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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Mainland China, Province of Taiwan #1 Republic of China

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Korthal
May 26, 2011

Sun Yat-sen's true successors.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Grand Fromage posted:

(though nobody has the sheer balls of China nukes)

Back to Canada, though - how much of Parliament can be considered bought out?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

On the Japanese cruise ship the mortality is 0% and serious case rate around 5%.

They are definitely getting a lot more better care than in China where it has overrun the medical system.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51440129

quote:

Huang's grandparents started to have respiratory symptoms on 20 January. They couldn't go to a hospital until 26 January as it was difficult for them to get around after Wuhan was put into effective lockdown on 23 January, with public transport suspended.

They were diagnosed with the novel coronavirus on 29 January, but were only admitted to a hospital three days later.

But the hospital was so full that there were no empty beds. His grandparents had high fever and difficulty breathing, but were only offered seats in the corridor. He begged the hospital staff and he managed to get a long chair and a folding bed.

"There's no doctor or nurse in sight," Huang wrote in his diary, "Hospital without doctors is just like a graveyard."

The night before his grandfather passed away, Huang was with his grandparents in the corridor. He kept chatting with his grandmother so that she wouldn't know that his grandfather was experiencing delirium, he says.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

One of the big dangers of this thing is that it takes its sweet time killing

Bardeh
Dec 2, 2004

Fun Shoe
Hey, who's this Pangzai d....

https://twitter.com/hebeipangzai/status/1228682211387330560

:stare:

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:

On the Japanese cruise ship the mortality is 0% and serious case rate around 5%.

So basically the flu in non-lovely healthcare countries.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



less smog on the ship

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Grand Fromage posted:

Taiwan claims all of China,

This is my favorite one, since they occasionally threaten to stop claiming all of China, and China always swears to declare war if they do. :v:

Seriously though, thanks; that’s a good reminder that Mad About Islands is actually pretty normal for the region.

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane

Peachfart posted:

So basically the flu in non-lovely healthcare countries.

Possibly the ability to drink water that isn't hot helps too.

There might not be enough hot water to go round if all the nurses and doctors are sick too.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010

Akratic Method posted:

This is my favorite one, since they occasionally threaten to stop claiming all of China, and China always swears to declare war if they do. :v:

Seriously though, thanks; that’s a good reminder that Mad About Islands is actually pretty normal for the region.

Wait what? I thought I was knowledgeable about mainland Taiwan relations, but this is the first I heard of this.

Escape Addict
Jan 25, 2012

YOSPOS
I have a question and I'm hoping China goons can help me out. I'm really curious about brands of snacks/drinks from other countries and I'd like to know more about whatever it is that Pangzai is drinking.





I know the clear stuff is some high-proof baiju, which many have said tastes like paint thinner. Is the opaque white one just milk?

I'd like to know more about those colorful drinks. Any guess what they are, specifically? Are those forms of liquor that are naturally that color? Or are they juice, sodas, or sports drinks, possibly mixed with baiju?

Also, what brand of beer is Pangzai always chugging? Is it any good, or is just a generic crappy watery lager?

Can any of you identify what all the different colored drinks are? And if so, have you tried them? How do they taste?

Thanks!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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fish and chips and dip posted:

Wait what? I thought I was knowledgeable about mainland Taiwan relations, but this is the first I heard of this.

As long as Taiwan keeps pretending to have a claim to mainland China it is implicitly acknowledging that it is "China"

If they officially gave up the claim it would be an acknowledgement that they aren't "China" and hence damage the PRC's claims that Taiwan is a "rogue province"

You might be thinking "wow that's really loving stupid" and it is

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Escape Addict posted:

Can any of you identify what all the different colored drinks are? And if so, have you tried them? How do they taste?

The clear one is probably baijiu, yes. The opaque white one is probably either a nut milk (there's a good peanut/walnut combo one) or choujiu, which is like Chinese makgeolli. No clue at all about the colored stuff. I have never had that beer but am 100% confident it's generic watery poo poo.

There really aren't any good Chinese alcohols. Huangjiu can be okay sometimes, and there's good craft beer. Most of it is just paint thinner though.

Escape Addict
Jan 25, 2012

YOSPOS

Grand Fromage posted:

The clear one is probably baijiu, yes. The opaque white one is probably either a nut milk (there's a good peanut/walnut combo one) or choujiu, which is like Chinese makgeolli. No clue at all about the colored stuff. I have never had that beer but am 100% confident it's generic watery poo poo.

