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Somberbrero posted:It felt weird when AS asked for my flavor, like she was trying to force some kind of meaningful reaction. I don't think asking for flavour is weird in eccogames
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can we have words for how soda asked for flavor
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May 1, 2020 19:08
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Pinterest Mom posted:I don't think asking for flavour is weird in eccogames Can you expand on that thought, especially within the context of what differentiates flavor within an eccogame? Does my Miller status change anything within the context of soda asking for flavor? Would you have asked for flavor?
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May 1, 2020 19:15
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Gamerofthegame posted:can we have words for how soda asked for flavor I don't understand this sentence.
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May 1, 2020 19:16
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Somberbrero posted:Can you expand on that thought, especially within the context of what differentiates flavor within an eccogame? Does my Miller status change anything within the context of soda asking for flavor? Would you have asked for flavor? eccogames have a particular genre-flavour to them that i, personally, wouldn't be great at making up on the spot to match a false claim
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May 1, 2020 19:25
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Somberbrero posted:Can I ask what you're trying to accomplish with this dialog? Is it just posting for the sake of posting, or are you drawing larger inferences from the conversation? It feels like we pretty much agree so I'm not sure why we can't close this loop. Nothing specific, just poking at what little content there is to be poked at so far while I wait for something to ping me.
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May 1, 2020 19:36
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Pinterest Mom posted:eccogames have a particular genre-flavour to them that i, personally, wouldn't be great at making up on the spot to match a false claim Eccogames are flavored as gently caress.
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May 1, 2020 20:02
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Spoonsy posted:Eccogames are flavored as gently caress. flavored to perfection 
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May 1, 2020 20:23
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Easy on the breadcrumbing there
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May 1, 2020 20:26
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Pinterest Mom posted:eccogames have a particular genre-flavour to them that i, personally, wouldn't be great at making up on the spot to match a false claim I take the point, but I would argue that's less true of most games that aren't based in an existing property. If we're playing, say, Super Mario 2(aka Doki Doki Panic yes I know) Mafia, where all the villains are the town, as Mafia Luigi I'm going to be afraid to claim Clawgrip because that role might actually excuse. Here, it's like an outback steakhouse. I don't see how 'suspicious foreigner' is that much of a pull. I mean, off the top of my head, here are some flavor examples that could also work for Miller: Disgraced guardsman who was asleep at their post during unsociable Ducat antics and is suspected as a sympathizer Corrupt financier supplying aid to the Ducats for personal profit The owner of a small print shop that allows the production of Ducat literature in the name of free exchange of ideas
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May 1, 2020 20:27
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drat somber should write flavor for a game around the Duckists
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May 1, 2020 20:29
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Somberbrero posted:I take the point, but I would argue that's less true of most games that aren't based in an existing property. If we're playing, say, Super Mario 2(aka Doki Doki Panic yes I know) Mafia, where all the villains are the town, as Mafia Luigi I'm going to be afraid to claim Clawgrip because that flavor role might actually exist. Here, it's like an outback steakhouse. Mafia edit
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May 1, 2020 20:37
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Somberbrero posted:I take the point, but I would argue that's less true of most games that aren't based in an existing property. If we're playing, say, Super Mario 2(aka Doki Doki Panic yes I know) Mafia, where all the villains are the town, as Mafia Luigi I'm going to be afraid to claim Clawgrip because that role might actually excuse. Here, it's like an outback steakhouse. I dunno about that. Games where there's a high likelihood of invented fakeclaims duplicating a genuine role usually have mod-provided fakeclaims. Sometimes invented IP games do too, but not always. E.g. in my games I often tell the Scum what kind of roles they could likely get away with claiming, but let them concoct their own flavor... adds a skill element, as high-effort scum will come up with better flavor rationales than lazy scum. Don't think I've ever been scum in an Ecco game so I don't know if fakeclaims are the norm for her, but it doesn't say so in the OP, so it seems to me there's a non-zero chance that pressing someone for flavor could result in a scum-slip.
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May 1, 2020 20:43
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xopods posted:Don't think I've ever been scum in an Ecco game so I don't know if fakeclaims are the norm for her, but it doesn't say so in the OP, so it seems to me there's a non-zero chance that pressing someone for flavor could result in a scum-slip. I don't think I agree, but I understand where you're coming from. Do you think if everyone immediately claimed their flavor, we would catch more than one scum?
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May 1, 2020 20:55
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Somberbrero posted:I don't think I agree, but I understand where you're coming from. Depends on whether the Scum have fakeclaims or not and how detailed we demand everyone be... if there are no fakeclaims and we insist everyone go into so much detail that they're effectively paraphrasing the entire flavor portion of their PM even if not quoting it verbatim, then yes, there'd probably be one or more inconsistencies with other flavor or "un-Eccolike" detail that would give some Scum away. However, if the Scum do have fakeclaims it'd just make it easier for them to find power roles. More importantly, if we did it and it did break the setup and catch all the Scum, it'd ruin what's clearly been a lot of work for Ecco, and guarantee that in future, her and anyone else doing high-effort, high-flavor setups would need to include fully detailed fakeclaim flavor which would increase the workload and reduce the number of good setups we all get to play. But as a hypothetical, yes, a mass flavor claim would probably reveal some scum in a setup like this, if they don't have detailed fake identities.
