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Sandwolf posted:Okay that’s my fault for not tracing Toal’s role back to his day action. My bad. Also this post, which I should have just quoted to begin with, says he took a night action
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Mr. Steak posted:y'know what would be funny, is if ypm and bif are scum together, and one of them did the nightkill while using their shared rolecop claims to mask it Do you think we are scum?
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Apr 6, 2020 21:34
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Bifauxnen posted:Another thing that would be good for people to report, if they don't want to out the role but do trust the person they rolecopped... is to advise if your target should be using their action on towny people or scummy people. Oh, that's a good one. Bif, you should use yours on towny people, additionally, you'll need more words than just "action someone". I think I can let you figure that one out.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:35
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Your Personal Muse posted:Bolded section suggests he took a night action and assumed it didn’t work oh, now that im reading his actual post, that was clearly just an attempted action that was ignored by yami
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Apr 6, 2020 21:35
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Your Personal Muse posted:Also this post, which I should have just quoted to begin with, says he took a night action oh wait this post is weird. particularly the claim that he didnt receive a result for his day action, which is just.... literally impossible as far as im concerned
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Apr 6, 2020 21:37
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im still leaning towards sandwolf is just majorly confused
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Okay, so, uh, full disclosure first off when catching up after the day ended, I missed the post about their being a plan for rolecop stuff so I didn't cop ETR last night. That's entirely my bad. I did cop Bif though. This was mostly just for my own peace of mind, to be honest. Part of it is just like really confusing, and I'm not sure how it's supposed to work at all. If I'm understanding it correctly, then... Bifauxnen posted:Another thing that would be good for people to report, if they don't want to out the role but do trust the person they rolecopped... is to advise if your target should be using their action on towny people or scummy people. Right now, I'd absolutely recommend sticking to using it exclusively on Towny people. A bit more than just a target is recommended, but it's not necessary. I'm guessing that's so you can work out what it does.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:37
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AA, target scummy people. Or townie people. You're a rockin' role!
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Apr 6, 2020 21:37
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Sandwolf posted:Okay that’s my fault for not tracing Toal’s role back to his day action. My bad.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:38
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Your Personal Muse posted:Steak, that is not what Sand said. Yami responded. Why are you rushing to Sand’s defense and throwing shade at me and Bif im not rly throwing shade at y'all, just tossing out a possibility. for someone who was so adamant yesterday about words not constituting "pressure", this is a really funny reaction ngl
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Apr 6, 2020 21:40
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sigh, I wish I could post my chatlogs with Yami where I’m literally tryin to figure out what I even needed to..provide him with? In order to take certain actions? I “used” (never received confirmation) my day action yesterday on myself. Yami NEVER got back to me if this did anything or not. When the day ended, I spent a while trying to figure out what kinda actions I could take, because I didn’t even understand..like..what I should be inferring from no response to my day action. So I said to Yami “target YPM???” because I didn’t even know if I could be targeting, if I should be targeting, if I have a role, if that role is passive. I got back “g,” so I’m sorry I’m not appearing more helpful but I don’t get what’s going on with roles. Straight up. Bif I wasn’t sucking up to you as town and I don’t know where or what you’re getting that from considering I made 2-3 posts stating I was getting town vibes from you. I don’t understand what’s so scummy about making a town call?
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Apr 6, 2020 21:42
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also, im giving sandwolf the benefit of the doubt. i dont rly think i need more of a reason to not just pile onto his vote...?
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Sandwolf posted:sigh, I wish I could post my chatlogs with Yami where I’m literally tryin to figure out what I even needed to..provide him with? In order to take certain actions? I believe all of this and will not vote sandwolf.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:44
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Mr. Steak posted:im not rly throwing shade at y'all, just tossing out a possibility. I don’t really know what the pressure snipe is supposed to be. Mr. Steak posted:also, im giving sandwolf the benefit of the doubt. i dont rly think i need more of a reason to not just pile onto his vote...? Sure, of course. There’s a difference, though, between not piling on the votes and trying to give Sand an out before he even responds to the case.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:46
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alright, so the possibility of sandwolf being jailed doesnt exist anymore. also, its a little weird that sandwolf initially said explicitly that he "rolecopped" ypm but again; he's probably just confused and should **probably reread the OP**
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Apr 6, 2020 21:46
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idk what to make of sandy literally getting no response to his day action. sandwolf, did yami send nothing at all in your confessional between your wincon and the post of "g"?
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Apr 6, 2020 21:48
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Mr. Steak posted:idk what to make of sandy literally getting no response to his day action. specifically a one word response that may be a color
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Apr 6, 2020 21:51
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Mr. Steak posted:idk what to make of sandy literally getting no response to his day action. sigh I’ve gone back and reread all our chatlogs (there are a lot of Yami trying to explain without revealing what’s going on, recommended after game ends) and I did receive “red,” which I’m now supposed to understand means ..no day action? So I’m confused again, but I guess there’s confirmation I had no day action.
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Apr 6, 2020 21:52
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Man I know that seems scummy but I fuckin’ forgot one word “red” was my result
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Apr 6, 2020 21:53
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loving hell I maybe get it, the codeword codex is in everyone’s role PM?
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Apr 6, 2020 21:54
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Sandwolf posted:Man I know that seems scummy but I fuckin’ forgot one word “red” was my result One part I’m confused about and I apologize if you responded: did you submit both a rolecop and a regular action to yami? Or did you just try one thing?