There really aren't any good Chinese alcohols. Huangjiu can be okay sometimes, and there's good craft beer. Most of it is just paint thinner though.

Thanks for the response. It's those colorful drinks that fascinate me most. I wonder what kind of stuff they sell in rural China in grocery stores or convenience stores. I wonder if it's the rural China equivalent of Faygo.

When I see something like this Russian military drinking ritual,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAnVIhuANlg

I always wonder what those mixers are and what they taste like.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


There's all kinds of local sodas and stuff, the usual juices (usually very sweet and weird tasting). None of it is that great. It's weird how great China is at food but when it comes to drinks, not so much. Lot of good teas, that peanut/walnut milk is great, and... uh.

d0s
Jun 28, 2004

I always thought he was just putting food coloring in baiju to make the video look more interesting

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Took the quick way down some stairs this morning and broke my left Scapula. My mother in law was shocked that the following didn't happen. (her first time seeing a western hospital's ER process)

-I didn't call an ambulance (took a cab)
-They didn't collect ID, just my health card
-I had a series of X-rays within 30 minutes
-I was not on some manner of IV drip
-They didn't directly sell me a trail mix bag of random pills
-I was out within 3 hours (didn't stay overnight or up to three days)
-I am able to walk
-I'm planning on being back at school next-next Monday (after the break)

She expected at least 2 days in the hospital and 30 days from work and something more than Tylenol 3s and some anti-inflammatories. She was asking my wife if I was being denied care in some way.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

d0s posted:

I always thought he was just putting food coloring in baiju to make the video look more interesting

It must be beer or another drink with the same ABV. If it was baijiu, he'd be drinking an entire fifth in many of those videos.

Or for pro-level shanzhai, it was just colored water the entire time.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Wish there was a way for a MMA fighter to beat the poo poo out of TCM

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Blistex posted:

She was asking my wife if I was being denied care in some way.

:lol:

Glad that you are ok.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

oohhboy posted:

:lol:

Glad that you are ok.

Thanks.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Blistex posted:

Took the quick way down some stairs this morning and broke my left Scapula.
And already you're back posting!

How broken is it? I've only broken a metatarsal but even that required general anaesthesia and pins.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Wish I could get a month off work.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

WarpedNaba posted:

Wish I could get a month off work.

Have a baby. I've been off for 2 months now.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

oxsnard posted:



From a Goldman Sachs research report

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

GotLag posted:

And already you're back posting!

One-handed while on Codine . . . so business as usual.

GotLag posted:

How broken is it? I've only broken a metatarsal but even that required general anaesthesia and pins.

She said that it's a fracture, but luckily where it broke my muscles will hold the parts together.

dead prez
Sep 22, 2019

Everytime I look around, I see
So much drama goin down
Everytime I look around, I see
So much fakeness goin down
WUHAN

JIAYOU

yaffle
Sep 15, 2002

Flapdoodle

Despera posted:

Wish there was a way for a MMA fighter to beat the poo poo out of TCM

"And in the red corner, about to embark on world tour, he's the flu from wu, the cytokine storm, NCoV 19!"

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me
From the CSPAM Wuhan virus thread

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

chinese hair cave posted:

Has anyone heard of Pangzai, the Chinese peasant farmer who chugs beers tornado style and can break bottles with one hand? I’m worried about him because he keeps mentioning “I want to show what real peasant life is,rather than the propaganda films”. Is he at risk for being Dissapeared?

More likely it will be like that other popular video maker, the old lady that made the funny/silly videos of life in rural China, (forgive me but I forget her name and exactly where she was from). I only heard about her from the previous version of this thread.

She was making silly/fun/irreverent videos that were hugely popular, and that sometimes poked gentle fun at the authorities and way of life in rural China. The CCP found out, got involved gave her some funding, and now she still makes videos, but they are all rural cooking poo poo proclaiming the greatness of homestyle Chinese traditional cooking and culture, free from evil western influence. And none of the funny little skits she used to do.

So if the CCP got wind of him, he would probably just devolve into spruiking how great life in the glorious Chinese countryside is. Again, forgive me for forgetting the name of the awesomely sweet old lady.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

yaffle posted:

"And in the red corner, about to embark on world tour, he's the flu from wu, the cytokine storm, NCoV 19!"

1st wave of Spanish flu wasn't that deadly. It was the 2nd wave that induced the cytokine storms

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Escape Addict posted:


I know the clear stuff is some high-proof baiju, which many have said tastes like paint thinner.

