubo had trimmed down the vizard cast to either just Shinji, or him plus 2-3 others. That way they could have gone with Ichigo to HM and gotten to actually do things without bloating the story up too much.
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Jan 23, 2020 02:00
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Sydin posted:Yes. Vizards being wasted is a shame, because one part of Bleach I really liked were stuff like Turn the Pendulum where we get to see how the events went down in the past, and it was super dope seeing hot-headed young Byakuya or new Captain Urahara and all that jazz. Getting the Isshin backstory was pretty neat too. Characters (not named Ichigo) interacting with each other were really fun. The loving mini-backstory ends with Shinji going "We Vizards owe Urahara a lot and we gotta pay back Aizen for what he did to us" and then they do jack poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2020 02:08
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Spiritus Nox posted:Didn't Mayuri literally dissect and mutilate Uryu's grandpa, take a photo, and show it to Uryu himself years later Mayuri was a great villain whose character remained pretty consistent. The problem was everyone else started to treat him like a wacky sidekick instead of the horrible monster he is.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:11
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chumbler posted:The final arc being soul society civil war instead of bringing back quincies would've been much better. I honestly can't think of a single one of them that added any value, and only really remember Bambietta who had a pretty rough fate and Bazz B because he was the Renji. Bambietta was way too cute to get done like that
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Jan 23, 2020 03:23
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I couldn't name more than a handful of Sternritter but can probably picture like all of them.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:28
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The baby face wrestler guy absolutely ruled. A couple of the vizards literally jobbed to him and it was unintentionally hilarious.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:41
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Vizards being wasted is a shame Remember how Rose straight up told his enemy how to beat his Bankai and was shocked to immediately get his rear end kicked?
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Jan 23, 2020 03:41
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I like the stenritter who always showed up for fights and ended up getting paired off with a soul reaper, but never actually got any fights and as far as I know his ability is "has a gun"
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Jan 23, 2020 03:43
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I remember how Kensei did jack poo poo. He was my favorite... Didn't he have a loving knuckleduster zanpakutou that shot tornados or some poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:44
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I wonder how much of the stuff we're talking about Tite might had wanted to do but got nixed by his editor. It was either One Piece or DBZ his editor gave him and told him to 'do it like this.'
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Jan 23, 2020 03:51
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Electric Phantasm posted:I like the stenritter who always showed up for fights and ended up getting paired off with a soul reaper, but never actually got any fights and as far as I know his ability is "has a gun" Wasn't that Commissioner Gordon? He shot Shunsui's eye out and then Kubo later forgot that and accidentally drew a bunch of chapters where Kyoraku had no eyepatch, which he had to later go back and correct in the tankoban releases.
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Jan 23, 2020 03:51
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I remember how Kensei did jack poo poo. He was my favorite... I don't think we ever saw his abilities. His first fight was off-screen against hollow Ichigo where he kinda implies he could kill him, then what I think was his last fight was against Wonderweiss. It was also offscreen and he got his rear end whooped.
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Jan 23, 2020 04:02
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TheHan posted:I don't think we ever saw his abilities. His first fight was off-screen against hollow Ichigo where he kinda implies he could kill him, then what I think was his last fight was against Wonderweiss. It was also offscreen and he got his rear end whooped. Oh, I see you've repressed your memories, too. Hisagi gets chumped by the Mask Quincy. Kensei fought the Mask Quincy. Got chumped. Rose fought the Mask Quincy. Got chumped. Renji (previously chumped by Mask Quincy the first time around) comes with his new shikai and chumps Mask Quincy, then Mask Quincy transforms, and then Renji chumps him with his new bankai. Bleach.