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May 1, 2020 21:10
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Gamerofthegame posted:can we have words for how soda asked for flavor Hello, I also don’t understand this sentence, what do you mean here?
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May 1, 2020 21:12
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xopods posted:Depends on whether the Scum have fakeclaims or not and how detailed we demand everyone be... if there are no fakeclaims and we insist everyone go into so much detail that they're effectively paraphrasing the entire flavor portion of their PM even if not quoting it verbatim, then yes, there'd probably be one or more inconsistencies with other flavor or "un-Eccolike" detail that would give some Scum away. I appreciate the thoughtful response. I don't agree with your ultimate conclusion that a mass flavor claim would help identify scum. I believe I've illustrated that it's not that challenging to come up with a believable flavor profile on the spot, but maybe that's not a universal quality. We've gone pretty far off road though out into the badlands of this hypothetical exercise, so just to bring it back home, I found it a little suspicious that Soda didn't take the Miller claim at face value and felt the request for flavor to satisfy her suspicion rang false in part because of that. I was hoping that this conversation would garner more reactions from soda and others, but I didn't get much out of soda's non-commentary. I am a bit wary of those who spoke up during the discussion but didn't address any of the content, but maybe it's just not that interesting?
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May 1, 2020 21:34
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MisterJed posted:Hello, I also don’t understand this sentence, what do you mean here? because it's soda stop reading to deep in my bullshit
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May 1, 2020 22:03
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Hey I just technically completed my second year of law school so try not to expect too much from me today. I will be stoned out my gourd and probably a fair bit drunk later. Will be down to clown tomorrow (May 2nd, not D2)
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May 1, 2020 22:08
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I’ve heard that mass role claims usually have good results 
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May 1, 2020 22:11
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Gamerofthegame posted:because No like the actual parsing, can you rephrase?
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May 1, 2020 22:25
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Sandwolf posted:Hey I just technically completed my second year of law school so try not to expect too much from me today. I will be stoned out my gourd and probably a fair bit drunk later. Congrats! I remember those days.
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May 1, 2020 22:52
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Yikes, are there a lot of lawyers or law students playing mafia? It makes sense, this is about argument and persuasion
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May 1, 2020 23:05
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Isn't YPM one too?
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May 1, 2020 23:06
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MisterJed posted:Yikes, are there a lot of lawyers or law students playing mafia? It makes sense, this is about argument and persuasion I’m a nurse.
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May 1, 2020 23:13
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Ixtlilton posted:Isn't YPM one too? He just won a game as scum and successfully lead the charge to execute me near the end. L*nch all lawyers
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May 1, 2020 23:18
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MisterJed posted:He just won a game as scum and successfully lead the charge to execute me near the end. L*nch all lawyers Okay Dick the Butcher 
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May 1, 2020 23:24
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Somber, the foreigner is a recurring character in ecco games. You're basically confirmed town at this point, and scum would be a fool not to night kill you tonight.
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May 1, 2020 23:29
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Other than that I am doing well. I am living on a farm and living a humble farm life with less than 1mbs down, it isn't much but I find simple pleasures.
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May 1, 2020 23:30
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Toalpaz posted:Other than that I am doing well. I am living on a farm and living a humble farm life with less than 1mbs down, it isn't much but I find simple pleasures. That sounds lovely. I used to have a distaste for farm life, as my grandparents are dairy farmers and it seems by turns miserable and bleak, but as time goes on I find myself more and more wanting some kind of retreat to nature. I wonder if I would write more in that environment. I'm glad to hear that you are well. Good luck to you this sowing season, may your crops and your person both be healthy come Autumn.
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May 1, 2020 23:43
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MisterJed posted:He just won a game as scum and successfully lead the charge to execute me near the end. L*nch all lawyers Jed! continuing to prove his intuitive ability as a mafia player
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May 1, 2020 23:47
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Toalpaz posted:Somber, the foreigner is a recurring character in ecco games. You're basically confirmed town at this point, and scum would be a fool not to night kill you tonight. wow bad post
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May 1, 2020 23:52
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Pinterest Mom posted:wow bad post Very odd. And somber’s posting doesn’t seem particularly townie after a Miller claim. I will explain soon.
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Sandwolf posted:Jed! continuing to prove his intuitive ability as a mafia player I don’t think I’ve said this yet but I appreciate the Jed! Stuff. Once I actually win a game I need to make a version of that Jeb! Meme where he wins all 50 states, but with Phil Hellmuths face. Also congrats on getting through year 2 of law school
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May 2, 2020 00:03
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Somber seems like town
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May 2, 2020 00:14
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MisterJed posted:I don’t think I’ve said this yet but I appreciate the Jed! Stuff. Once I actually win a game I need to make a version of that Jeb! Meme where he wins all 50 states, but with Phil Hellmuths face. Also congrats on getting through year 2 of law school god I want that image to exist so bad
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May 2, 2020 00:14
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Pinterest Mom posted:wow bad post Can you vocalize what's bad that post? I thought my friend Toalpaz was just being silly.
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May 2, 2020 00:19
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Lol Lots of lawyers
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May 2, 2020 00:23
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b-minus1 posted:Lol IANAL
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Yes I follow r\legaladvice
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