This is untrue. It smellslike paint thinner. It tastes like a mix of how a gas station and old socks smell.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

BrigadierSensible posted:

Again, forgive me for forgetting the name of the awesomely sweet old lady.

Liu mama

From the looks of it, all of her old stuff is gone and you can only see the new boring stuff. Maybe it's hidden until you register or download the app, but lol at having to give a phone number to this site.

https://live.kuaishou.com/profile/lm520666

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

fish and chips and dip posted:

Wait what? I thought I was knowledgeable about mainland Taiwan relations, but this is the first I heard of this.

The joke is that compromise of the One China Policy is both sides agree that there's one China and disagree on which of them owns the other one. The flipside of Taiwan abandoning its claim to be rightful government of all China is its declaration of independence and separation from the mainland, which obviously the PRC is having none of. It's all stuff you knew about, just read in a deliberately roundabout manner.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

The CCP is attempting to do with Huawei exactly what the US/CIA did with the swedish Crypto company that got exposed by the Washington Post last week. Except Huawei infrastructure will allow them to do it to average citizens instead of only encrypted government communications.

Huawei sells their equipment for waaaay cheaper than competitors and offers 0% 3yr financing (financed via 0% loans to Huawei from the CCP controlled banks). Then after you have their equipment in a large part of your infrastructure they can (and do) put out patches that break its interoperability with other manufacturer's equipment so you have to replace that with Huawei stuff. Eventually they have you by the balls and locked into only Huawei equipment since a large corporation can't just replace 50%+ of their infrastructure overnight. These are all documented Huawei business practices.

This is why the US is throwing a shitfit about allies incorporating Huawei into their communications infrastructure. Because in 10 years when Huawei has infiltrated a large enough percentage of their infrastructure the CCP can do pretty much whatever they want and nobody will be able to do poo poo about it. If you want to get Huawei out of your infrastructure you would have to go a very long period of time with that infrastructure being down because you can't just replace it all at once and Huawei is known to push patches that break their stuff on purpose when a company starts to go down the path of replacing their equipment.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Woke up from a nap and had some homemade hot pot (good). My mother in law asked if the hospital reimbursed me for the shirt they cut off me. She still has a sour look on her face from my treatment. She asked if I didn't want to pay for the premium package or something. I told her everyone gets the same treatment, but she doesn't seem convinced.

She told me her classmate's son back in China fell on some ice and broke his clavicle ten years ago (he'd be in his late 20s). His stay in the hospital was just shy of a month, and he had two IV bags per day and an assortment of painkillers for the entire time. When he was discharged he was given an array of pills that he had to take for an additional TWO months.

While he was in the hospital he had an x-ray every week, and three follow-up sessions once a month. She thinks that the bill came to somewhere around 10k RMB.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

D-Pad posted:

The CCP is attempting to do with Huawei exactly what the US/CIA did with the swedish Crypto company that got exposed by the Washington Post last week. Except Huawei infrastructure will allow them to do it to average citizens instead of only encrypted government communications.

Huawei sells their equipment for waaaay cheaper than competitors and offers 0% 3yr financing (financed via 0% loans to Huawei from the CCP controlled banks). Then after you have their equipment in a large part of your infrastructure they can (and do) put out patches that break its interoperability with other manufacturer's equipment so you have to replace that with Huawei stuff. Eventually they have you by the balls and locked into only Huawei equipment since a large corporation can't just replace 50%+ of their infrastructure overnight. These are all documented Huawei business practices.

This is why the US is throwing a shitfit about allies incorporating Huawei into their communications infrastructure. Because in 10 years when Huawei has infiltrated a large enough percentage of their infrastructure the CCP can do pretty much whatever they want and nobody will be able to do poo poo about it. If you want to get Huawei out of your infrastructure you would have to go a very long period of time with that infrastructure being down because you can't just replace it all at once and Huawei is known to push patches that break their stuff on purpose when a company starts to go down the path of replacing their equipment.

You gotta imagine though, there's some group in the CIA or NSA that is doesn't give a poo poo either way because they know about some backdoor zero day and have a way to remotely flash their own custom firmware to every huawei device worldwide to co-opt them for US interests

and the machines still operate exactly like they used to, no actual performance was lost. the controls just switched hands, so it's not like china can just start screaming bloody murder about how they lost access to their spy tool (but thats probably exactly what they'd do lol)

Blow
Feb 10, 2004

Pangolin meat is dark, with a sticky, stringy texture. We ate it with rice. The scales were just barely edible, with a crunch like a human fingernail. My friend asked if we mind if he took the head.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
Did you mind?

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d0s
Jun 28, 2004

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