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Jan 23, 2020 04:37
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And it was one of the better sequences of the arc.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:13
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Like, you'd think that since Quincies can be poisoned by Hollows (I think using Hollow blood or spiritual residue or whatever was how the captains managed to get back their bankais in the first place), Vizards with their Hollow masks would be a natural counter to them. But no, I don't think any of the Vizards ever pull out their masks after Aizen gets beat down? Also the whole thing about Quincies actually having been, uh, weakened? By the Bankais they stole? Cause it kept them from using their Quincy transformations? Did that actually happen or am I misremembering things.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:16
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Oh, I see you've repressed your memories, too. Outclassed by Renji  Death would’ve been kinder to the Vizards. The only things to stick with me from those fights were Rose embarrassing himself, Mask de Masculine and Renji getting a new bankai that was less visually interesting and not as coherent as his original bankai.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:35
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Rose was literally winning until he decided to explain how his powers worked because all characters in Bleach have a pathological desire to tell them because that's the only way Kubo can tell you things, cause otherwise you have what happened with Unohana's bankai.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:38
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idk Unohana's bankai seemed pretty clear? It loving melts people. Unohana just kept healing Kenpatchi every time he got killed/melted so he'd come back stronger, until he finally hit his true power and killed her.
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Jan 23, 2020 05:46
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Sometimes they’d explain a bankai and it still wouldn’t make sense. Kyoraku’s bankai has a terminal case of late-stage Bleach powers.
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Jan 23, 2020 06:07
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TheHan posted:Sometimes they’d explain a bankai and it still wouldn’t make sense. Kyoraku’s bankai has a terminal case of late-stage Bleach powers. Was that childs have bankai he unleashed against Starrk? I didn't understand it either
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Jan 23, 2020 06:23
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SalTheBard posted:Was that childs have bankai he unleashed against Starrk? I didn't understand it either That was his shikai wasn't it. I thought he only released his bankai during the Quincy arc.
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Jan 23, 2020 06:25
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:That was his shikai wasn't it. I thought he only released his bankai during the Quincy arc. Yep. His Shikai makes obscure Japanese children's games reality. Edit: lol I almost forgot we found out at the end there that Nanao was his niece the whole time SpazmasterX fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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Jan 23, 2020 06:40
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SpazmasterX posted:Yep. His Shikai makes obscure Japanese children's games reality. I still don't fully understand Deathdealing but to be fair I am a moron and I don't fully understand King Crimson either. Though the latter might be because I only watched clips of Golden Wind and read Hunter x Hunter instead of watching/reading all of Part 5.
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Jan 23, 2020 06:52
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From what I remember Kensei had a wind type sword. His shikai was a dagger that could throw wind blasts and his bankai was 2 gauntlets that when they punched someone would send out wind blasts rapidly as long as they were in contact with an opponent. But yeah Kensei was one of the worst jobbers in Bleach.TheHan posted:Sometimes they’d explain a bankai and it still wouldn’t make sense. Kyoraku’s bankai has a terminal case of late-stage Bleach powers. From what I understood his bankai basically forced everyone around him(including himself) into a contest of strength/spirit power with the losers dying. Too bad his opponent was immortal. I think it was very loosely themed around folk tales?
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Jan 23, 2020 06:55
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RatHat posted:From what I remember Kensei had a wind type sword. His shikai was a dagger that could throw wind blasts and his bankai was 2 gauntlets that when they punched someone would send out wind blasts rapidly as long as they were in contact with an opponent. But yeah Kensei was one of the worst jobbers in Bleach. God Kensei I loving loved* you, why couldn't you be less of a jobber. * As much as I could love a character who wasn't Kenpachi or Yoruichi or Urahara and maybe Grimjaw. Personally, Bleach was just one of the worst offenders of regeneration / healing-via-powerup (only for Quincies and Hollows) ever, and that's even when you consider that the final war in Naruto was waged against immortal regenerating zombies.
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Jan 23, 2020 07:02
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Schubalts posted:Remember how Rose straight up told his enemy how to beat his Bankai and was shocked to immediately get his rear end kicked? actually he just explained his power was warping reality with music and the wrestler guy decided that meant he could just gouge his own ears out to no-sell it. It's only because of his own wrestling powers that worked.
