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DelilahFlowers
Jan 10, 2020

https://twitter.com/yarahawari/status/1243468460409135104?s=19

Israel is loving this corona thing and is doing all it can to spread it around. Just not to their precious aryan race

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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

The Oldest Man posted:

Would you be eager to go lick all your friends right after hell virus lockdown was lifted? A few people would but I don't think that's most people. There'd be a ramp up over time.

My understanding is that the lockdown would basically be guaranteed to resume at some point (with the reprieve being measured in weeks not months), so yeah I imagine a lot of people who have been isolated for months are going to take the opportunity to get what contact that they can before going back in for another few months.

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

Telsa Cola posted:

Finnish citizens are handling this poo poo way differently and theres already different cultural norms Re: distancing that im not sure thats a fair comparison.

Eh I dunno there's people still going to bars, shopping centers and skiing trips (before all the ski centers closed) and all kinds of dumbass stuff here, but maybe the difference in cultural norms will have some positive impact in the end. Now most things are closed, apart from bars and restaurants which should shutter on Monday - turns out it was legally more complicated to force a shutdown on private enterprises than the government thought.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here

DelilahFlowers posted:

https://twitter.com/yarahawari/status/1243468460409135104?s=19

Israel is loving this corona thing and is doing all it can to spread it around. Just not to their precious aryan race

The most obvious thing that was going to happen. Just barely inching ahead of the US doing the worst job in the world of handling things.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Nurge posted:

I don't know. I'm not an epidomologist, but if most countries dealing with this poo poo are doing the same thing I'm going to have to actually assume that it's the right thing to do. I guess we'll see.

No need to say "we'll see". We already saw it:

https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1243968247730503681

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Nurge posted:

It's the biggest concentration of infected people in the country no?

No, it's the biggest concentration of known infected people.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

yeah. this is gonna start a loving panic. if he had done this quietly a month ago it could have maybe worked. now its way to late and will only spread poo poo.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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In more positive news, the US Navy is dispatching its two hospital ships, the USNS Comfort and the USNS Mercy, to New York City and Los Angeles respectively.

Their mission is to absorb non-Covid-19 related patients and emergencies so as to free up more hospital space on the mainland.

Each ship is equipped with 1000 beds including 80 ICU's. They both also have their own on-board diagnostic facilities, laboratories, pharmacies, and operating rooms.

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




Fojar38 posted:

Each ship is equipped with 1000 beds including 80 ICU's. They both also have their own on-board diagnostic facilities, laboratories, pharmacies, and operating rooms.

really curious how surgical operating on a ship works for stability.

Deviant
Sep 26, 2003

i've forgotten all of your names.


ketchup vs catsup posted:

really curious how surgical operating on a ship works for stability.

i don't think big ships like that feel every tiny wave

D1E
Nov 25, 2001


ketchup vs catsup posted:

really curious how surgical operating on a ship works for stability.

The thing's gonna be tied up to a port. It's big as gently caress.

It's not moving.

Their use case is always to be in operation while moored. Nobody's gonna be doing open-heart surgery on one while underway with 6-foot swells.

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe

ketchup vs catsup posted:

really curious how surgical operating on a ship works for stability.

I'm going to assume that outside emergencies they're only used in calm weather or in port, and not while gunning it somewhere.

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

In more positive news, the US Navy is dispatching its two hospital ships, the USNS Comfort and the USNS Mercy, to New York City and Los Angeles respectively.

Their mission is to absorb non-Covid-19 related patients and emergencies so as to free up more hospital space on the mainland.

Each ship is equipped with 1000 beds including 80 ICU's. They both also have their own on-board diagnostic facilities, laboratories, pharmacies, and operating rooms.
the issue with taking in non covid patients is that you don't know who is infected or not, especially out here in Los Angeles where testing has seriously lagged behind massively

not quite sure how they are gonna deal with that

Mercury Ballistic
Nov 14, 2005

not gun related
They sit at anchor or pierside. A ship that size tied up there is little to no perceptible motion. The only weirdness might be list or trim issues, but I am pretty sure they are built for that.

I supported the comfort in Haiti and did reserve duty on the mercy before that.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

DreamingofRoses posted:

It’s going to hit down here really bad, I think.

It already is, OP, we're just not testing enough to know the difference.

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Nevermind, Horrible link

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
The bulk of the world is already experiencing cases in the millions regardless of what official numbers say. You could probably randomly test any given sample of the global urban population at this point and find at least 50% of them either have it or have had it.

The fact that this virus seems to manifest so mildly in most of the population is one of the reasons its so infectious. Things like coughing and sneezing and snorting and puking and general sick behavior is a built-in feature of human biology that not only functions as an immune response in itself but also is sort of a psuedo-community immune response, in that symptoms mean that someone who is sick doesn't want to do anything but lie around and other people can see that they are sick, which makes us more cautious around them.

Covid-19 is essentially the evolutionary jackpot for viruses insofar as infecting humans is concerned. Not lethal enough to kill most of its hosts and quiet enough to avoid triggering symptoms at the same time. There are virtually no biological barriers to its proliferation.

This thing is going to be around for the foreseeable future and in the long term it's probably something everyone is just going to have to learn to live with.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

The Oldest Man posted:

Would you be eager to go lick all your friends right after hell virus lockdown was lifted?

Yes, and most of them expect it at this point.

CelestialScribe
Jan 16, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!

Fojar38 posted:

The bulk of the world is already experiencing cases in the millions regardless of what official numbers say. You could probably randomly test any given sample of the global urban population at this point and find at least 50% of them either have it or have had it.