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Apr 6, 2020 21:55
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Your Personal Muse posted:One part I’m confused about and I apologize if you responded: did you submit both a rolecop and a regular action to yami? Or did you just try one thing? I submitted both, not knowing which would work or which was active or relevant. I hadn’t pieced together I had no day action yet, so I figured if I did have a day action, the rolecop would work, and vice versa. I told him to: Target YPM, rolecop YPM I got back: “g”
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Apr 6, 2020 21:59
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Sandwolf posted:I “used” (never received confirmation) my day action yesterday on myself. Yami NEVER got back to me if this did anything or not. When the day ended, I spent a while trying to figure out what kinda actions I could take, because I didn’t even understand..like..what I should be inferring from no response to my day action. He didn't say anything to you at all? Didn't even just stall you by saying "Soon."?  You appear to have no night action though if that "g" result is the truth.
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Apr 6, 2020 22:00
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Sandwolf posted:I submitted both, not knowing which would work or which was active or relevant. I hadn’t pieced together I had no day action yet, so I figured if I did have a day action, the rolecop would work, and vice versa. Rolecopping is something everyone is guaranteed to have, it would give you either success or failure, not "g". But "Target YPM" isn't correct syntax. You'd have to "action" YPM to get a result of "invalid, you have no night action". It does sound like you could be trying to fudge things all right
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Apr 6, 2020 22:03
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Bifauxnen posted:He didn't say anything to you at all? Didn't even just stall you by saying "Soon."? from amni's PM i suppose? sandy must be entirely passive then
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Apr 6, 2020 22:03
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So I have no night action and no day action? great, still confused
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Apr 6, 2020 22:03
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Yami corrected me Bif that I should have said action not target, but how you knew that was correct syntax in advance I’m still confused by
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Apr 6, 2020 22:04
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Bifauxnen posted:Rolecopping is something everyone is guaranteed to have, it would give you either success or failure, not "g". And regardless of what this says, ALL I got back from Yami regarding N1 was “g”
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Apr 6, 2020 22:05
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Sandwolf posted:Yami corrected me Bif that I should have said action not target, but how you knew that was correct syntax in advance I’m still confused by read. the. OP.
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Apr 6, 2020 22:05
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Mr. Steak posted:read. the. OP. It’s a LITTLE LATE FOR THAT STEAK
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Apr 6, 2020 22:06
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Sandwolf posted:Yami corrected me Bif that I should have said action not target, but how you knew that was correct syntax in advance I’m still confused by OMFG  ok yup my vote is staying here for the foreseeable future, last time I faced off against a Scumwolf he was pulling just as much unbelievable "no way could you be messing up this bad" poo poo hahahaha
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Apr 6, 2020 22:06
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Bifauxnen posted:OMFG ...excuse me?? I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that this game was so straightforward to everyone else, legitimately. It’s confusing as gently caress to me when I give a night action and get back “g,” have to cross reference that with the NK’s PM, and then do a bunch of normal mafia thinking, simply to conclude that..I have a passive role? Despite being told to “action someone” at night?? Is NO ONE else confused)
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Apr 6, 2020 22:09
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FWIW I also submitted my night action using “target” I thought “action” pertained to the rolecop and “target” was for my actual role. The op doesn’t actually say to use “##rolecop” so that’s why I was confused
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Apr 6, 2020 22:10
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The OP doesn't say the exact syntax to use rolecop , but it does say the correct syntax to use actions, in bold, and this was also reinforced by nearly everyone using that correct syntax all day yesterday ffs.Sandwolf posted:...excuse me?? I’m sorry, I didn’t realize that this game was so straightforward to everyone else, legitimately. It’s confusing as gently caress to me when I give a night action and get back “g,” have to cross reference that with the NK’s PM, and then do a bunch of normal mafia thinking, simply to conclude that..I have a passive role? Despite being told to “action someone” at night?? Not reading the OP is believable. but going "What HOW COULD YOU KNOW THAT????" at me is kinda not, lol.
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Apr 6, 2020 22:15
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Bifauxnen posted:The OP doesn't say the exact syntax to use rolecop , but it does say the correct syntax to use actions, in bold, and this was also reinforced by nearly everyone using that correct syntax all day yesterday ffs. Including Sandwolf, btw! In fact, Sandwolf was an early adopter, using the correct syntax as only the third person to act in the whole game. almost as if he had been paying enough attention somehow to gather that much basic functionality.
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Apr 6, 2020 22:21
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Bifauxnen posted:The OP doesn't say the exact syntax to use rolecop , but it does say the correct syntax to use actions, in bold, and this was also reinforced by nearly everyone using that correct syntax all day yesterday ffs. Sigh, okay, that’s fair. There’s no way for me to prove my confusion, so I get it. But it kinda feels like.. why does me loving up syntax make me scum? The whole “Sandwolf feigning confusion” is probably a valid argument, if you feel that way, but I don’t think messing up the syntax of night actions makes me scummy.
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Apr 6, 2020 22:22
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Sandwolf posted:Sigh, okay, that’s fair. There’s no way for me to prove my confusion, so I get it. But it kinda feels like.. why does me loving up syntax make me scum? Exactly, it's about feigning confusion cause you apparently do know the syntax, ASAP from day open even:  But trying to convince you is a bit rude heh
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Bifauxnen posted:Including Sandwolf, btw! Yeah, absolutely, everyone using the same syntax in thread was a good indicator of what I should be saying. But I’m not on a team with people I can coordinate night actions with, I forgot the syntax at the beginning of the day, I made a mistake on it. Idk Yami figured it out? Isn’t that good enough?
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Apr 6, 2020 22:26
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b-minus1 posted:I received a “404” message. I’m guessing I was role blocked As its own thing, or in addition to either g or soon? I got "soon" and then an extra word back to tell me what my results are, but I don't know what it means.
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