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Jan 23, 2020 07:06
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TheHan posted:Sometimes they’d explain a bankai and it still wouldn’t make sense. Kyoraku’s bankai has a terminal case of late-stage Bleach powers. And let's not even get into the fact that one of his swords wasn't even his, it was Nanao's but Kyoraku was still able to use it because ??? Also that half of his big bankai reveal was that he wanted to bang his own sword.
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Jan 23, 2020 08:00
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Stairmaster posted:actually he just explained his power was warping reality with music and the wrestler guy decided that meant he could just gouge his own ears out to no-sell it. It's only because of his own wrestling powers that worked. Nah, his bankai makes anyone who hear his music see illusions that become real to them. It requires you to actually hear the music just like Aizen’s illusions require you to see him release his sword.
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Jan 23, 2020 08:16
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Sydin posted:And let's not even get into the fact that one of his swords wasn't even his, it was Nanao's but Kyoraku was still able to use it because ??? I mean Tousen used his old crush's sword. Might even be using the same shikai? And Kenpachi is also using a sword he lifted off a dude he killed as a kid.
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Jan 23, 2020 09:30
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Sydin posted:And let's not even get into the fact that one of his swords wasn't even his, it was Nanao's but Kyoraku was still able to use it because ??? I think the implication was that Nanao’s Sword was sealed inside one of his? Her’s had a completely different look and its own set of convoluted powers. A small mercy was that even though Kubo canonized Kyoraku’s zanpakuto spirit he didn’t change Zabimaru to that horrible big breasted furry woman and child design. TheHan fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jan 23, 2020 |
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Jan 23, 2020 14:21
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Sydin posted:And let's not even get into the fact that one of his swords wasn't even his, it was Nanao's but Kyoraku was still able to use it because ??? Nanao's zanpakuto was hidden inside Kyokotsu, she wasn't her sword.
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Jan 23, 2020 14:22
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Ugh, mentioning Vizoreds reminded me that Mashiro was so loving wasted. Imagine adding a kick-rear end Kamen Rider homage to your manga and then making up some bullshit rule about mask timers just in time to use it to make them job and never be relevant again. Mashiro and Kensei were the best and they didn't get to do poo poo.
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Jan 23, 2020 18:43
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How many loving times did shunsui kill the X-AXIS SNYPAH only for them to come back from the dead due to kubo bullshit? Three? And then he gets killed because nanaos sword reflects his attack back on him or some poo poo. Just absolute dogshit writing. They even made a whole hulabaloo about how shunsui doesn't like using his bankai because it affects (and tries to kill) everyone that get's caught in it and the bad guy's just like "lol nah didn't work im an owl monster now".
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Jan 23, 2020 18:46
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HerraS posted:How many loving times did shunsui kill the X-AXIS SNYPAH only for them to come back from the dead due to kubo bullshit? Three? And then he gets killed because nanaos sword reflects his attack back on him or some poo poo. Just absolute dogshit writing. They even made a whole hulabaloo about how shunsui doesn't like using his bankai because it affects (and tries to kill) everyone that get's caught in it and the bad guy's just like "lol nah didn't work im an owl monster now". There was Sniper, Angel, and then Owl. After his attack got reflected back at him it showed him falling down to Soul Society and splitting into multiple Owls and Kira showing up to fight them.
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Jan 23, 2020 18:53
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Considering everybody was fighting bits of the Soul King near the end it was a huge wasted opportunity that we didn't get 50 chapters of the fullbringers and Ganju fighting the Soul King's dick.
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HerraS posted:How many loving times did shunsui kill the X-AXIS SNYPAH only for them to come back from the dead due to kubo bullshit? Three? And then he gets killed because nanaos sword reflects his attack back on him or some poo poo. Just absolute dogshit writing. They even made a whole hulabaloo about how shunsui doesn't like using his bankai because it affects (and tries to kill) everyone that get's caught in it and the bad guy's just like "lol nah didn't work im an owl monster now". Literally not one of them actually died until Ywach sucked them up, I think.
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