The fact that this virus seems to manifest so mildly in most of the population is one of the reasons its so infectious. Things like coughing and sneezing and snorting and puking and general sick behavior is a built-in feature of human biology that not only functions as an immune response in itself but also is sort of a psuedo-community immune response, in that symptoms mean that someone who is sick doesn't want to do anything but lie around and other people can see that they are sick, which makes us more cautious around them.

Covid-19 is essentially the evolutionary jackpot for viruses insofar as infecting humans is concerned. Not lethal enough to kill most of its hosts and quiet enough to avoid triggering symptoms at the same time. There are virtually no biological barriers to its proliferation.

This thing is going to be around for the foreseeable future and in the long term it's probably something everyone is just going to have to learn to live with.

Unless there is a vaccine.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

CelestialScribe posted:

Unless there is a vaccine.

Yeah and there almost certainly will be one, and the fact that Covid-19 apparently doesn't really mutate much (why would it, its current strategy is working great!) means that it will probably be effective for more than a season, but it'll be bouncing around the world and spreading in various communities around the world for decades, if not centuries to come.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


CelestialScribe posted:

Unless there is a vaccine.

I've become more and more pessimistic on his happening any time in the next couple years given as far as I can tell, there's never been a successful vaccine for any Coronavirus.

Like the few potential ones that came out for SARS were horrible patient killing failures weren't they?

Ika
Dec 30, 2004
Pure insanity

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

I've become more and more pessimistic on his happening any time in the next couple years given as far as I can tell, there's never been a successful vaccine for any Coronavirus.

Huh? They even have vaccines for corona virii in farm animals.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Ika posted:

Huh? They even have vaccines for corona virii in farm animals.

If I recall though, there's never been any workable ones for human Coronaviruses.

None for MERS, SARS was an awful failure, and none for the four that cause the common cold.

Like I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying I think the time frame for a vaccine is optimistic.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
They've got multiple antiviral drugs that reportedly shorten hospital stays. And not drugs Trump has a gut feeling about, ones that have passed clinical trials.

A GIANT PARSNIP
Apr 13, 2010

Too much fuckin' eggnog


Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

If I recall though, there's never been any workable ones for human Coronaviruses.

None for MERS, SARS was an awful failure, and none for the four that cause the common cold.

Like I'm not saying it's impossible I'm saying I think the time frame for a vaccine is optimistic.

No one makes a vaccine for the coronaviruses that cause the common cold because no one wants 4 vaccine shots in exchange for 15% less colds.

Evis
Feb 28, 2007
Flying Spaghetti Monster

There’s a serious risk that a coronavirus vaccine would have the vaccine enhancement effect. This makes the virus worse for those who have had the vaccine. There hasn’t been a successful vaccine developed for a new coronavirus in 20 years.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-insight-idUSKBN20Y1GZ

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Ika posted:

Huh? They even have vaccines for corona virii in farm animals.

viri. The singular isn't virius. But really it's viruses

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
This is probably complete lunacy and it's more of a thought exercise, but could you identify antibodies that infected people produced and then CRISPR the generation of those antibodies into everyone's immune systems?

goethe.cx
Apr 23, 2014


Krispy Wafer posted:

They've got multiple antiviral drugs that reportedly shorten hospital stays. And not drugs Trump has a gut feeling about, ones that have passed clinical trials.

Yeah remdesivir and favipravir seem promising, more so than chloroquine. If these are effective it would make the time until vaccine development a lot more bearable

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

I'm torn. Do I out PB on the top of the bread and Jam on the bottom or the other way around

the optimal method is peanut butter on both sides and jelly in the middle

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Vaccine for coronavirus? If you pour boiling Cooper into your sinuses it reduces the virus mortality rate to 0%

Sjs00
Jun 29, 2013

Yeah Baby Yeah !
Jacksonville FL is just now sending out alerts for people 65+ to stay indoors

ZenVulgarity
Oct 9, 2012

I made the hat by transforming my zen

https://www.live5news.com/2020/03/27/sc-attorney-general-says-local-governments-cannot-issue-stay-at-home-orders/

Lol what

TheAgent
Feb 16, 2002

The call is coming from inside Dr. House
Grimey Drawer
you can't *cough* take my freedom, just my life

*comical flatline plays*

shades of blue
Sep 27, 2012
well you see the governor doesnt believe a state wide order is necessary and the ag believes a county wide order isnt legal so really i think the solution is simple you just go to a hospital and watch the lungs of your loved ones fill with fluid until they suffocate

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Sampatrick posted:

well you see the governor doesnt believe a state wide order is necessary and the ag believes a county wide order isnt legal so really i think the solution is simple you just go to a hospital and watch the lungs of your loved ones fill with fluid until they suffocate

Actually their lungs will fill with fluid and they will die alone because they won't let you in

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Fojar38 posted:

Yeah and there almost certainly will be one, and the fact that Covid-19 apparently doesn't really mutate much (why would it, its current strategy is working great!) means that it will probably be effective for more than a season, but it'll be bouncing around the world and spreading in various communities around the world for decades, if not centuries to come.

We have nowhere nearly enough data to determine how frequently covid-19 mutates.

Cefte
Sep 18, 2004

tranquil consciousness
could you not block quote the verbally incontinent, tyvm

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

TheAgent posted:

you can't *cough* take my freedom, just my life

*comical flatline plays*

Thank gently caress the Chinese are getting better now, so they can make all the extra US flags needed for all the Freedom Economy Sacrifice Patriot Coffins .

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Small White Dragon
Nov 23, 2007

No relation.

Sjs00 posted:

Jacksonville FL is just now sending out alerts for people 65+ to stay indoors


State-wide actually

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